Excuses. Austin doesnt own the WWE. If Vince wanted the match, it happens.
At what point did The Rock surpass Steve Austin?
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I’d still say they’re on par.
However, an argument can be made that Rockys 2nd run against Cena/Punk/Miz/etc is was pushed him over. The fact that he came back at all, something Austin is adamant about not doing.
The Rock is just a bigger face in media as well.
But i still think if you ask people which one they think they goat is results are gonna be 50/50 its a tough question for people to answer.
However, an argument can be made that Rockys 2nd run against Cena/Punk/Miz/etc is was pushed him over. The fact that he came back at all, something Austin is adamant about not doing.
The Rock is just a bigger face in media as well.
But i still think if you ask people which one they think they goat is results are gonna be 50/50 its a tough question for people to answer.
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El Cocodrilo
Superstar
The Rock has surpassed every pro wrestler that’s ever lived in terms of being successful at life... and he’s most likely our future president.
All that aside, in a pro wrestling context he became the man over steve, but the rock at his peak i dont think is as impactful and great as stone cold steve austin at his best. So I would say the rock did not surpass him.
All that aside, in a pro wrestling context he became the man over steve, but the rock at his peak i dont think is as impactful and great as stone cold steve austin at his best. So I would say the rock did not surpass him.
prophecypro
Hollywood North
He definitely surpassed him in terms of recognition, and that might be because of outside Wrestling
But him being a mainstream star started when he was in the WWE still
I would say 2000
That SNL appearance before Wrestlemania, doing more award shows than Austin and even appearing on that Wyclef song thats when people saw he could do Hollywood stuff and started there
Business wise Austin might still be the biggest money maker (Merch plus tickets sold, though I been told Hogan is still number 1 from that gruelling 80s schedule) but Rock did help Mania 28 break records and 2000 was their most profitable year
But him being a mainstream star started when he was in the WWE still
I would say 2000
That SNL appearance before Wrestlemania, doing more award shows than Austin and even appearing on that Wyclef song thats when people saw he could do Hollywood stuff and started there
Business wise Austin might still be the biggest money maker (Merch plus tickets sold, though I been told Hogan is still number 1 from that gruelling 80s schedule) but Rock did help Mania 28 break records and 2000 was their most profitable year
InstantKlassik
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Honestly, it was solidied to me that he passed Austin at Mania X8 when the match was billed “Icon vs Icon” to determine the best ever while Austin’s character was cold and he was in a forgettable match with Scott Hall in the 4th match of the night. You know Austin felt some type of way lol. That realization sealed it for me because you could longer use the excuse that things would’ve been different if Austin had been around because he was.
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seemorecizzy
Superstar
Austin and hogan was the original plan though, everyone knows that. It didnt happen cause of politics, not cause austin was cold lol
I like rock more den austin, but rock never surpassed him in anything as far as the wrestling business goes..he always number 2, at his peak mayb a 1b.
InstantKlassik
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Like already stated. At the end of the day, it’s Vince’s company and Austin was an employee. If Vince wanted the match to happen it happens.
And Rock was no.1 in 2000 and took the company to heights that’s it’s never seen before or since.
seemorecizzy
Superstar
You're on the rock's cizzock lol
Cant expect you to be objective
I have no horse in this race
I was obsessed with wrestling during the attitude era.rock was my fav, Austin was da bigger star.
Austin vs hogan or austin vs goldberc would be considered a bigger match then rock vz goldberg or rock vs hogan and this isnt even debatable
seemorecizzy
Superstar
Hogan had creative control and said he wasnt losing to austin. Vince wanted austin to go over, plus austin didnt really wanna work wit austin in the first place. Rock wss option b
InstantKlassik
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But on Prichard’s podcast, Bruce said that Vince would never give creative control to another wrestler after Bret and the whole Montreal fiasco. Bret had creative control in his contract that’s the only reason why Vince was trying to reason with Bret to drop the title before screwing him.
You're on Austin's c0ck, gay thinker. Easy.
seemorecizzy
Superstar
Hogan had creative control in his contract.
So hes lying or misinformed
Austin is the historic bigger draw. The biggest draw in the history of wrestling. He was never surpassed.
If Austin didn't catch fire in 1998, WWF would be out of business and Dwayne would be tag teaming with Prince Iaukea on WCW Thunder.
If Austin didn't catch fire in 1998, WWF would be out of business and Dwayne would be tag teaming with Prince Iaukea on WCW Thunder.