As a group. Bone Thugs >>>>>>>Wu Tang Clan

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Bone Thugs n Harmony - Mr. Ouija - YouTube


Revolutionary nikka, nobody was doing this shyt before '94... Wu Tang's Boom Bap rap style aint original, deal with it :rom:

You got it chief. That's all Bone right there - they invented that. Singing on an interlude...or even on a full song...and they're not even singers like that...they're rappers.

Problem is - it's insignificant when it comes to hip-hop.

You should be arguing that Bone's delivery was unlike anything in rap - that's significant.
 

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Yourr a clown. What about Bone attracts a pop audience in 2013?

Was Bone ever the darling of the new york based media the way Wu was/is? Did bone get covers of the Rolling Stone? Are hipster douche bag caks on Bones nuts or Wu?

Does your retarded azz even know why this topic came up in the first place you inbred ape? Its because some donkey said This thread is longer than Bones career, well the response to that is Bone will outsell Wu today so what that make Wu?

You guys are starting to contradict yourselves. @Ronnie Lott said numerous times that Bone has more of an R&B melodic sound. That type of sound is going to be more appealing to a mainstream/pop audience. It's not a knock on Bone - that was their sound - they weren't intentionally softening their sound to attract the mainstream.
 
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lol @ "TO US they were just fast rapping".

no. youre the slow one.

obviously you dont get the gist of what im saying here, even tho it should already be understood, yet i still took the time to spell it out for you.:smh:

I don't think anybody understood the gist of what you're getting at? Please spell it out for us.
 

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You got it chief. That's all Bone right there - they invented that. Singing on an interlude...or even on a full song...and they're not even singers like that...they're rappers.

Problem is - it's insignificant when it comes to hip-hop.

You should be arguing that Bone's delivery was unlike anything in rap - that's significant.

how is it insignificant when tons of rappers have followed their lead at some point, one way or another? whether it be that or bone's brand of double-time rapping.

acting as if they werent extremely influential is foolishness.

Lol when you cant respond go off on a distracting rant?

Ive already woken up, done my morning swim and had breakfast. Squeezed in time to put ya monkey ass in place and now off to work. You sleep in there lil buddy and make sure you eat some cheerios on your way to school lil buddy

yea, thats all dude does.

hes a str8 up clown. just tune him out.
 

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Yourr a clown. What about Bone attracts a pop audience in 2013?

Was Bone ever the darling of the new york based media the way Wu was/is? Did bone get covers of the Rolling Stone? Are hipster douche bag caks on Bones nuts or Wu?

Does your retarded azz even know why this topic came up in the first place you inbred ape? Its because some donkey said This thread is longer than Bones career, well the response to that is Bone will outsell Wu today so what that make Wu?

:wtf:

Wu never got a cover of Rolling Stone. RZA did because they were on tour with RATM, which was one of the biggest groups in the world at the time.

Regardless, Pac, BIG, and Jay-Z got covers too. What does that have to do with anything?

And BONE did songs with Phil Collins and Gwen Stefani so :wtf: at trying to play the race card.

Lastly, neither group really attracts a mainstream audience in 2013, but to act like BONE doesn't have a more pop friendly, commercially viable sound, is :heh:

Again:



:childplease:

Of course they're going to sell more. Look at how they sound.

Fred.
 
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I don't think anybody understood the gist of what you're getting at? Please spell it out for us.

if you dont understand what im saying, then the message isnt for you.

the sad part is, that its already been spelled out by myself and others numerous times. theres nothing more that can be said at this point.

@Big Mel understood what we meant. because big mel is hip-hop.
 
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lol @ people claiming that they dont see the bone thug influence in ludacris.

this is the most well-known of numerous examples:

chit, ciara wouldnt have been singing like this on the track if it wasnt for bone neither.

Ciara ft Ludacris - Oh - YouTube



bone's promotion was never all that. dont compare their promotion to the wu. wutang got way more promo.

and yes, im glad that you remember that. yet, people are in here talking like wutang was some underground underdogs and bone was supposedly some commercial @$$ group.



that album was considered wack.

The album was considered wack (and was wack) but it sold and the single was a big hit. Plus wasn't he locked up when it came out?

I didn't compare Bone's promotion to Wu's. I said both were well promoted. What promotion do you think Bone wasn't getting? The singles and videos were out there. Everybody knew when the albums were coming. Maybe it was different in Philly?

I mean - they didn't get Madonna promotion...but neither did Wu. I'll spot you that Wu got more promotion than Bone. That seems reasonable. Especially the second album.

No one is saying Bone is commercial - just that their music is inherently more palatable to a mainstream audience. In the same way that Doggystyle had a broader appeal than Illmatic. Hell - I still don't fully understand why the Wu blew the way they did. Even with a huge push - their first album was super gutter. I think a lot of it had to do with ODB and Meth being as magnetic as they were at that time.

