As a group. Bone Thugs >>>>>>>Wu Tang Clan

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:usure: you bugging out on this one. the last two beats, maybe but this one is fukking sick. this record was serious so was the original unreleased version. bone thugs is dope BUT i would have to say that their lyrics at least at the time were in no way shape or form fukking with wu tang.
 

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By general consensus do you mean the media?or the reception around u at the time from the actual people wasn't that it wuz classic?the reaction at the times everybody had that shyt and was talkin about how crazy it wuz,nikkas wuz mindblown..if that wuznt the reception around u at the time I can't blame u for havin that thought I guess....but what r u basin the consensus off of,cuz plenty of folks hold those albums in high regard....if u just basin it off media I can't respect that

Definitely not the reception at the time. In 1994 and 1995 people didn't care about whether an album was classic or not. People didn't care about legacy.

General Consensus is literally everything. Media, random conversations with people. My assessment of people who do hold Bone in high regard. Even this thread and your opinion is informing what I consider the general consensus to be. People arou d me at the time loved Bone - but as they receded from the mainstream - to me - they also disappeared from the conversations about the greats.
 

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Getting back to topic, I will say this though. Wu Tang vs Bone never made sense to me in terms of popularity. Bone was a top 4 rap act in the 90s. Only 2pac, Snoop, and Biggie (because of the whole King of NY shyt) should have even been mentioned in the same sentence as them.

cant argue with that.

Eat a dikk. You got multiple aliases online posting rambling, nonsensical shyt 24/7. Get a life fakkit.

not that it matters, but youre on here more than me buddy.

so if im supposedly on here 24/7, what does that say about you?

and to make matters worst, youre constantly running around this board, cheerleading for a group that doesnt know or care about your existence. its just not healthy.

7 am hummina hummina him caffeine and nicotein....SENTIMENTALLY SCREAM


that's what Bizzy's schrill voice sounds like to me on notorious thugs.


also, i was in a clipse/epmd thread? and youre in need of epmd singles?


New Edition > Bone Thugs

yes you were the star of that epmd/clipse thread.

am i supposed to get mad over the new edition comment?

I can't take you seriously if you don't realize that OBFCL2 was THE album of 2009.

I know you were only 8 at the time, but whoever told you the Wu blew up bc of SWV lied to you. Cream was already a hit at that point (hell - it's briefly sampled in Anything). I'm sure the SWV record helped - but the Wu blew up bc of Cream which was already a hit.

lol at ob4cl2 being THE album of 2009. log off and go outside buddy. PLEASE.

i didnt say wu blew up because of SWV. i said, they gave them a boost. and those songs came out at the same time homie.

You lived it huh? As an 8 year old? You are delusional.

no im not delusional. youre just not hood and you certainly arent hip-hop. so you could never understand.

the funny thing is, i can tell that i already knew more about hip-hop back in those days than you know now. i would seriously fallback if i was you.

and for the record i was 9 & coming out of 4th grade when cream & anything hit radio. i know youre probably not black, but by 4th grade, most of the more astute kids are already off-the-porch & heavy into hip-hop, and i was around alot of older people on top of that. not to mention that i was coppin tapes before 36 chambers even dropped.

Obviously the faster you rap (or even just talk for that matter) the more careful you have to be to make sure what you are rapping is intelligible. To me, Bone crosses the line where style trumps substance. Like I said - with Bone, how it's said it's more important than what is actually said.

Like I said at the beginning - I don't want to speak on comparing the music because I'm not a fan of Bone and I never paid any attention to the music beyond their singles. Like I said - I'm not in a position to judge Bone vs anyone. But I can give my perspective on their legacy as well as the Wu's legacy.

Let me give you an example. I never liked the fugees. I thought they were corny and blew up off an R&B song. I've never heard the Score all the way through or Lauryn's solo. But as a lifelong hip hop fan I have to admit that the general consensus is that both albums are classics and Lauryn was an elite mc. The general consensus, as I see it, makes no such provision for Bone.

no. YOU just cant understand what theyre saying. but then again, you have trouble understanding documented message board dialogs. and to top it off, you barely even heard any of thei rmusic to make such a statement.

stuff like this is why youre not to be taken seriously.

that and your whole "WHERE'S WALDO??" posting style. youre like a lost fish swimming with sharks in darn near every thread i see you in.

word, was just sayin, rest of this thread is pure :noah:

*listens to hot 97 spin notrious thugs for the millionth time

*listens to hot 9 cut it off after biggies verse the 999,997th time

this is the blatant bias that we're talking about.

youre conditioned to spew the stuff that you say. and you dont even know it.

wake up good brother!!

