ASAP Rocky - Industry plant?

[Zach Lowe]

That was their image but Clancy, their manager, was getting shouted out in songs, appearing in their videos and being interviewed?

From their Billboard interview people use as evidence of them being plants.

Odd Future: The Billboard Cover Story | Billboard.com





So not only do they interview the managers, they talk about them being from Interscope and the managers say that their job is set them up, make the connections for them, find ways to build their brand.

this thread's not even about them
they were planted tho you can defend them all you want but it's pretty obvious

weren't you talking this same shyt like in page 4 or 5 or something

 

[RegB]

ASAP Rocky aint a industry plant. He blew up off that Purple swag and Peso's song, which was produced by his boys.


I cant remember where it was but I was reading a interview of the whole thing. ASAP rocky owes alot of his success to his boy ASAP YAMs (the puerto rican kid), he interned for Dipset, Jim Jones, Max B, and RCA I think , he is apparently a super smart puffy type of music entrepneur, he is the one who marketed Rocky, even picks his beats too..


He was pumping Rocky up on Tumblr for a minute even before the blow up songs came out, on some real underground artist type ish. They pooled together money to shoot videos for the two songs. They released em on the internet. Then they caught mad hype. Signed their deals and thats that.



HE WAS NOT SIGNED WHEN HE RELEASED PURPLE SWAG AND PESO


HE WAS SIGNED WHEN HE RELEASED HIS LIVELOVEASAP




Edit: Joey Badass on the other hand is a complete industry plant. shyt his mangers dont even hide it Johnny Shipes (big krit, nipsey hussle, smoke dza) . Shipes saw a video of him freestyling on worldstar back in the day and saw alot of marketing potential in him. He hit him up on twitter and the rest is history.

Damn not my nikka joey but i always wondered how he got in a position to be on that mac miller song without even havin a mixtape out.

 

[malbaker86]

It's TOO risky to invest money in an "industry plant"

 

[jwinfield]

Edit: Joey Badass on the other hand is a complete industry plant. shyt his mangers dont even hide it Johnny Shipes (big krit, nipsey hussle, smoke dza) . Shipes saw a video of him freestyling on worldstar back in the day and saw alot of marketing potential in him. He hit him up on twitter and the rest is history.

So a manager finds talent, signs him and get him publicity, gets him noticed? That makes him a plant?

If he was to discover Joey at some talent show and do the same, would he still be considered a plant?

 

[YBE]

The common denominator in all these theories tho is one thing.



TALENT/STAR POTENTIAL



So it dont matter if you fukkin with a CEO daughter, if you dont got it you dont got. So for all you coli rappers who think you have a shot .











NOPE

I got a chance b

 

[volk]

That was their image but Clancy, their manager, was getting shouted out in songs, appearing in their videos and being interviewed?

From their Billboard interview people use as evidence of them being plants.

Odd Future: The Billboard Cover Story | Billboard.com




So not only do they interview the managers, they talk about them being from Interscope and the managers say that their job is set them up, make the connections for them, find ways to build their brand.

God you people are stupid. This article is from 2011. Odd Future has been around WAY longer than that. Tyler was a regular poster just like us on the Hypebeast forums in like 2007 talking about this album b*stard that he was working on and would post his music. I think you can still find some of his old posts.

Last year I also stumbled upon his old blog from like 2007/2008 when he was like 16 in High School and would post his photography, talk all the projects he was working on and his dream for Odd Future and projects he wanted to do in the future and how b*stard was coming along and mostly just rant about life in general. He was just a regular kid that loved to make music and had big dreams. Here are some random posts (you have to highlight the page to read the text because the font is white).

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Read through some of the blog entries. OF is the real deal, he's been working on this stuff for a long time and he started it all by himself.

This is what happens, you are interesting, you start to build a small following, you get noticed and people in high places see you have potential. You get managers and deals and people help you promote your work in hopes that they will get a return on their investment. This is basic industry stuff that has been going on forever, no conspiracy about it. Industry plant?

