Athiests & Firm Believers In Evolution....Come Hither

[Berniewood Hogan]

well some "gods" do so some dont so yes depending on what that individual believes is right or believes is wrong but chooses to follow that isnt really getting to the topic at hand here

YOU WOULD RAPE SOMEBODY IF A VOICE IN YOUR HEAD TOLD YOU TO?

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

I disagree. Morals have more to do with ones relationship with the rest of the world, not just their opinion or likes/dislikes. If what your saying is true that would mean things like going to the gym or eating tacos is part of a persons moral code

i agree it has to do with the rest of the world but the lines between what is really something good to do and what is seemingly the "better" thing to do in a situation even though its a matter of opinion/choice and what is really wrong to do seem to be subjective and not concrete

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

YOU WOULD RAPE SOMEBODY IF A VOICE IN YOUR HEAD TOLD YOU TO?

no but i know you would wrestle in tighty whiteys if it made your family rich and turned your daughter into a whore wrestler

your set of morals are now exposed like your mangina no homo

 

[daze23]

How old is religion? Has there ever been a time when humans didn't believe in a power or powers greater than themselves?

well that's a tricky question. especially in the context of religions that say God created man from 'scratch'

but my point was that the major religions have some sort of starting point. Moses and the burning bush I guess is an obvious one. it seems a big part of the 10 Commandments was to establish these 'rules'. so were the 'morals' before that 'imperfect', and what was their origin?

 

[Fillerguy]

thread title is sexually suggestive

 

[daze23]

your dog wont bite the hand that feeds him obviously less to do with morals and more to do with surviving as usual

well i would argue this is all about "survival". specifically the methods of survival for social creatures. we have social groups that thrive through cooperation

 

[daze23]

Okay what does evolution have to do with the question in the OP? Evolution describes what happened it doesn't tell us how to behave

I think the question is if evolutionary psychology can explain these behaviors

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

no

YOU SAID YES ON THE FIRST PAGE, BROTHER!

 

[mbewane]

We aren't. O/P is.



Yes, you're prejudiced against all religious people due to the actions/behavior of a small percentage.​

Beloved, please stop understanding what I'm saying "by omission" and then assuming some bullshyt. Nothing I posted shows that I'm prejudiced against religious persons. My sister is extremely religious and I have this discussion with her every now and then. You don't know shyt about me, so don't assume shyt.

you dont murder because you dont have to but back then? back then friend they were living in the woods with no internet or widescreen tvs with mini fridges next to them

So do you really think they were just killing each other because...because what exactly? They weren't killing each other mindlessly in the same village for example because common sense says that you're stronger as a group, and it is better to build on trust. So yes, survival (as in common sense) led to "morals", which, IMO, is nothing more than "rules of conduct in society".

 

[Broke Wave]

I'm a theist and a firm believer in SCIENCE. Evolution/Natural Selection is observed SCIENCE. It's something you can see with your eyes. How can I deny something I can see with both my senses and my reason?

 

[the cac mamba]

because humans are intelligent, and morals come from reason

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Morals as math:

Ten people live on an island:

Ten thieves starve to death because there's nothing to steal. No one's working.

Takes 9 people working to support one thief.

Zero thieves works even better.

Therefore: stealing is "wrong". Doesn't work for the majority of people.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Beloved, please stop understanding what I'm saying "by omission" and then assuming some bullshyt. Nothing I posted shows that I'm prejudiced against religious persons. My sister is extremely religious and I have this discussion with her every now and then. You don't know shyt about me, so don't assume shyt.

Well, considering you didn't list any non-religious people who are hypocritical or any conflicts that weren't religiously motivated, I commented on what you did post. Thank you for clarifying your position.
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[CouldntBeMeTho]

The idea that morals comes from religion is not true. The bible is filled with terrible morals. According to the bible

-women are not allowed to speak in church
-homosexual males are to be killed
-slavery is justified, including selling your daughter as a sex slave
-killing your own children for disrespecting you
-killing someone for gathering sticks in the woods on sunday (wtf)


thats just the beginning. here's a interesting "demonic" site

Evil Bible Home Page

"In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered."

IDK how accurate that body count is, but that is the wet dreams of Rambo. AKA the god of the bible. that i hear so many claim to derive morals from.

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

So do you really think they were just killing each other because...because what exactly? They weren't killing each other mindlessly in the same village for example because common sense says that you're stronger as a group, and it is better to build on trust. So yes, survival (as in common sense) led to "morals", which, IMO, is nothing more than "rules of conduct in society".

they killed eachother only when completely neccisary for survival its not a difficult concept to grasp but it doesnt seem to be that your arguing against that you just feel as though survival leads to all morals? also trust is pretty vague here when it is just an assurance of something

but i dont see how when other living things like dolphins are completely built around group effort to survive and they arent coming up with morals like "only dolphins that are 18 years or older are adults and should be having sex" and "bury the dead dolphins out of respect for raising you" but these are common rules of conduct in most societies today of the human species and havent they been around longer? according to evolution

The idea that morals comes from religion is not true. The bible is filled with terrible morals. According to the bible

-women are not allowed to speak in church
-homosexual males are to be killed
-slavery is justified, including selling your daughter as a sex slave
-killing your own children for disrespecting you
-killing someone for gathering sticks in the woods on sunday (wtf)


thats just the beginning. here's a interesting "demonic" site

Evil Bible Home Page

"In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered."

IDK how accurate that body count is, but that is the wet dreams of Rambo. AKA the god of the bible. that i hear so many claim to derive morals from.

so basically your saying because you dont agree with all the morals in the bible that morals dont come from religion? ok well that isnt really proving or disproving anything so that is a weak arguement