If thats what u got from the OP...
then... I fear for u
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im talking about the original post. this is your question. how can u say im far off? that IS what u are saying.
Religion/Spirituality Atheism Discussion
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im talking about the original post. this is your question. how can u say im far off? that IS what u are saying.
im talking about the original post. this is your question. how can u say im far off? that IS what u are saying.
You said that OP implied that an atheist wouldnt know from right and wrong
But what the OP is actually is saying is that based on the naturalistic worldview
Things like right and wrong good and evil are mere illusory constructs and that there lacks a transcendant barometer due to the claims of the naturalistic worldview, to exist an objective morality.
So in actuallity im saying that
An atheist that believes in right and wrong is holding on to a belief that is not consistent to the worldview he claims to have
You said that OP implied that an atheist wouldnt know from right and wrong
But what the OP is actually is saying is that based on the naturalistic worldview
Things like right and wrong good and evil are mere illusory constructs and that there lacks a transcendant barometer due to the claims of the naturalistic worldview, to exist an objective morality.
So in actuallity im saying that
An atheist that believes in right and wrong is holding on to a belief that is not consistent to the worldview he claims to have
i see what u are saying. dont really have an intelligent retort.
all i can say is personally i believe all religions are bs, but ive always said that the truth about the universe lies in the things that all religions have in common. just a few basic ideas. like do unto others, honor thy mother and father, dont lie kill or steal.
there IS something to religion, but people cling to that 99% of it that is pure bullshyt and make it hard to respect because that 99% of it is what causes war and destruction and just alot of plain evil in the name of god.
so religion isnt a good barometer for morality either. it basically comes down to karma to me
"what goes around comes around" is what keeps me in line.
i see what u are saying. dont really have an intelligent retort.
all i can say is personally i believe all religions are bs, but ive always said that the truth about the universe lies in the things that all religions have in common. just a few basic ideas. like do unto others, honor thy mother and father, dont lie kill or steal.
there IS something to religion, but people cling to that 99% of it that is pure bullshyt and make it hard to respect because that 99% of it is what causes war and destruction and just alot of plain evil in the name of god.
so religion isnt a good barometer for morality either. it basically comes down to karma to me
"what goes around comes around" is what keeps me in line.
Ayyye breh I can respect it
U kept it a hunnid
You said that OP implied that an atheist wouldnt know from right and wrong
But what the OP is actually is saying is that based on the naturalistic worldview
Things like right and wrong good and evil are mere illusory constructs and that there lacks a transcendant barometer due to the claims of the naturalistic worldview, to exist an objective morality.
So in actuallity im saying that
An atheist that believes in right and wrong is holding on to a belief that is not consistent to the worldview he claims to have
you're talking about social constructs breh. religions themselves are social constructs, but they're not the only ones that exist, it seems like you're making them it out to be that way though. like if person doesn't believe in a particular god or religion, then they have no ties to social constructs of any kind or are somehow contradicting themselves. believing something is 'good' or 'bad' isn't anywhere near the same as claiming that belief as "objective morality"-- it just doesn't exist, even in a world with religion. jadillac pointed that out.
Glad I got your attention!
So atheists, do you all believe in the idea that your thoughts create the reality in which you live? In other words, do you guys believe that your thoughts, positive or negative, draw into your existence the type of experiences you will have in your life?
What say you, atheists?
So atheists, do you all believe in the idea that your thoughts create the reality in which you live? In other words, do you guys believe that your thoughts, positive or negative, draw into your existence the type of experiences you will have in your life?
What say you, atheists?
Don't know what this has to do with atheism, but ... yeah, sure, positive thoughts can have a tangible effect on how one performs certain tasks. However, there is an objective reality ... you can't positive think your way to flying after jumping off a building. That's just silly.
How do you know if you don't at least try?
...... Are you trying to get atheists to commit mass suicide?
Oh no. You can't kill an idea, and I like free will to believe what you want.
I'm an atheist in a way myself. I believe I am God, and that all of us humans are all God, just in many different expressions. About 7 billion to be exact.
Well if everyone's god... then how can you not believe in gods. Surely you believe you exist, right?
It creates the reality in so far as I perceive it. Like if it rains on the positive side I can think good we need water. On the negative it means slower traffic and I am getting wet.
What you're talking about is Solipsism and I'm not sure a true Atheist adopts that philosophy.
I'm Agnostic and I think it's bull.
Chris Mauro
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