 

[Ronnie Lott]

no one's saying any of these rappers didn't grind at first we're saying their big "rise to the top" moment was manufactured

2 Chainz has been grinding for years but I do believe the random barrage of getting featured on hot records was a set up by Def Jam

But tity been killin features before he was oficially signed to def jam

 

[Ronnie Lott]

God you people are stupid. This article is from 2011. Odd Future has been around WAY longer than that. Tyler was a regular poster just like us on the Hypebeast forums in like 2007 talking about this album b*stard that he was working on and would post his music. I think you can still find some of his old posts.

Last year I also stumbled upon his old blog from like 2007/2008 when he was like 16 in High School and would post his photography, talk all the projects he was working on and his dream for Odd Future and projects he wanted to do in the future and how b*stard was coming along and mostly just rant about life in general. He was just a regular kid that loved to make music and had big dreams. Here are some random posts (you have to highlight the page to read the text because the font is white).

link

link

link

Read through some of the blog entries. OF is the real deal, he's been working on this stuff for a long time and he started it all by himself.

This is what happens, you are interesting, you start to build a small following, you get noticed and people in high places see you have potential. You get managers and deals and people help you promote your work in hopes that they will get a return on their investment. This is basic industry stuff that has been going on forever, no conspiracy about it. Industry plant?

Preach. Close thread

 

[Zach Lowe]

But tity been killin featured before he was oficially signed to def jam

Before you heard he was officially signed

and even if he wasn't signed people could've gotten him looks with the agreement that he would re-sign with Def Jam if his buzz took off

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Before you heard he was officially signed

and even if he wasn't signed people could've gotten him looks with the agreement that he would re-sign with Def Jam if his buzz took off

I'm not really understandin what ur sayin bruh. Are u sayin that 2chainz would have been doin mad features before the def jam signing?

 

[Rominati]

I got a chance b

Aint you 24 already b. You got like 2 years to get it together and drop a mixtape shoot enough videos and blow. Labels aint trying to sign no old nikka











Aint you in college too breh? I would jus focus on my education if I was you

 

[YBE]

Aint you 24 already b. You got like 2 years to get it together and drop a mixtape shoot enough videos and blow. Labels aint trying to sign no old nikka











Aint you in college too breh? I would jus focus on my education if I was you

 

[Zach Lowe]

I'm not really understandin what ur sayin bruh. Are u sayin that 2chainz would have been doin mad features before the def jam signing?

You're forgetting that he was already on Def Jam as part of Playaz Circle and Ludacris is his man so once they saw him starting to catch heat they might've approached him and re-signed him on the low then announced that he re-signed after exploiting the unsigned buzz angle

remember when the news that he signed with Def Jam came out he also revealed that he's been in the studio with Kanye for a year? he's on Def Jam too right? must be a coincidence

 

[Ronnie Lott]

You're forgetting that he was already on Def Jam as part of Playaz Circle and Ludacris is his man so once they saw him starting to catch heat they might've approached him and re-signed him on the low then announced that he re-signed after exploiting the unsigned buzz angle

remember when the news that he signed with Def Jam came out he also revealed that he's been in the studio with Kanye for a year? he's on Def Jam too right? must be a coincidence

Ok, yeah. I feel what your sayin now. 2chainz was signed to def jam as a part of dtp thru def jam, but obviously not signed as a solo artist. But tity stayed on his grind with all those trapaveli mixtapes and codein cowboy mixtapes and he just started buzzin. If tity didn't build his own buzz he would have been dolla boy status. But both def jam and tity benefitted from signin with def jam. He was probly already familiar with the people up at def jam and he was able to work a cool deal.of course def jam and tity would hype up him signin to def jam and put the buzz out that tity was in the studio heavy with Ye.. but def jam woud have never considered signin tity as a solo artist if he didn't get hot by himself or if other labels weren't pullin at him

 

[ZEB WALTON]

you can bypass hometown buzz with the internet if you know what your doing. getting signed only hurries the process