At This Moment, Where Is John Cena On The All Time List?

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As much as I love Flair, I think only three deserve to be in that top tier and that's Austin/Rock/Hogan. No wrestlers come close to the impact those 3 had on professional wrestling's relevancy.

I'd put Flair in the 2nd tier.

Heck, at this point, I'd probably even put Cena in the 2nd tier too. I mean like it or not, he's been the top guy for nearly a decade now and while he hasn't made wrestling as popular or huge as Austin, Hogan, and Rock did, he made a big enough impact to be considered a 2nd tier guy IMO.

You gotta think outside of a WWE/F perspective. Yeah, Austin/Rock/Hogan were big on a national level, but Flair was the biggest star going back to the territory days and thruout the ENTIRE South. And then when you consider he was better in the ring than Rock/Hogan, it's a no brainer
 

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RVD wasn't having matches with Austin, Rock, Angle, Taker, Booker T, and going over the WHOLE fukkING ROSTER? Or you are just trolling now because you've lost merit on sense?

WTF is a Snoop Dogg smilie supposed to prove to me? Like they're dropping the mic or something:laugh::laugh::laugh: Children these days..it's always comical in the end. Diversions. Lies. Ignorance of history. It's a really sad thing but that's all that's left in the business I suppose. Oh well.
 

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RVD wasn't having matches with Austin, Rock, Angle, Taker, Booker T, and going over the WHOLE fukkING ROSTER? Or you are just trolling now because you've lost merit on sense?

WTF is a Snoop Dogg smilie supposed to prove to me? Like they're dropping the mic or something:laugh::laugh::laugh: Children these days..it's always comical in the end. Diversions. Lies. Ignorance of history. It's a really sad thing but that's all that's left in the business I suppose. Oh well.

Right, Im The Troll :mjpls:
 

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You gotta think outside of a WWE/F perspective. Yeah, Austin/Rock/Hogan were big on a national level, but Flair was the biggest star going back to the territory days and thruout the ENTIRE South. And then when you consider he was better in the ring than Rock/Hogan, it's a no brainer

What does being better in the ring have to do with his star power? Flair was never hotter than Goldberg, Rock, Austin, or Hogan at any point. Ever. He became a consistent down south draw in the 80s but he wasn't a once in a lifetime type difference maker. Flair was big down south for a period but Rock, Hogan, and Austin were selling out every arena they touched in Japan, Europe, Austrailia, and Africa. It's not even the same coin.
 

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Right, Im The Troll :mjpls:

Apparently so. Talking about Cena wrestling in 2001 like you couldn't comprehend the slightiest of comparisons and then getting even more ridiculous by acting like Cena would count had Lesnar not went away after just signing that $40 million deal. Lesnar was who the show revolved around..he was who they kept away from Cripple H and let run wild and went over Rock and Taker clean. They were planning on having Austin lose to him from the get go. Cena and Orton were absolute nobodies compared to his push. Cena debuted as a chump rookie taking Angle to the limit? That was height of their creativity for him? LOL. Cena was just a guy who talked alot and lost big matches as a heel. He wasn't shyt:pachaha:
 

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Apparently so. Talking about Cena wrestling in 2001 like you couldn't comprehend the slightiest of comparisons and then getting even more ridiculous by acting like Cena would count had Lesnar not went away after just signing that $40 million deal. Lesnar was who the show revolved around..he was who they kept away from Cripple H and let run wild and went over Rock and Taker clean. They were planning on having Austin lose to him from the get go. Cena and Orton were absolute nobodies compared to his push. Cena debuted as a chump rookie taking Angle to the limit? That was height of their creativity for him? LOL. Cena was just a guy who talked alot and lost big matches as a heel. He wasn't shyt:pachaha:

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The fact that any true fan of wrestling can have Cena anywhere their top 20 of all-time is beyond me. He's been the hand picked superstar of this era yet isn't the undisputed best at anything really..he's nowhere near the best wrestler/worker, he has the WOAT promo game, he doesn't sell ANYTHING, he doesn't put anyone over when it matters most, what other superstar from previous eras can you say all thee above things about?

