At some HBCUs, just 1 in 3 students is a man [Wash. Post article]

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I dunno. Culture and upbringing have a lot to do with the issue.

The same culture and up bringing seems to get women in college but not men, there are not a lot of bridges for boys to get into college or be prepared for it, or encouraged

Not including the women that turn their education/career into their defacto man, so they focused getting that masters and PhD in dead in careers
This article is focused on black male enrollment at HBCU. But lack of boys going to college is a problem across the board for all boys. So I'm not sure why we need to frame this as a "black" problem
Because we don’t care why Peter, Chang, hector, or Vishnu is in college

More black men need to be in college
 

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this is about as much energy as i'm putting into this cuz i know you like to troll and argue.

You preach from a place of victimhood so I don’t expect you to put much effort in the first place. For the record I’m not denying that fukk shyt is ever not uttered but that caveat isn’t the whole story
 

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The same culture and up bringing seems to get women in college but not men
that's exactly what I mean. :francis:

Culture encourages a lot of pipeline to prison imagery and messaging.

and it ain't a coincidence either, but that's another topic.
 

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We need more encouragement at an early age for black boys, we also need to switch up how we are teaching them, boys and girls learn differently, we need more programs to bridge boys into stem, and college

But colleges need to loosen the admissions standards, and cost of tuition

I remember my freshman year it was a lot of dudes, but even more women, them numbers plummeted by time nikkas got to graduation
 
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ehhh, then why are all the girls going tho :patrice:
Good question and one that no one has really answers yet. The Atlantic had a decent article on this about a year or two ago. Interesting tidbit that applies primarily to black men from that article

Less women are still going to college, it’s just the dramatic decline has been with men. But cost is still the primary barrier to entry



“This male haphazardness might be reproducing itself among younger generations of men who lack stable role models to point the way to college. Single-parent households have grown significantly more common in the past half century, and 80 percent of those are headed by mothers. This is in part because men are more likely to be incarcerated; more than 90 percent of federal inmates, for example, are men. Men are also less likely to be fixtures of boys’ elementary-school experience; about 75 percent of public-school teachers are female. Suggesting that women can’t teach boys would be absurd. But the absence of male teachers might be part of a broader absence of men in low-income areas who can model the path to college for boys who are looking for direction.

This argument might sound pretty touchy-feely. But some empirical research backs it. A 2018 study of social mobility and race led by the Harvard economist Raj Chetty found that income inequality between Black and white Americans was disproportionately driven by bad outcomes for Black boys. The few neighborhoods where Black and white boys grew up to have similar adult outcomes were low-poverty areas that also had high levels of “father presence.” That is, even boys without a father at home saw significantly more upward mobility when their neighborhood had a large number of fathers present. High-poverty areas without fathers present seem to be doubly impoverished, and boys who live in these neighborhoods are less likely to achieve the milestones, such as college attendance, that lead to a middle-class salary or better”
 

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Black parents must take command of their children's life until 18 yo. And many times beyond that.
We need more encouragement at an early age for black boys, we also need to switch up how we are teaching them, boys and girls learn differently, we need more programs to bridge boys into stem, and college

But colleges need to loosen the admissions standards, and cost of tuition

I remember my freshman year it was a lot of dudes, but even more women, them numbers plummeted by time nikkas got to graduation
Or we just need fathers raising the kids they birth
 

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@get these nets from the Analytics thread:

hbcu-sex-ratio.png

We talked about how the highest gap for men and women is strangely in Louisiana and blue collar opportunities in oil and gas may drive this.
Yes. The discussions we've on this site, based on your aggregate and individual profile threads on HBCUs were much more detailed than this article. I expected more., but it was interesting seeing it being reported in such a platform.
The thing is, the serious minded members here speak freely and don't have agendas/editors, so the discussions here are generally more informative than a lot of articles.
 

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Also...the one other thing I would mention is the technical/engineering HBCUs fortunately have better ratios. NC A&T is 1.56 to 1, Alabama A&M 1.4 etc.
This is what I was thinking.

If it were me I would not go to Howard just for the sake of HBCU. Like what are they offering….
 

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@get these nets from the Analytics thread:


We talked about how the highest gap for men and women is strangely in Louisiana and blue collar opportunities in oil and gas may drive this.
@Originalman first brought up the alternative paths in those industries when the Rate HBCUs series began covering the Gulf region schools. High starting salaries, growing industries, room for advancement . That was the first time I heard it explained in such detail.
 
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No surprise @get these nets. This is actually a big problem at PWIs as well. Especially in the deep south at some of the poor states and really rural areas (as well as in the big city colleges no matter the location).

Even at PWIs its more common to see a gap of 60% women and 40% men than you will see 60% men and 40% women in terms of university attendance. That is also why a lot of men whether HBCUs or PWIs lose their focus at college cause those numbers are so big. There are just much more women than men at many of these colleges around the country.

Add that women are normally better students and IMO are harder to distract from college due to social issues. Such as women look at a job as something they enjoy and men look at a job as in how much they gonna pay who cares if I like it.
 

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We need more encouragement at an early age for black boys, we also need to switch up how we are teaching them, boys and girls learn differently, we need more programs to bridge boys into stem, and college

But colleges need to loosen the admissions standards, and cost of tuition

I remember my freshman year it was a lot of dudes, but even more women, them numbers plummeted by time nikkas got to graduation

1. NSBE (National Society of Black Engineers) has plenty of bridge programs in STEM already. Not to mention summer programs by big corporations. Legacy Civil rights orgs also college readiness programs too.

2. A number of HBCU already have less strict admission standards however I dont think loosening standard is a good idea. You need high standards as college education needs students who take it seriously and are academically capable of learning the material.

3. Also there are plenty of scholarships you can get to lighten the cost of tuition, ranging from Academic full rides to ROTC etc.

The infrastructure is already in place for most of these things to encourage college enrollment. I think the real issue is a lack of interest, simply not knowing about these opportunities or myths about college being too expensive or worthless.

When you hear your favorite influencer say “College is a scam” or “I dont use my degree at all” on social media why would you expect someone to try to go.
 

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Also...the one other thing I would mention is the technical/engineering HBCUs fortunately have better ratios. NC A&T is 1.56 to 1, Alabama A&M 1.4 etc.
This was definitely the case when I was at Morgan State and I graduated damn near 20 years ago. But don’t black women outnumber black men in general? Why are some of y’all shocked by this?
:heh:

In the current college aged cohort, the numbers of men and women for Black folks is back to near parity. 20 years ago crack and infant mortality gave us the gap you speak of
 
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