"As far as hip-hop is concerned, it's become so generic at this point....

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Here's the issue for those saying there's good hip hop out there. True. It is.


The problem is, the wack shyt has taken over the mainstream.


Back then, sure there was wack music, but it usually wasn't at the forefront of the genre.


What the fukk is a blockboy j and a lil pump?

Why is that a problem?

The mainstream has always been wack.

We had a little run from 97 to 02 where the mainstream shyt was at the forefront of the culture.

Other than that, it’s always been about the underground.
 

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I will say I'm a little underwhelmed by the current state of rap music. There's a lot of dope music, but the sheer volume of music being released has reached a numbing fever pitch in which everything has started to sound too damn similar.

The internet should've made it easier for creative collaborations between distant music scenes come to fruition, and instead it has only shrunk rap's sonic environment.

On one hand, I can understand that maybe I'm expecting too much from the genre -- after all, truly groundbreaking and vital musicians don't come around too often. So I guess my largest complaint is that it has become to easy to not only produce rap music, but to circulate it as well.

Why am I sifting through all these melodic rappers with gold perms from Broward and Dade county? Am I supposed to act like shoreline mafia ain't just a copy of Drakeo's whole movement? Why the fukk is all these street rappers biting Eastside 80s style while tryna dance like Sada?

What got me feeling like a dusty old head is when I be hearing these youngins coming up, and they all sounding like each other!! Now Shootergang Kony, YBN Nahmir, and Jay Critch all be making some decent music, but is there really a reason why they should all exist in the game at once?? How is it that they all from different ends of the country and their music still sound so damn similar?? Shrinking of the rap soundscape via the damn internet.

Also, mfers gotta stop crooning like Kodak or Youngboy when they wanna rap about their drug addiction or depression.

There's some great music being released, but it's exhausting seeing all the biting and dikk riding going on in the game right now. Might have to put in my application for Larry Holmes garden sooner rather than later.
 

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does he listen to Mach Hommy? if not, he should shut his yapper.
:russ::dahell: why would he be up on who mach hommy is????

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He's done a few guest features on hip hop and r&b songs







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i should neg you for not including his song with ICP
 

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slash was born in 1965, and made the guns n roses album everyone cares about in 1987

at what point in his life was rock music 'underground'?
Nobody in this thread still hasn't answered this. They'll probably skip over it because they don't know how to answer it
 
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fukk Slash and his opinion.

Kendrick Lamar just won a goddamn Pulitzer Prize while simultaneously putting out the biggest ALBUM of last year.

Lupe Fiasco just put out a masterpiece theater collection chronicling dead slaves.

You still have heavyweights like Nas & Jay dropping albums with ZERO “Top 40” hits debuting near the top of charts.

Childish Gambino put out the biggest single/video of the year talking about gun violence and police brutality. His followup single talked about Global Warming and climate change.


I ain’t tryin to hear NONE of that “generic” talk from these old ass Cacs who shytted on the artform when it began, shytted on the artfrom when it reached its peak, and CONTINUE to shyt on the artform now thats its overtaken your long gay ass stringy hair and overrated metal guitar riffs.
 

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What's considered underground these days ain't underground to me cause it's online and nothing online is underground
You know what I mean?
Like how can something really be "underground" when it's online
Tho, I know what u mean and get what u saying
And a lot of the new "good" new shyt I hear, is just like either aight or decent when compared to the shyt that it was inspired from
In that case, I'd rather just listen to the original shyt that inspired the new "good" music that I grew up listening too

Underground the way I see it is rap made by artists that don't cater to audiences looking for the radio to feed them hip hop, that don't follow trends or make formulaic bullshyt.

Artists with a core following they cater to who respect the craft of emceeing and the integrity of the art of hip hop music.

Artists today like Mach-Hommy, Roc Marciano, Black Milk, Lupe, Griselda Records, Elzhi, Planet Asia, Freddie Gibbs, Curren$y, Billy Woods & Elusive, Blu, Big Krit, Starlito, Don Trip, Action Bronson, Payroll Giovanni, Crimeapple, Estee Nack & Davino, Flatbush Zombies, Ka, Earl Sweatshirt, Vince Staples, Fly Anakin, Jean Grae, Quelle Chris, Danny Brown, Noname, Mayhem Lauren, Mick Jenkins, Murs, Rahiem Supreme, Smoke DZA, Earthgang, The God Fahim, Ankhle John, Bishop Neheru, Vast Aire, Hus The Kingpin, Willie The Kid, Elcamino, Gavlyn, Murs, Recognize Ali, etc. etc.

