At this point, its getting hard to deny LeBron is the best to ever pickup a Basketball

[fifth column]

You don't take personal shots? This is just from the last hour of this conversation.






Not only ignorant on bball matters, you're delusional too.

Are you not a Bron stan? How is that a personal shot. Don’t you post accounting ledgers about Lebron? I’m I missing something?

I keep it internet breh, it’s just entertainment and killing some time for me as it should be for y’all.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Are you trolling now?


Those are daily passes for Bron. Look at the time stamp - 2 of the first 4 passes in that clip are just regular open court behind-the-back passes that regular-ass Coli brehs use in games, and then it keeps showing normal everyday no-look, shovel passes, over the shoulder, etc. throughout the clip.

Imagine posting that a simple, telegraphed, behind-the-back pass to an unguarded player in the open court as one of your "greatest passes".

Basketball discourse is reaching its bottom. What the fukk did you think you have when you posted that clip?

 

[fifth column]

Bron is a better playmaker than MJ from every position on the floor possible. From the top of the court, swinging it around the elbow, out of the post, off of the drive, on the fast break, there literally is not a single possible situation where LeBron is not a dramatically better passer than MJ was. MJ was a solid passer who had a high bball IQ and could take advantage of his gravity well. Bron is one of the greatest passers in NBA history.

Lebron is not one of the greatest passers in history, you always pushing shyt. He turns over the ball at an alarming rate. He is a great passer for a sf like Larry Bird

 

[Art Barr]

No one who denies that LeBron is a better passer than MJ is even trying to look serious.

Stop

When Mike was moved to point guard. Mike statistically before rule changes was the best pg in league history and racked up ten triple doubles in a row at only eleven games at pg. The only game mike did not average a triple double. Was a blow out win and mj sat out quarters of play.

Jordan is better at lebron natural position.
Plus rivaled and best in that volume sample size any pg statiscally in nba history.



So stop the cap.

Mike was a better passer and distributor than lebron.
Please a better leader and a better player at lebron natural position of point guard. Lebron Shirked his natural position of pg and a nightly mismatch.
to be better closely related to beinga forward. Leaning on the loser styling of Elgin baylor.

Elgin lost eveey final trip in a row with all that help too.

Lebron = Elgin baylor 2.0


Art Barr

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Lebron is not one of the greatest passers in history, you always pushing shyt. He turns over the ball at an alarming rate. He is a great passer for a sf like Larry Bird

Hmmm....I wonder what Mark Jackson, 6th all-time in assists in NBA history, has to say.


“The greatest passing non-point guard to ever play this game and one of the greatest passers the game has ever seen,” said Mark Jackson. "He is the second greatest point guard that ever wear purple and gold. He is that great of a player. Number one is clear, and number two is clear, and you can bunch all those other guys together. They’ve had some great ones, but these two guys are heads and shoulders above the rest. Magic Johnson and LeBron James are heads and shoulders above everyone else.”

Mark Jackson came into the league in '88 averaging 10.4 assists/game, finishing 3rd behind Stockton/Magic and ahead of Isiah. He led the league in assists with 11.4 in 1997, ahead of Stockton, KJ, and Jason Kidd. Was still averaging 7.4 assists/game in 2002, just behind Steve Nash. And, of course, he coached the Steph Curry and the Warriors right in the middle of LeBron, Rondo, and Chris Paul's primes. You think he doesn't know who the greatest passers in NBA history are? He's a legendary passer who has been intimately around the game for 35 years. If he can say it, I'm pretty sure I can.



LeBron turns the ball at a normal rate for a guy who is a high-volume scorer AND high-volume distributor. He doesn't turn it over nearly as much as Magic Johnson did, and no one questioned whether Magic was one of the greatest passers.

For his career, Bron only averages 1.9 passing turnovers/game. That's the exact same as Steph, but the Warriors had the advantage of the greatest spacing in NBA history and Steph still averages fewer assists than Bron does. Kidd averaged 2.0 passing turnovers/game, Nash averaged 2.1 passing turnovers/game, Westbrook averages 2.3, Magic averaged around 3.0 and Isiah was just behind him. The only great PG who averaged significantly fewer passing turnovers was Chris Paul (about 1.4 passing turnovers/game), but CP3 was famous for having one of the lowest turnover rates in history, partly because he always waits for the safest passes.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Stop

When Mike was moved to point guard. Mike statistically before rule changes was the best pg in league history and racked up ten triple doubles in a row at only eleven games at pg.

LOL. First off, MJ didn't just play 11 games at point guard, that's a lie stans use to cherry-pick his best run. And second, Jordan openly statpadded for a few games to prove a point. If LeBron blatantly tried to get 10 assists a game no matter what was happening, of course he'd do it - Bron averaged 10 assists for an ENTIRE SEASON, not just 11 games.

JORDAN NOT TAKING CHANCES IN GAINING TRIPLE-DOUBLES​

Since moving to point guard 16 games ago, Jordan has recorded eight triple-doubles....

During breaks in games, Jordan has been wandering over to the scorer's table to get updates on how many rebounds, assists and points he needs to fill his three double-figure quotas.

"The guys at the scorer's desk let me know what I need," he said. "They tell me, 'You need three assists; you need two rebounds."'

Jordan also has been double-checking the figures with Chicago assistants.

