As violence returns to '90s level, so does response from Black leadership, Oakland NAACP asks city to get tougher on crime/* Mayor & DA recalled

[King Sun]

Nothing he is saying is confusing. He is saying cops started a PR campaign of fear in the wake of George Floyd to eliminate accountability measures and people get flooded with stories of crime to raise their fears and then once whatever police accountability measure fails or police funding is increased, these stories disappear. In fact, violence crime is actually down this year but still above 2019 levels (pre-pandemic), which was basically record lows.

Violent crime is down in U.S. cities but still above pre-pandemic levels, report says

Federal data remains incomplete after the government switched to a new reporting system during the pandemic.

www.nbcnews.com

These dudes only understand white men locking other black men. Dudes on here are convinced the crux of black issues is blacks are lazy and fatherless on a "militant" site

 

[No1]

Because we want this to stop

You don’t want anything but to just be a blow hard and push conservative responsibility rhetoric. Because if you were then you would be spending time talking about things shown to actually decrease crime such as job opportunities, increased funding for schools and after school programs, etc. Instead you’re just in here saying the government has no role in creating a more equitable society that lessens these behaviors.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

I hear you

But it’s not violent crime so I’m not worried about it the same way

Fair enough

 

[levitate]

This isn’t violent crime though

And white women be casually stealing from these stores and the workers be watching them and afraid to say anything

Not worried about this

Doesn’t matter it’s still crime.

Folks taking shyt that don’t belong to them..they should be locked up for years!

 

[CrimsonTider]

Some of y’all are out of touch with reality

Poor people who are really committing crimes to survive are usually doing non violent shyt. They just want to eat and have a place to live.
They’re not hurting anyone unless they feel they have no choice.

A lot of the people committing these violent crimes (especially the young ones) are literally using the money to buy designer clothes and other unimportant material shyt. They want a high end lifestyle that they can only afford by committing crimes and they’re gonna get what they want by any means.

Poverty has to be addressed, but the people that actually live in these areas want a more immediate fix. Unfortunately there is no immediate fix.

It’s mostly gang shyt too. A lot of these crimes are used to fund gang business. The young boys are crash dummies

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

These dudes only understand white men locking other black men. Dudes on here are convinced the crux of black issues is blacks are lazy and fatherless on a "militant" site

And posters like you are hellbent on believing black men have no agency, and can’t decide between right and wrong. It’s all the white man’s fault, as if they are holding guns to our heads, and forcing us to do things.

 

[Fresh]

I hate the term "get tougher on crime"

for whatever reason things get worse when people in power follow this philosophy

 

[WIA20XX]

The Left makes sense when they argue that people are stealing bread (or selling drugs) to feed themselves or their families.
Property crime, be it to sustain or floss, is about resources.

But

The leftists/socialists always try to explain violent crime as lack of economic opportunity.

'Violence is growing': Oakland community advocates search for solutions amid rising crime

A community gathering in Oakland was held on Saturday to support victims of crime and their families. The event comes amid increased concerns over public safety, some saying violent crime requires nothing short of a state of emergency.

abc7news.com

As if every violent act has some underlying economic basis.

• A dude disrespects another dude - that's about money
• Somebody kills a crew member - that's about jobs
• A dude sleeps with another dudes girl - yeah, that's really an economic issue
• A chick gets buck and gets backhanded - You know if was in a good paying job, he wouldn't be so stressed

And they say capitalists reduce human beings to numbers.

Toddler siblings punch and bite each other. They don't even contemplate a market economy - but per the Left, the roots of the conflict are economic in nature...

I mean if we pump enough money into a community, so that it's as spread out as the white community, with very little human contact - I guess that would solve the problem of violence...

Meanwhile most poor areas are dense, and most poor people aren't committing property crimes, much less violent ones.

At their core, the Left doesn't really like to deal with human nature, and its ugly side.

That's why their systems fail.

 

[levitate]

Garbage men, city workers, transit workers, and working your way up in retail too. People look down on retail, but if you can get into management, you can do well. We just want to get to the top right away, and are convinced other groups have everything handed to them.

Factory workers, car mechanics, truck drivers, plumbing apprentice, HVAC apprentice, construction workers, transit divers, airport security,…

But yeah “I can’t find a job so it’s OK for me to steal” though…

 

[King Sun]

I hate the term "get tougher on crime"

for whatever reason things get worse when people in power follow this philosophy

Its not even proven to work and when you tell other "black" dudes on this site to look at the data its back to the same song and dance about black men not being in the house but they never want to look into the policies they led us here since we were freed in America.

 

[Biscayne]

I don't like this shyt where "crime" means "black crime" or is a codeword for black people. The NAACP telling people "it's not racist to speak out about crime" and implying that all the crime in a metropolitan area is black people is some bullshyt. THOSE OTHER GROUPS ARE COMMITTING CRIMES TOO.

That’s what jumped out to me. Why the hell would the NAACP tell non-blacks that “speaking out against crime isn’t racist” unless the NAACP assumes most of the crimes and attacks on every race are done by black ppl. Very weird and passive stance by and older organization. As if Oakland doesn’t have Hispanic and Asian gangs.

 

[King Sun]

That’s what jumped out to me. Why the hell would the NAACP tell non-blacks that “speaking out against crime isn’t racist” unless the NAACP assumes most of the crimes and attacks on every race are done by black ppl. Very weird and passive stance by and older organization. As if Oakland doesn’t have Hispanic and Asian gangs.

You see the game do you lol. Its easier to make black people the face of crime and violence

 

[levitate]

Its not even proven to work and when you tell other "black" dudes on this site to look at the data its back to the same song and dance about black men not being in the house but they never want to look into the policies they led us here since we were freed in America.

Only doesn’t work because we only go half way.

It should be: Steal some shyt? OK, 10 years in prison. Rob someone at gunpoint? OK, 50 years in prison. Kill someone? OK, death penalty.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

You don’t want anything but to just be a blow hard and push conservative responsibility rhetoric. Because if you were then you would be spending time talking about things shown to actually decrease crime such as job opportunities, increased funding for schools and after school programs, etc. Instead you’re just in here saying the government has no role in creating a more equitable society that lessens these behaviors.

So if you give the schools more money, the kids will start paying attention, and studying? So if the opportunities are there, are they supposed to knock on our doors, and hand them to us, or do we have to look for the jobs, and apply. Are you saying the men in these areas are searching for jobs for a couple hours, then going out to commit crime? Are they banging for a few months, stacking money, then opening businesses?

Are you saying there are after school programs in poor white neighborhoods, and they go, and do better in life, and new poor white people move in? Escaping poverty takes effort. Do you see Trump helping poor white neighborhoods?

 

[HiphopRelated]

You don’t want anything but to just be a blow hard and push conservative responsibility rhetoric. Because if you were then you would be spending time talking about things shown to actually decrease crime such as job opportunities, increased funding for schools and after school programs, etc. Instead you’re just in here saying the government has no role in creating a more equitable society that lessens these behaviors.

None of that addresses the people already on the streets doing shyt though. There's no program for the dude with 5 bodies and enemies after him looking for get back. The immediate solution can't be only implement something in 5 years that can show results in 15. Something has to be done about the current state of events. A small percentage of gangs are the actual killers, that's why they become known in the streets...something needs to happen to those people, and it's not a job.