I actually used to interpret Bone songs to my crew. Bizzy included. It's not hard to get if you choose to try. I stopped caring by 1997.

youre killing your own argument.

i already know that you know better than alot of the stuff that youre saying in here tho. but now youre admitting it to the world.

to anybody that says bone thugs is better than wu tang. have you ever took the time to read the lyrics of bone thugs n harmony? :laff: for real, they are NOT saying anything complex. it's actually very simple. their flow and style pretty much is what makes them good, NOT their lyrics. i remember back in 2006, i was reading the lyrics from their first album and i was like "what type of wack shyt is this?" their lyrics were so fukking simple that i was like wow. it sounds so nice when they rap it but reading it made me feel really silly. a kid can write that shyt.

wu tang is far superior as a group.

those lyrics were hot. and those were just str8 gangsta lyrics.

why dont you try reading lyrics from art of war, ressurrection or heavenz movie?

step it up buddy.

this right here is just another walk in the ballpark:

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF0nPhOsKc4[/ame]

16? try 22. double cds were exspensive as fukk in those days. the only cheap double albums i ever seen were in 2000s era, dipset/outkast

i remember spending 25-30 duckets on "art of war" & "life after death"......and i copped them from a mom-n-pop store that had the best prices.

props to master p for bringing in that "2 cds for the price of 1" ish when he dropped "da last don". chit had the 3d cover and the whole 9.
 

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Wu Tang was/is a movement, a culture in itself, BTNH never made it pass the booth, like the Genius says on Paper Plate, he saw a dude at a show wit a wu logo tatted on his face, its almost like a cult following, BTNH was dope but they were no where near Wu's level
 

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I was sitting with the homies Friday and I told them about this ridiculous thread...we laughed for damn near an hour at the thought of BTNH ever being bigger or better than WU....:russ::bryan: shyt is still funny to think about
 

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I was 9 and you should fall back- I was 9 and you should fall back- I was 9 and u should fall back


I have sealed indictments older than that. Dummy cracks though! The juice is loose!!!
 

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@Big Mel, we gonna act like you dont talk big chit about stuff that was out when you were younger than 9?

you love wutang like that, that youre willing to cosign the lost souls of the coli? sad.

and youre ducking the hell out of my posts. dont think i dont see it. i got you on the scope b. infra-red to your monitor.
 
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Typical Wacky D bullchit. Let me take you through how you fukked it up this time.

i know one thing.

wu stans better bow down and lick lee-lee's luciousness because if it wasnt for SWV, wutang would probably be BCC status in terms of mainstream recognition.

i'll do the honors if yall have too much pride.

Here you are at first, making a ridiculous claim that you can't possibly back up.

lol at ob4cl2 being THE album of 2009. log off and go outside buddy. PLEASE.

i didnt say wu blew up because of SWV. i said, they gave them a boost. and those songs came out at the same time homie.



no im not delusional. youre just not hood and you certainly arent hip-hop. so you could never understand.

the funny thing is, i can tell that i already knew more about hip-hop back in those days than you know now. i would seriously fallback if i was you.

and for the record i was 9 & coming out of 4th grade when cream & anything hit radio. i know youre probably not black, but by 4th grade, most of the more astute kids are already off-the-porch & heavy into hip-hop, and i was around alot of older people on top of that. not to mention that i was coppin tapes before 36 chambers even dropped.



no. YOU just cant understand what theyre saying. but then again, you have trouble understanding documented message board dialogs. and to top it off, you barely even heard any of thei rmusic to make such a statement.

stuff like this is why youre not to be taken seriously.

that and your whole "WHERE'S WALDO??" posting style. youre like a lost fish swimming with sharks in darn near every thread i see you in.

Then when you get challenged on it - you try to back away from what you said earlier. So, "Wu-Tang would have been BCC in the mainstream if it weren't for SWV" becomes "SWV gave Wu a boost".

And I'm sorry - you WERE 9. I guess you've got a January birthday then? You do know that CREAM dropped in January? Of course, 36 had been out for a couple months already at that point.