I could go on and on, but if you really love hip hop and aren't just looking for the days when Jay-Z and DMX were dominating Top 40, then I promise you'll be thoroughly satisfied digging through shyt from those artists I named.

95% have projects out within the past 12 months.
 
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Underground the way I see it is rap made by artists that don't cater to audiences looking for the radio to feed them hip hop, that don't follow trends or make formulaic bullshyt.

Artists with a core following they cater to who respect the craft of emceeing and the integrity of the art of hip hop music.

Artists today like Mach-Hommy, Roc Marciano, Black Milk, Griselda Records, Elzhi, Planet Asia, Freddie Gibbs, Curren$y, Billy Woods & Elusive, Blu, Action Bronson, Crimeapple, Estee Nack & Davino, Ka, Earl Sweatshirt, Vince Staples, Fly Anakin, Jean Grae, Quelle Chris, Danny Brown, Noname, Mayhem Lauren, Mick Jenkins, Murs, Rahiem Supreme, Smoke DZA, The God Fahim, Ankhle John, Bishop Neheru, Vast Aire, Hus The Kingpin, Willie The Kid, Elcamino, Gavlyn, Murs, Recognize Ali, etc. etc.

I could go on and on, but if you really love hip hop and aren't just looking for the days when Jay-Z and DMX were dominating Top 40, then I promise you'll be thoroughly satisfied digging through shyt from those artists I named.

99% have projects out within the past 12 months.

But all of the audience is online now, so it's not like their some underground following anymore
Nobody is underground anymore, they all online
From the the cats who make soundcloud music to the cats signed to the big labels and get that extra push besides just their social media like soundcloud artists
I hear what u saying, but in this era, everybody is in the same pool, just some who are signed to the big time labels still got that machine and extra push behind em'
 

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THIS THIS THIS THIS!!!!

rock n roll has been mainstream since the 50s! Little Richard, Chuck Berry, and freaking Ike Turner took it there. Lets not get started on the 60s then the 70s when Led zeppilin and the Beatles were selling a billion freaking rock records, then the 80s with that hair glam shyt which he was apart of, the 90s with grunge and nu metal into the early 2000s with creed and stained and etc.

I doubt Slash listens to rap. If Tom Morello were to say it i may take it seriously and thats a small may

You skipped the Punk and Hardcore movements but I feel you.
 

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But all of the audience is online now, so it's not like their some underground following anymore
Nobody is underground anymore, they all online
From the the cats who make soundcloud music to the cats signed to the big labels and get that extra push besides just their social media like soundcloud artists
I hear what u saying, but in this era, everybody is in the same pool, just some who are signed to the big time labels still got that machine and extra push behind em'

Yeah, they all online, but they don't get all the same looks.

I really don't care, but you and a couple posters made reference to what's being played on the radio or mainstream.

There's definitely a segment of hip hop still considered mainstream Migos, Drake, Nicki, Cardi, Wayne, Kanye, Rick Ross, Em. etc.

Artists who are on all the Hot 97, Breakfast Club, etc. interviews who have a network of DJ's and hip hop media good old boy networks that make sure their music is what's being played on the radio, in clubs, strip clubs, parties, etc.
 

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I love the homie Slash, but he needs to lay off the dust....

Rock isn't mainstream? Bruh, Imagine Dragons have the number 1 with Believer....Foo Fighters "Run", and Rise Against, finally went Mainstream this year....


Also when has rap not being a top 40 thing? Or are gonna pretend that Run DMC and Aerosmith didn't do it for the radio waves? Rap has always been trying to go pop. From Jay, to Big Pun, they all had pop songs. Its cool being counter culture when you aren't getting paid, but when the bills start coming in, you're definitely gonna sell out to whomever wants to buy in....and that's not bad, if you deliver with some bangers.
 
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