As violence returns to '90s level, so does response from Black leadership, Oakland NAACP asks city to get tougher on crime/* Mayor & DA recalled

[Godless Socialist CEO]

You have been calling out democrats alot lately and holding them accountable. I regret to inform you, negativity against democrats is considered rightwing. You are now Godless Bothsides CEO

I'm literally a socialist and have been one for years

My ideology isn't compatible with neoliberalism, but I understand that's preferable to fascism, unlike the rest of you. I've criticized dem's for years in HL yall just choose to ignore that because you're right wing lunatics and actually agree with many tenets of that ideology

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Look up how the crime bill came to be. Look up who wanted it. History repeating itself.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

The Left makes sense when they argue that people are stealing bread (or selling drugs) to feed themselves or their families.
Property crime, be it to sustain or floss, is about resources.

But

The leftists/socialists always try to explain violent crime as lack of economic opportunity.

'Violence is growing': Oakland community advocates search for solutions amid rising crime

A community gathering in Oakland was held on Saturday to support victims of crime and their families. The event comes amid increased concerns over public safety, some saying violent crime requires nothing short of a state of emergency.

abc7news.com

As if every violent act has some underlying economic basis.

• A dude disrespects another dude - that's about money
• Somebody kills a crew member - that's about jobs
• A dude sleeps with another dudes girl - yeah, that's really an economic issue
• A chick gets buck and gets backhanded - You know if was in a good paying job, he wouldn't be so stressed

And they say capitalists reduce human beings to numbers.

Toddler siblings punch and bite each other. They don't even contemplate a market economy - but per the Left, the roots of the conflict are economic in nature...

I mean if we pump enough money into a community, so that it's as spread out as the white community, with very little human contact - I guess that would solve the problem of violence...

Meanwhile most poor areas are dense, and most poor people aren't committing property crimes, much less violent ones.

At their core, the Left doesn't really like to deal with human nature, and its ugly side.

That's why their systems fail.

What a stupid fukking post. If your argument is that overpolicing in impoverished communities is a problem that need to be solved there isn't a single leftist that wouldn't agree wtih you but you chose to go the right wing propaganda route of bullshyt that isn't true at all.


"HuMaN NaTuRe Is To Be A pIeCe of shyt" - typical dumb ass TLR poster

Get all the way the fukk outta here with that trash neoliberal/right wing propaganda used to overpolice and jail black people

 

[Secure Da Bag]

So basically, we've learned nothing the 1st time.

Or is this some out of pocket ploy, to get Harris into the top seat?

 

[ISO]

Go on Indeed and tell me what jobs are available in those areas that will have them living decent enough to be worth it, Show me the GAINFUL employment they're "ignoring" to do crime.

I’m not from Oakland.

But I’m sure municipal jobs are available both degree and non-degree.

I can speak for NYC where we are struggling to fill municipal jobs currently in a hiring crisis with 8% of jobs available across all departments. I think this is a national trend too.

I would consider any municipal job as “gainful” employment even the lower salaried ones and there are hundreds of job titles across municipal services.

What is worth it? What is decent enough?

 

[get these nets]

I think if people don't live in these crime heavy areas they need to respectfully fall back. It's easy to pontificate about how things should be and should be ran while none of the crime affects you and you live in a whitebread suburb surrounded by cacs. There are black people who have to live in these areas and experience it in real time and if they themselves are saying something needs to be done about it I'm gonna have to defer to them.

Yeah, I mentioned the term "echo chamber" before. I get the impression that several dudes here get their weekly scripts to read from the same thought leaders. Anything that runs contrary to what their thought leaders tell them to think and say is going to be dismissed. Using standard deflections.
Even the thoughts from board members, residents, and community leaders from the areas being discussed are dismissed.

The thought that their take on a situation might be proven wrong upsets them more than the idea of Black people being victimized by crime. That's where all the deflections come from. Anything to avoid the fact that community leaders and residents want increased law enforcement presence and criminals arrested, prosecuted, and locked up before they victimize more people. That's the issue, not any of this other stuff.

 

[WIA20XX]

What a stupid fukking post. If your argument is that overpolicing in impoverished communities is a problem that need to be solved there isn't a single leftist that wouldn't agree wtih you but you chose to go the right wing propaganda route of bullshyt that isn't true at all.


"HuMaN NaTuRe Is To Be A pIeCe of shyt" - typical dumb ass TLR poster

Get all the way the fukk outta here with that trash neoliberal/right wing propaganda used to overpolice and jail black people

Deflection
Moving Goal Post
Name Calling

Typical.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Failed leadership, including the movement to defund the police, our District Attorney’s unwillingness to charge and prosecute people who murder and commit life threatening serious crimes, and the proliferation of anti-police rhetoric have created a heyday for Oakland criminals. If there are no consequences for committing crime in Oakland, crime will continue to soar.

I'm dismissing anybody pushing these blatant lies.

 

[Marc Spector]

I’m not from Oakland.

But I’m sure municipal jobs are available both degree and non-degree.

I can speak for NYC where we are struggling to fill municipal jobs currently in a hiring crisis with 8% of jobs available across all departments. I think this is a national trend too.

I would consider any municipal job as “gainful” employment even the lower salaried ones and there are hundreds of job titles across municipal services.

What is worth it? What is decent enough?

The issue is that alot of the people who need that job the most are already too far gone. This is in my opinion where conservatives kinda have a point about a decaying culture that erodes everything around it. Alotta young, poor Black youth are completely entrenched in the “I want it FAST but LUXURIOUS and IM NOT WORKING FOR NOBODY” mantra and this isnt getting into how all zoomers have a very different view on work and hierarchal structure. Working a city job just doesn’t resonate with kids nowadays and they cannot see the potential of such a position

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Deflection
Moving Goal Post
Name Calling

Typical.

Yes because you don't deserve genuine engagement after a post like that. That was the definition of bad faith posting. You deserved to be called a fukking idiot

 

[motion order]

The thought that their take on a situation might be proven wrong upsets them more than the idea of Black people being victimized by crime. That's where all the deflections come from. Anything to avoid the fact that community leaders and residents want increased law enforcement presence and criminals arrested, prosecuted, and locked up before they victimize more people. That's the issue, not any of this other ststuff.

This isn't a sound argument. This is just a half-assed appeal to authority.

 

[Ski Mask]

Cant wait for the future documentaries and articles stating how the future crime bill did more harm than good to the community like last time.

 

[DonB90]

Healthy economies where people can be gainfully employed, hence having something to lose.



Almost everyone committing these sorts of crimes are poor. People with shyt to lose don't do shyt like that. They're too busy being productive and maintaing/improving their situations.

People with morality and work ethic or either to busy working too tired to commit a violent crime or respect their freedom and life enough to not endanger both.

None of that has to do with the poverty you're trying to create. Quick question whens the last time you saw a malnourished teenager in America?

Poverty of the mind is the problem

 

[Neuromancer]

In for the solutions.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

People with morality and work ethic or either to busy working too tired to commit a violent crime or respect their freedom and life enough to not endanger both.

None of that has to do with the poverty you're trying to create. Quick question whens the last time you saw a malnourished teenager in America?

Poverty of the mind is the problem

God you're a dumb person