Since you have no argument left, what do you do? You resort to personal attacks! Now I'm not "hip-hop" and you knew more as a 9 year old then I ever will. :smh:

I don't give a chit if you were the most "astute" 9 year old on the planet - you were a kid who didn't know chit from chit at that point. You're in no position to talk about what was going on at that point. Sure - you can go back and listen to the music and debate the music all you want - but don't talk like you were working as a PD for a radio station in 94 when you were a 9 YEAR OLD CHILD.

Also - @StillNotSoft admitted that Biggie was easier to understand then Bone on their record, @Big Mel is talking about translating their lyrics for his crew - but I'm the only one who can't understand them?

Finally - I know you know this deep down - but I want to say it anyway. You are a joke on this forum. You and all of your aliases.
 
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@Big Mel, we gonna act like you dont talk big chit about stuff that was out when you were younger than 9?

you love wutang like that, that youre willing to cosign the lost souls of the coli? sad.

and youre ducking the hell out of my posts. dont think i dont see it. i got you on the scope b. infra-red to your monitor.



i ducks nothin', fukk around and push the wrong button...


Mobb Deep > Bone


Tears For Fears > Bone Scrubs


[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYx8IHJ9dWE[/ame]
 
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Typical Wacky D bullchit. Let me take you through how you fukked it up this time.



Here you are at first, making a ridiculous claim that you can't possibly back up.



Then when you get challenged on it - you try to back away from what you said earlier. So, "Wu-Tang would have been BCC in the mainstream if it weren't for SWV" becomes "SWV gave Wu a boost".

And I'm sorry - you WERE 9. I guess you've got a January birthday then? You do know that CREAM dropped in January? Of course, 36 had been out for a couple months already at that point.

Since you have no argument left, what do you do? You resort to personal attacks! Now I'm not "hip-hop" and you knew more as a 9 year old then I ever will. :smh:

I don't give a chit if you were the most "astute" 9 year old on the planet - you were a kid who didn't know chit from chit at that point. You're in no position to talk about what was going on at that point. Sure - you can go back and listen to the music and debate the music all you want - but don't talk like you were working as a PD for a radio station in 94 when you were a 9 YEAR OLD CHILD.

Also - @StillNotSoft admitted that Biggie was easier to understand then Bone on their record, @Big Mel is talking about translating their lyrics for his crew - but I'm the only one who can't understand them?

Finally - I know you know this deep down - but I want to say it anyway. You are a joke on this forum. You and all of your aliases.

did bcc not blow up? i said that swv gave wutang a boost. i didnt say that they blew them up. what dont you understand? "m.e.t.h.o.d. man" was big before "cream" & the "anything remix".

i didnt resort to personal attacks. YOU DID. you were the one that came in here talking that "i cant take your opinion seriously" chit. the f**k is you on? acid?

what you stay-in-the-house & suburban dudes dont seem to understand is that once you hit a certain age/grade with a certain level of cognizance(sp?) while being exposed to certain environments & people, the age stuff isnt much of a factor. they said age aint nothin but a number/and i specifically remember that song droppin that summer. HOT DAMMIT, IM CONSTRUCTING CLASSIC BARS RIGHT NOW AS WE TYPE OVER THIS CHIT. anything from summer '93 on out, im on it.

im not gonna go back-n-forth with you about that age chit. ima just set it off like this: theres 9 year olds right now whose opinions on the current game i hold in higher regard than yours. and thats not even an insult. thats just real talk. take that how you want. im not getting into these ridiculous internet side-arguments anymore. certain chit just doesnt reasonate with certain individuals.

youre an internet dude. i could care less if you think "im a joke on this forum". my posts arent geared towards you. and even still, youre quoted as saying how knowledgable i am numerous times on here. so obviously, i cant be that much of a joke to you. especially on here where half the posters currently registered here fit that description much better. youre just hurling insults to look cool. but dont get mad when i hurl some insults back that actually stick.

of course biggie's verse was easier to understand. its remedial double-time rapping. and i dont know why youre quoting big mel. he basically killed your argument when he said that theyre understandable if you actually try to understand what theyre saying. yet youre quoting him as if thats helping your argument. dam, youre stupid.

and homie, i have 2 names and made it known that it was me within the same week i started posting here. all this "you have aliases" talk is just dumb-dumb internet kid nonsense. grow up. and most of these dudes talkin smack about it have multiple names themselves. secret names at that.
 
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