Avengers: Age Of Ultron - Official Thread *Spoilers*

[AnonymityX1000]

did you forget about the winter soldier being controlled by robert redford.... who was a secret agent of hydra... and then taking over all the gunships and all of shield... with hydra soldiers?

Winter soldier was merely a goon,who had his brain reprogrammed constantly. He was a tool of hydra and wouldnt be in the film if not for being used by hydra to carry out their orders.

Saying they werent the main villain in winter soldier is inaccurate. Winter soldier was basically a faceless,brainless robot doing hydras bidding. Obviously its deeper than that because its bucky but hydra was the villain.

We really dont know enough about the 3rd film but other posters in this thread just said its confirmed hydra is the villain again

OK and WS is still one of the best MCU movies despite repeating with Hydra. As long as you make a good movie does it really matter? I don't think so.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

OK and WS is still one of the best MCU movies despite repeating with Hydra. As long as you make a good movie does it really matter? I don't think so.

And one of the things that made it that was the relative surprise of hydra popping back up as a formidable force. If they repeat the same basic shyt,its now a formula and its never as good as it was before. Age of Ultron has diminished their standing to chumps and to go back to them again for a 3rd straight film wouldnt make it a good film. It would make it boring as shyt.

 

[Jazzy B.]

Well, I never brought up joker in the first place so Im not going to debate about the difference because it was a silly comparison in the first place and made no sense to me.

But if the difference in hydra is evil businessman #2 and evil businessman #3 and so on, I think they can do better than that.

They need to start treating their villains with the same respect they treat the heros with. It would just be extremely boring and dissapointingly safe if civil war is just another "gotcha it was us hydra all along!" Climax like winter soldier.

And to be clear I liked that part of winter soldier. I thought it was pulled off very nicely. I didnt like them being wiped out in 5 minutes in age of ultron because its like well,i guess they werent an actual threat then. And to hear them going back to the well so soon is just sad to hear. If that is indeed what happens in civil war. Im going off what others have said in this thread if you look back I thought their was no way theyd do that.

This is the conclusion to this Captain America trilogy, how could you think they wouldn't be in the movie?. Captain America and Winter Soldier were created because of Hydra. One to fight Hydra, one to fight for Hydra. This is the movie where it comes full-circle and concludes it, it's why the previous film ended on a cliffhangar regarding Winter Soldier and Hydra. Seeing how the movie heavily revolves around Bucky, I'm guessing their part will be to take him back.

The main antagonist to Captain America in this movie is Iron Man, his Avengers, General Ross and law enforcement, not Hydra. They do not need to be a big and uber, they simply need to be resurgent with the knowledge and danger of what they've done in previous movies being taken into account.

They are not going to hide that Hydra are in the film like the last one. Robert Redford was never stated to be playing a villain prior to WS's release and was presented as an ambiguous character in marketing and the first 3/4 of the movie. Meanwhile they outright stated that Zemo would be a new and arising threat in the synopsis.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

And one of the things that made it that was the relative surprise of hydra popping back up as a formidable force. If they repeat the same basic shyt,its now a formula and its never as good as it was before. Age of Ultron has diminished their standing to chumps and to go back to them again for a 3rd straight film wouldnt make it a good film. It would make it boring as shyt.

How is it a formula if it was front and center in the first movie and a secret in the second? It's different but using the same villain. Is every episode of the Simpson's featuring Sideshow Bob trying to kill Bart wack after the second one because it is the same premise? Of course not.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

How is it a formula if it was front and center in the first movie and a secret in the second? It's different but using the same villain. Is every episode of the Simpson's featuring Sideshow Bob trying to kill Bart wack after the second one because it is the same premise? Of course not.

Well yeah, I do think almost every episode of sideshow coming back was wack. It got less funny every single time.

3 films all with the same villain is the same formula,the marketing of the film isnt that important.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

This is the conclusion to this Captain America trilogy, how could you think they wouldn't be in the movie?. Captain America and Winter Soldier were created because of Hydra. One to fight Hydra, one to fight for Hydra. This is the movie where it comes full-circle and concludes it, it's why the previous film ended on a cliffhangar regarding Winter Soldier and Hydra. Seeing how the movie heavily revolves around Bucky, I'm guessing their part will be to take him back.

The main antagonist to Captain America in this movie is Iron Man, his Avengers, General Ross and law enforcement, not Hydra. They do not need to be a big and uber, they simply need to be resurgent with the knowledge and danger of what they've done in previous movies being taken into account.

They are not going to hide that Hydra are in the film like the last one. Robert Redford was never stated to be playing a villain prior to WS's release and was presented as an ambiguous character in marketing and the first 3/4 of the movie. Meanwhile they outright stated that Zemo would be a new and arising threat in the synopsis.

The movie is called civil war and is about the registration act. Hydra had nothing to do with the registration act so why would anybody assume its about hydra yet again?