"They keep me in tune," he said. "They keep reminding me when I come back to the huddle, how much I need."

Last Sunday, at home against New Jersey, the 10th assist was Jordan's final goal.

"I knew I had nine assists," he said, "and I looked at (forward) Brad (Sellers), and said, 'Brad, can I count on you for my 10th?' And he said, 'yeah' and hit a jumper from the baseline."

The push for the elusive triple-double is part of Jordan's push for greater respect.



Award blatant, admitted stat-padding as if that determines greatness.

 

[Art Barr]

LOL. First off, MJ didn't just play 11 games at point guard, that's a lie stans use to cherry-pick his best run. And second, Jordan openly statpadded for a few games to prove a point. If LeBron blatantly tried to get 10 assists a game no matter what was happening, of course he'd do it - Bron averaged 10 assists for an ENTIRE SEASON, not just 11 games.

JORDAN NOT TAKING CHANCES IN GAINING TRIPLE-DOUBLES​

Since moving to point guard 16 games ago, Jordan has recorded eight triple-doubles....

During breaks in games, Jordan has been wandering over to the scorer's table to get updates on how many rebounds, assists and points he needs to fill his three double-figure quotas.

"The guys at the scorer's desk let me know what I need," he said. "They tell me, 'You need three assists; you need two rebounds."'

Jordan also has been double-checking the figures with Chicago assistants.

"They keep me in tune," he said. "They keep reminding me when I come back to the huddle, how much I need."

Last Sunday, at home against New Jersey, the 10th assist was Jordan's final goal.

"I knew I had nine assists," he said, "and I looked at (forward) Brad (Sellers), and said, 'Brad, can I count on you for my 10th?' And he said, 'yeah' and hit a jumper from the baseline."

The push for the elusive triple-double is part of Jordan's push for greater respect.



Award blatant, admitted stat-padding as if that determines greatness.

It is only stat padding in your estimation.

When lebron can not convert in the finals.
Stop the deflection because you have no factual statistical metric.
to aid you in lebron versus Jordan.


When lebron went to the scoring table and asked how many finals. Bron needed to win to match jordan.

lebron failed.
So stop The cap.

Again Jordan is better than Bron.
at any idea or argument you want to spew that logically makes sense in comparison period.
From Jordan being superior to lebron at his natural position of point guard lebron shirked and failed to properly lead as he was drafted to do. Jordan moving over still is better than lebron in every facet. Including being a better passer and point guard.


Art Barr

 

[Everythingg]

Are you trolling now?


Those are daily passes for Bron. Look at the time stamp - 2 of the first 4 passes in that clip are just regular open court behind-the-back passes that regular-ass Coli brehs use in games, and then it keeps showing normal everyday no-look, shovel passes, over the shoulder, etc. throughout the clip.

Imagine posting that a simple, telegraphed, open, behind-the-back pass in the open court is one of your "greatest passes".

Basketball discourse is reaching its bottom. What the fukk did you think you have when you posted that clip?

The full video shows that MJ had the ability to do exactly what Lebron is doing now. He had vision to be a PG if he wanted he just wasn’t asked (and didn’t demand) to stand at the top of the key with 4 shooters around him and score or assist every play. He could play within an offense that wasn’t centered around him having the ball at the top of the key every play, something Bron only showed in Miami (and barely)

And MJ btw has at least 3 seasons (being generous might by 6-7)better than any Bron season, more accomplishments and won more but you think Bron is better because he played longer lol….

 

[BK The Great]

Curry might mess around and steal this whole era from Lebron

Curry is also liked more. He doesn’t come off as cocky.

 

[cobra]

So why is Karl Malone not discussed as the best PF ever or Stockton as the goat pg or even top 10 player if longevity stats were so important? The goat debate is about peak performance. How good was a player when he was in his prime and what impact did he have on his team and the league. Nice try

Lebron went to 8 straight finals and 10 overall but the era is tougher? He basically caked walked through the weak eastern conference and only faced real competition in the finals where he came up short on the regular(4-6). MJ had to battle through the tough and grimy east to get the finals where he closed the deal 6-6 times.

Karl Malone is not discussed because he didn’t win anything plus he is a pedophile.

Objectively if you look at peak performance 1988-1998 Karl Malone is better than KG, Barkley or Dirk

also MJ never played teams at the level of the warriors or even spurs
Curry, KD and Jokic are anomalies that MJ never had to Deal with

 

[cobra]

Curry might mess around and steal this whole era from Lebron

Bron beating him last year deaded any talk of that

 

[fifth column]

Karl Malone is not discussed because he didn’t win anything plus he is a pedophile.

Objectively if you look at peak performance 1988-1998 Karl Malone is better than KG, Barkley or Dirk

also MJ never played teams at the level of the warriors or even spurs
Curry, KD and Jokic are anomalies that MJ never had to Deal with

Like I said before, I’m not here to discuss no what if fantasy bs that y’all Bron stans love to bring up as a distraction. it happened and can be verified or it didn’t. I don’t know how good MJ would be in this era and I don’t know how good Lebron would be in the 90s. Frankly I don’t care.

 

[10bandz]

Rhakim in here embarassing himself, again.

 

[fifth column]

Bron beating him last year deaded any talk of that

Beating him in the 2nd round? Lebron ain’t go much further than Steph last year.

 

[10bandz]