I was hoping you were going to have some backstory on that MTV special. I tried to find it on Youtube last night but couldn't. I douldn't even find anything written about it.
 

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how is it insignificant when tons of rappers have followed their lead at some point, one way or another? whether it be that or bone's brand of double-time rapping.

acting as if they werent extremely influential is foolishness.

Reread what I said there. I said there rapping was influential and significant. This is the second time I've said that Bone was influential.

The "I'm a rapper but I'm just gonna sing on this particular song" is insignificant.
 

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if you dont understand what im saying, then the message isnt for you.

the sad part is, that its already been spelled out by myself and others numerous times. theres nothing more that can be said at this point.

@Big Mel understood what we meant. because big mel is hip-hop.

This is the kind of response that makes you a self-righteous pain in the ass poster. :youngsabo:

@Big Mel - what makes Wu a "white person's group"? Wacky's being difficult.
 
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@mobbinfms

no, im not being difficult.

you just have a knack for asking stupid questions......stupid questions that have already been answered & discussed in full........and then on top of that, you ask these questions in an obnoxious manner.
 
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@Big Mel - what makes Wu a "white person's group"? Wacky's being difficult.

:snoop::snoop::snoop:

Reread what I said there. I said there rapping was influential and significant. This is the second time I've said that Bone was influential.

The "I'm a rapper but I'm just gonna sing on this particular song" is insignificant.

this is stupid.

they influenced the way rappers spit their bars. you act like they just influenced rappers to get in the booth & sing without rapping.

:comeon:

The album was considered wack (and was wack) but it sold and the single was a big hit. Plus wasn't he locked up when it came out?

I didn't compare Bone's promotion to Wu's. I said both were well promoted. What promotion do you think Bone wasn't getting? The singles and videos were out there. Everybody knew when the albums were coming. Maybe it was different in Philly?

I mean - they didn't get Madonna promotion...but neither did Wu. I'll spot you that Wu got more promotion than Bone. That seems reasonable. Especially the second album.

No one is saying Bone is commercial - just that their music is inherently more palatable to a mainstream audience. In the same way that Doggystyle had a broader appeal than Illmatic. Hell - I still don't fully understand why the Wu blew the way they did. Even with a huge push - their first album was super gutter. I think a lot of it had to do with ODB and Meth being as magnetic as they were at that time.

I was hoping you were going to have some backstory on that MTV special. I tried to find it on Youtube last night but couldn't. I douldn't even find anything written about it.

ol d b's album sold off of name value & his fanbase.

there was no big anticipation for an ol d b album at the end of 1999.

as far as wutang having alot of white fans. its not rockets science. they appeal to the rippity-rapping white dudes that try way too hard to be hip-hop. a wutang show post-97 is no different than a sage francis show.

btw, im not saying that all of their white fans are like this. so dont be offended if this doesnt apply to you.

nah, i dont have a backstory on the mtv show. i thought that chit was odd just like you. but i got down with wutang so i wasnt complaining......but i wont forget. besides, the backstory to that show is probably nothing more than new york priveledge.
 
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Wu never got a cover of Rolling Stone. RZA did because they were on tour with RATM, which was one of the biggest groups in the world at the time.

Regardless, Pac, BIG, and Jay-Z got covers too. What does that have to do with anything?

And BONE did songs with Phil Collins and Gwen Stefani so :wtf: at trying to play the race card.

Lastly, neither group really attracts a mainstream audience in 2013, but to act like BONE doesn't have a more pop friendly, commercially viable sound, is :heh:

Again:

Bone Thugs N Harmony & Phil Collins - Home - YouTube

:childplease:

Of course they're going to sell more. Look at how they sound.

Fred.

You guys are starting to contradict yourselves. @Ronnie Lott said numerous times that Bone has more of an R&B melodic sound. That type of sound is going to be more appealing to a mainstream/pop audience. It's not a knock on Bone - that was their sound - they weren't intentionally softening their sound to attract the mainstream.

I definitely agree that gave them a huge edge in terms of appeal back in the 90s

but are we really gonna sit here and act like Bone has an inherent advantage to getting mainstream acceptance over Wu in 2013? I just dont see it.

in todays day and age, Wu has the appeal because this generation of cac grew up on the back pack shiit..u can see it with the Roots getting props all of a sudden, jimmy fallon, rza being in movies and shiit...wu def has the mainstream appeal today

and yet bone will still go toe to toe with them on sales. hence voiding all this nonsense about how bone aint relevant or their career is done

again i got love for wu. i got cuban linx in my car, nothing like bumping incarcerated scarfaces during through a winter storm on my way to work. i just feel bone is CRIMINALLY un appreciated
 
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