This is basically an avengers film with the amount of characters. And again,hydra poses absolutely no threat so why would we be forced to witness them yet again to just over stuff the plot? Its silly and asinine at this point.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Well yeah, I do think almost every episode of sideshow coming back was wack. It got less funny every single time.

3 films all with the same villain is the same formula,the marketing of the film isnt that important.

Whatever don't see it then. Somehow you won't be able to resist I bet.

 

[Jazzy B.]

The movie is called civil war and is about the registration act. Hydra had nothing to do with the registration act so why would anybody assume its about hydra yet again?

This is basically an avengers film with the amount of characters. And again,hydra poses absolutely no threat so why would we be forced to witness them yet again to just over stuff the plot? Its silly and asinine at this point.

I just told you why in the previous post, read it again.

It's an "Avengers film not a Captain America movie", but then you're dumbfounded as to why Captain America's main villain group and second arch-villain are in it as the main villains

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

I just told you why in the previous post, read it again.

It's an "Avengers film not a Captain America movie", but then you're dumbfounded as to why Captain America's main villain group and second arch-villain are in it as the main villains

Im "dumb founded" that they would have that poor of writing,sure. Youre excustng them reusing the same villain over and over and over and acting like people shouldnt call it out. Its bad writing. No other comic films use the same damn villain for every film and for good reason. Its fukkin dumb

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Whatever don't see it then. Somehow you won't be able to resist I bet.

I still havent even watched ant man the mcu films are low priority for me. Ill watch it when its free on canadian netflix sure.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I still havent even watched ant man the mcu films are low priority for me. Ill watch it when its free on canadian netflix sure.

Watched it for free last night not bad, not great. perfectly fine flick. but nothing I'd tell you to run out and see immediately

 

[Jazzy B.]

Im "dumb founded" that they would have that poor of writing,sure. Youre excustng them reusing the same villain over and over and over and acting like people shouldnt call it out. Its bad writing. No other comic films use the same damn villain for every film and for good reason. Its fukkin dumb

Excusing? when the movie will be the conclusion to the trilogy and Captain America's, Winter Soldier's and Hydras storyline.

You seem to be the only one who actually thought that Hydra wouldn't be in the sequel despite Winter Soldier ending on a clear cliffhanger in regards to them and Bucky which says you didn't watch the movie properly. They're not going to be serving as the main antagonists in Civil War like the last two anyway. It's Iron Man, his Avengers, General Ross and Law Enforcement whilst they take advantage of that situation and rebuild in the background.

You constantly complain about Marvel not showing enough respect to their villains but are now complaining about them doing so to the only villainous antagonists that they've decided to keep around and develop in the films after Loki

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Excusing? when the movie will be the conclusion to the trilogy and Captain America's, Winter Soldier's and Hydras storyline.

You seem to be the only one who actually thought that Hydra wouldn't be in the sequel despite Winter Soldier ending on a clear cliffhanger in regards to them and Bucky which says you didn't watch the movie properly. They're not going to be serving as the main antagonists in Civil War like the last two anyway. It's Iron Man, his Avengers, General Ross and Law Enforcement whilst they take advantage of that situation and rebuild in the background.

You constantly complain about Marvel not showing enough respect to their villains but are now complaining about them doing so to the only villainous antagonists that they've decided to keep around and develop in the films after Loki

Theyve developed them how? By having them show up again and again just to be quickly dispatched with little effort? What great development. Winter soldier ending with them going to look for bucky and a mid credits scene showing them about to unleash quiksilver and scarlett. How is that a cliffhanger in regards to hydra when at the beginning of ultron they defeated hydra in less than 5 minutes. What a cliffhanger! I wonder what character will show next in hydra only to be defeated in 5 minutes. Im on the edge of my seat! I cant wait until that huge cliffhanger of them being mollywhopped with no effort is shown again. Quisilver is dead and scarlett witch is an avenger. Their is no cliffhanger except findining bucky whos seen not being a part of hydra any longer and is clearly working with cap in the third film,.

Pull your skirt down and lay off marvels dikk bruh they dont care about you

You marvel stans will do mental gymnastics to justify everything they do and in the same breath crucify any other studio for not picking the appropriate shade of color on a characters outfit

Cap has other villains. Not every story has to revolve around hydra. Their is literally nothing interesting about hydra in the mcu. Might as well bring back the chitauri and ultron too only to be quickly defeated. If thats your version of treating villains with respect and developing them then

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Watched it for free last night not bad, not great. perfectly fine flick. but nothing I'd tell you to run out and see immediately

Any interest I had died when they forced edgar wright out of his own project. of all the mcu films Ive literally only paid money/gone to the theatre to see 2 of them. The rest I watch on netflix or the movie network here. Im not paying money to support mediocrity.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Any interest I had died when they forced edgar wright out of his own project. of all the mcu films Ive literally only paid money/gone to the theatre to see 2 of them. The rest I watch on netflix or the movie network here. Im not paying money to support mediocrity.

Oh I agree. He was the draw for me. Which is I why I watched if for free