They've had to rely on Taker, Rock and Brock to generate any kind of interest in the past FIVE Wrestlemanias, I don't think he's ever had a match at Mania that anyone cared about until Rock was nice enough to give him attention..it's pretty sad that his Superman reign over the past 9 years has crippled this entire era so drastically even to the point of having to rely on stars of the past, i never remember Rock, Hogan Austin and others having to do so at any time and sadly..when it's all said and done he will be looked at on the same level as Ausin,Rock and Hogan because Vince and WWE's hype machine will sell the lie over and over until it becomes fact..but the more educated fan will always know the truth.
 

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The fact that any true fan of wrestling can have Cena anywhere their top 20 of all-time is beyond me. He's been the hand picked superstar of this era yet isn't the undisputed best at anything really..he's nowhere near the best wrestler/worker, he has the WOAT promo game, he doesn't sell ANYTHING, he doesn't put anyone over when it matters most, what other superstar from previous eras can you say all thee above things about?

They've had to rely on Taker, Rock and Brock to generate any kind of interest in the past FIVE Wrestlemanias, I don't think he's ever had a match at Mania that anyone cared about until Rock was nice enough to give him attention..it's pretty sad that his Superman reign over the past 9 years has crippled this entire era so drastically even to the point of having to rely on stars of the past, i never remember Rock, Hogan Austin and others having to do so at any time and sadly..when it's all said and done he will be looked at on the same level as Ausin,Rock and Hogan because Vince and WWE's hype machine will sell the lie over and over until it becomes fact..but the more educated fan will always know the truth.

Awwwwwwww, someone give this man a tissue. Snot is dripping all over his Just Bring It T-Shirt. There there buddy. Guess what? It's not real, damnit. Not the parts you're whining about anyway. Now the sick kids and the money? That's real. And Cena handles that. Now go clean yaself up champ. :jawalrus:
 

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WTF does sick kids have to do with wrestling icon status? LMAO! The reaching is AMAZING for the normal and unconventional.
 
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Awwwwwwww, someone give this man a tissue. Snot is dripping all over his Just Bring It T-Shirt. There there buddy. Guess what? It's not real, damnit. Not the parts you're whining about anyway. Now the sick kids and the money? That's real. And Cena handles that. Now go clean yaself up champ. :jawalrus:
None of its real yet we are all in here talking about it, I love how Cena fans like to run to the Charity Work angle like he's the first wrestler in history to do so, anyone who watches wrestling knows that kids like Cena, it's the more mature fans with brains that aren't influenced by WWE's marketing that knows he sucks but...carry along
 

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The fact that any true fan of wrestling can have Cena anywhere their top 20 of all-time is beyond me. He's been the hand picked superstar of this era yet isn't the undisputed best at anything really..he's nowhere near the best wrestler/worker, he has the WOAT promo game, he doesn't sell ANYTHING, he doesn't put anyone over when it matters most, what other superstar from previous eras can you say all thee above things about?

They've had to rely on Taker, Rock and Brock to generate any kind of interest in the past FIVE Wrestlemanias, I don't think he's ever had a match at Mania that anyone cared about until Rock was nice enough to give him attention..it's pretty sad that his Superman reign over the past 9 years has crippled this entire era so drastically even to the point of having to rely on stars of the past, i never remember Rock, Hogan Austin and others having to do so at any time and sadly..when it's all said and done he will be looked at on the same level as Ausin,Rock and Hogan because Vince and WWE's hype machine will sell the lie over and over until it becomes fact..but the more educated fan will always know the truth.

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BTW his promo game is what it is but not WOAT by any means.
 

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None of its real yet we are all in here talking about it, I love how Cena fans like to run to the Charity Work angle like he's the first wrestler in history to do so, anyone who watches wrestling knows that kids like Cena, it's the more mature fans with brains that aren't influenced by WWE's marketing that knows he sucks but...carry along

Damn, you're really bothered. :wow:



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