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I swear this comes up every now and then on some "Without religion there are no morals" bs.

First, let's the obvious out of the way: Religion itself doesn't follow its own set of morals. Thou shalt not kill was thrown in the bushes long time ago :birdman:

Second, some of those morals are just common sense breh, you don't need religion to know that you should "Honor thy Father and Mother", "Not Steal" or "Commit adultery". Those are basic rules to live in any society lest you be ostracized.

Matter of fact I'll go as far as say that religion inspired itself from pre-existing morals in order to assert itself and gain power. Would've been counter-productive otherwise.

Brehs talkmbout "You don't kill because you learned morality from religion" :aicmon:
The Bible says that GOD wrote the commandments on our hearts (morals) so even if you weren't brought up in church they are still there and that's why it's common sense.
 

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The Bible says that GOD wrote the commandments on our hearts (morals) so even if you weren't brought up in church they are still there and that's why it's common sense.

was that before or after he wrote them in stone?

 
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Shame you demons cant give credit where credit is do. Credit to the work of Moses and God for shaping your morality. You really think you came to your conclusions out of thin air. The arrogance is sickening.
 

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it's sand and rocks breh

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Ah, if the Bible says so it must be right then.

Well, If you feel you need to make simple things a philisophical debate everytime do you. GOD Told you it's wrong to steal,kill (and common sense would tell you he meant murder of another human being,that was for another poster) etc etc. If you feel that wasn't simple enough for you :manny:
 

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Since we're talking about morals and dolphins, I thought this might be interesting.....

Miriam Goldstein said:
It never fails. Every single cocktail party, as soon as someone finds out that I'm a graduate student studying marine biology, they ask, "So, do you get to play with dolphins?" Since my heart is as black and cold as the oceanic abyss, I usually take this opportunity to disillusion yet another poor soul of their childhood fantasy of Mystical Dolphin Love .

Dolphins are not gentle or psychic. If they could talk they would not impart eco-wisdom or deep spiritual truth. Dolphins are violent predators with a predilection for baby killing and rape. I feel it's my duty to warn you, despite the risk of insulting creatures made of hundreds of pounds of muscle and rows of sharp teeth. Throw out your rainbow dolphin painting , and check out dolphins' low-down dirty secrets:

--Dolphin sex can be violent and coercive. Gangs of two or three male bottlenose dolphins isolate a single female from the pod and forcibly mate with her, sometimes for weeks at a time. To keep her in line, they make aggressive noises, threatening movements, and even smack her around with their tails. And if she tries to swim away, they chase her down. Horny dolphins have also been known to target human swimmers -Demi Moore is rumored to have had a close encounter of the finny kind.

--Dolphins kill harbor porpoise babies. In Scotland, scientists found baby harbor porpoises washed up with horrific internal injuries. They thought the porpoises might have been killed by weapons tests until they found the toothmarks. Later, dolphins were caught on film pulping the baby porpoises-the dolphins even used their ecolocation to aim their blow at the porpoises' vital organs.

--Dolphins kill their own babies. Baby dolphins have washed up alongside the dead porpoises, and some scientists think that all the porpoise-slaughter was just practice for some old-fashioned infanticide . For other mammals like lions, killing the babies makes the females immediately ready for the next pregnancy, and maybe that's the case with dolphins, too.

The scariest part is dolphins can wreak havoc day and night without sleeping. A recent study found that dolphins could stay awake for five days straight with no loss of mental acuity. The dolphins didn't even need to make up sleep at the end of the study, though the scientists sure did.

If the dolphins ever evolve thumbs , we're in trouble. It will be like a slasher-film remake of Douglas Adams' So Long And Thanks for All The Fish. If I wash up with pulped innards and dolphin tooth marks, you'll know why. After all, you never hear about the people the dolphins push out to sea.
 
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