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the better question is, why arent funerals full of christians laughing and celebrating :patrice:

i mean of course the answer is deep down you know that your relative is dead, gone, and in the ground forever.

but lets enteratin your bullshyt: shouldnt you be HAPPY that your relative is going to a magical paradise kingdom in the sky? selfish motherfukkers :heh:
They are there mainly to celebrate the persons life... not mainly to morn the death. That's the reason there is food and a lil party set up afterward...

That's how the Christians do it...
and yes, they know that the physical body will turn white n purple and cells will pop like pimples and the earth will add u to it's composition.

but u know that we can't really explain where the actual life force comes from...or how random matter produces consciousness - So it seems weird to be absolutely certain that life completely stops w a physical death.
 

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but u know that we can't really explain where the actual life force comes from...or how random matter produces consciousness - So it seems weird to be absolutely certain that life completely stops w a physical death.
excellent point. as far as the underlined, plenty of bibles, qurans and other fables out there would certainly disagree with you :ehh:
 

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excellent point. as far as the underlined, plenty of bibles, qurans and other fables out there would certainly disagree with you :ehh:
well you know....

one can assume that nikkas in ancient times may have been a lil clueless about a few things....

Think of the Torah like the constitution.. It's a living document. more of a life guide... not something that will help u pass the last year of med school.

my boy is in graduate school right now for some medical shyt at wayne... when ur muslim workin in some of these areas taking classes n shyt... Let's just say u struggle initially then justify to make the grades.. try getting certain degrees by questioning macro evolution.
We all know that ancient books nor academic science has all the answers.
 

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well you know....

one can assume that nikkas in ancient times may have been a lil clueless about a few things....

Think of the Torah like the constitution.. It's a living document. more of a life guide... not something that will help u pass the last year of med school.

my boy is in graduate school right now for some medical shyt at wayne... when ur muslim workin in some of these areas taking classes n shyt... Let's just say u struggle initially then justify to make the grades.. try getting certain degrees by questioning macro evolution.
We all know that ancient books nor academic science has all the answers.
my problem is with people who claim that ancient books are infallible and have all the answers. i agree with everything u just sed tho :heh:
 

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Are they necessary according to atheistic views of life and death? Is a wake more appropriate (gathering of friends and family) than the ceremonial aspect of laying a person to rest (prayers, decorating the body)? What is the preferred method? Cremation? Burial? Donation to science?

I see a funeral as way of honoring the departed final wishes and showing your status and or love for them by how close you follow it. For me when I die my wishes are to be cremated and then my friends and family have a party in my honor. I guess something close to a Irish wake.
 

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Japan, but from the 989
I've been to a couple different types of funerals. Super Religious, N.O. Style funeral, Japanese funeral, a farewell party (which was a party where the dead body was at the front while people drank...creepy as fukk)...but speaking as a religious free agent, I think funerals are needed. For one....they bring everyone together. And it's always good to remember the person who died. What happens in the next part of their journey is known only to them.
 
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They are absolutely necessary
it is really hard to explain
but I will try
it is a gesture
of humanistic respect
of existential empathy and sympathy
it is the artful way of living in the great eternal mystery that is life
That's sounds like RELIGION to me...Do you have any SCIENTIFIC evidence to support those assertions...?
 
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I see a funeral as way of honoring the departed final wishes and showing your status and or love for them by how close you follow it. For me when I die my wishes are to be cremated and then my friends and family have a party in my honor. I guess something close to a Irish wake.
Sounds like RELIGION to me...

Do you have any SCIENTIFIC evidence that support your perspective...?
 
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which assertion? I made several
The ones that I quoted in when I replied to your statements...

Every human being has a religion...That's what separates us from other animals...

I work as a physiotherapist in a hospitals and long term care facilities...I have seen staunch atheist still "fighting" even with terminal prognosis...And I ask myself, if you honestly believed you were just another animal no different than a fly, then why would you "fight"....?

If your family/friend is sick, and a doctor tells you there is a treatment that is effective only 25% of the time...You will accept that treatment because you have "faith" that your family/friend will be one of the 25% of the time that treatment works...
 

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The ones that I quoted in when I replied to your statements...

Every human being has a religion...That's what separates us from other animals...

I work as a physiotherapist in a hospitals and long term care facilities...I have seen staunch atheist still "fighting" even with terminal prognosis...And I ask myself, if you honestly believed you were just another animal no different than a fly, then why would you "fight"....?

If your family/friend is sick, and a doctor tells you there is a treatment that is effective only 25% of the time...You will accept that treatment because you have "faith" that your family/friend will be one of the 25% of the time that treatment works...
:comeon:
And yes, people want to survive; even atheists.
 
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:comeon:
And yes, people want to survive; even atheists.
Every human being has a religion...

What is love...? That's not SCIENCE...Love doesn't exist biologically...But it's funny how "love" is not attacked everyday and banned, considering that there is NO scientific proof that exists...

(1) We have physical attraction which can lead to lust...There is scientific evidence of this...You know it exists when a woman's nipples get hard and her vagina gets wet, and a man's penis gets hard...

(2) We have emotional attachment that comes from just living and existing with somebody...\some people who were kidnapped become attached to the kidnapper, some people go to jail and become attached to the environment...They even fall "in love" even though they never though of themselves as being gay...

So, what is love exactly, and where is the SCIENTIFIC proof that exists...?

Can you OBJECTIVELY prove that love exists...?
 

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Not all ceremonies are religious brehs, I said it once and I'll said again, bodies were being disposed of/buried before religions.I'm sure some religious people think atheists/agnostics would rather have the cadavers lying around :russ:
 
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