Religion/Spirituality Atheism and the black community...good read

[Mr. Negative]

As a matter of fact when he unfolded the scroll he rapped about in "Verbal Intercourse" it had me listed as the anti-naS

I rebuke you.

 

[Snitchin Splatter]

I didn't say anything about "accountability". I said it's funny how some people assume we should know nothing/they know more about the Bible simply because we don't go to church.

so we supposed to sit here and act like you didn't say this less than a page ago

I said the church doesn't foster or promote accountability to anything other than it's interpretation of what God wants, and it chalks up situations that aren't easily explainable or tackleable (I just made up a word) to God's will. Accountability is not an action, it's a state of knowing and understanding the assumed responsibility of your actions.

EDIT: So I see y'all bringing that voodoo shenanigans in here now

 

[Mr. Negative]

so we supposed to sit here and act like you didn't say this less than a page ago

uh.... you okay, breh?

 

[Snitchin Splatter]

uh.... you okay, breh?

damn you did say that

hmm when i multi quote it did some atheist satanic voodoo

 

[intilectual recipricol]

So you're saying what's in your bible isn't what's being taught in your church?

If they actually did teach what was in the bible, I woulda been outta that beech earlier than I did. Ida been like "Why is this nicca yahweh slaughterin all these people and telling them to rape their young daughters" "Why should a rape victim marry the rapist and the pappy be paid 50 pieces of silver" "the hell is this nicca jesus comin back with a sword in his mouth for when we got machine guns" "why did jesus stop the woman from selling the perfume to give the money to the poor just so she would use the perfume on him" "why is yahweh murdering 42 kids with she bears for makin fun of ol buddy's bald head"

There is a reason they hand out pamphlets and booklets of the shyt they want you to read, because they dont want you to get to the other stuff, which is the majority of the book. Imagine if in the black church they actually taught that yahweh gave the rules for slavery... niccaz'll be lookin at the double doors like

 

[Mr. Negative]

so we supposed to sit here and act like you didn't say this less than a page ago



EDIT: So I see y'all bringing that voodoo shenanigans in here now

 

[TrueEpic08]

If they actually did teach what was in the bible, I woulda been outta that beech earlier than I did. Ida been like "Why is this nicca yahweh slaughterin all these people and telling them to rape their young daughters" "Why should a rape victim marry the rapist and the pappy be paid 50 pieces of silver" "the hell is this nicca jesus comin back with a sword in his mouth for when we got machine guns" "why did jesus stop the woman from selling the perfume to give the money to the poor just so she would use the perfume on him" "why is yahweh murdering 42 kids with she bears for makin fun of ol buddy's bald head"

There is a reason they hand out pamphlets and booklets of the shyt they want you to read, because they dont want you to get to the other stuff, which is the majority of the book. Imagine if in the black church they actually taught that yahweh gave the rules for slavery... niccaz'll be lookin at the double doors like

You can tell that people don't read the Old Testament or anything. They just read what's prescribed to them.

The God of post-Milton literature is more accurate to the Bible than the God of current popular Christianity. God's a jealous, vengeful, haughty twat.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

so we supposed to sit here and act like you didn't say this less than a page ago



EDIT: So I see y'all bringing that voodoo shenanigans in here now

This is a new one. Dudes are wrapping quote texts around shyt people didn't even say now? I don't know who said that first quote you put VictorVonDoom quotes around, but it wasn't me.

 

[Mr. Negative]

I don't know who said that first quote you put VictorVonDoom quotes around, but it wasn't me.

 

[Blackking]

Youre underestimating the power of having that message ingrained into your society. The church's MAIN TENET is the absolute opposite of accountability. It states you are evil, but its okay because this other perfect person will take the punishment for your evilness. The church is the exact opposite of accountability.
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So,

I believe that if you all actually study Christianity, you would have a better understanding of it. We can't base what we think of a Concept based on the actions and words of a few groups.

 

[The Real]

So,

I believe that if you all actually study Christianity, you would have a better understanding of it. We can't base what we think of a Concept based on the actions and words of a few groups.

I think the problem is is that some religious folks can't admit that there might be anything wrong with religion in itself. They always pretend that the critic hasn't read or understood properly, but then refuse to read or understand objective, scholarly writing on the religion themselves. Basically, they can't accept that someone might have read and studied their books thoroughly and still found things wrong with them.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

But if you don't act on this state of knowing then what good is it?

What good if knowledge if its not applied?

What good is potential if its not realized?



However, I will say that most churches have strayed away from messages that deal with accountability, I will give you that.


However, the irony is that the bible deals heavy in accountability. The book of proverbs in the new testament comes to mind first...

That's the point. You have to have the proper mooring of accountability and knowledge to make good decisions and actions. I'm saying the church and religiosity in general in many respects, fosters an outscourcing of that to "God."

 

[Blackking]

I think the problem is is that some religious folks can't admit that there might be anything wrong with religion in itself. They always pretend that the critic hasn't read or understood properly, but then refuse to read or understand objective, scholarly writing on the religion themselves. Basically, they can't accept that someone might have read and studied their books thoroughly and still found things wrong with them.

Christianity isn't all about no accountability or do whatever the hell you want. It also isn't about the other things that most non-Christians think it's about. We think of Everything from our current timeline and current perspective - which is ignorant. Also, we Actually believe that ever action in the Bible is there to condone it.... missing the symbolic point in the meantime.

And yes, no one likes to have the foundations of their belief system shaken... especially if it's engrained into their culture.... but most open minded people are open to criticism and discussion.

Atheist on this forum and in life prove that they can be just as closed minded and stubborn as Evangelicals. If a person is that way, they will be that way regardless of what their beliefs are... there are Christians who accept that there are flaws and illogical aspects to their dogma...

 

[intilectual recipricol]

So,

I believe that if you all actually study Christianity, you would have a better understanding of it. We can't base what we think of a Concept based on the actions and words of a few groups.

I'm basing it on THE BIBLE, not any groups actions. I just see in their actions what I see in the bible and it confirms my opinions. Truthfully they cant even decide who is and who isnt a Christian... Different groups will tell you other groups arent "True Christians" while that group says the same about the other. it was always non-sense to me once I got to the point where I was thinking critically.

I have a understanding of Christianity being one for 20 years or so (I was skeptical in my early-mid teens, by 20 I was like ) ... I been in several denominations, read different versions of the bible, had Jehovah's Witness friends, Catholic friends, several different denominations of protestant friends. My understanding of it is what makes me reject it.

 

[Blackking]

.................... Just to be clear... Christianity doesn't state to not hold yourself accountable for your actions. You were born a human knowing nothing of Christianity, so even if it did say that, you can't use that as an excuse to not be accountable; and if you aren't accountable you can't blame a belief system - your an adult, grow up.

Christianity actually says in over 15 book in the bible to be accountable... and also to help others take accountability. Being forgiven, isn't the same as Don't strive to be righteous, and never hold you or your people accountable. Forgiveness is rooted in acceptance and you should accept everyone for who they are and forgive even the most horrible things. The Bible says nothing about forgetting, or nothing about not being held accountable. Just look up some verses.