As a group. Bone Thugs >>>>>>>Wu Tang Clan

[BaRRyG]

Lyrically he better than all them nikkas and more technically skilled at fast rappin than Bizzy as he has more clarity but lyrically him and Bizzy id say is close to call...only Bizzy and Meth I'm willing to think differently on bcuz its so close my mind could change between the 3 pretty easily....but the rest?no,overall I'm goin with twista....in they primes they wuz both 3 of my favorites but Twista wuz just the boy wuz deadly...I don't know how u writin twista off against these nikkas like he a bum...don't get me wrong I'm last to say technical ability trumps all but Twsistas no slouch in any department...but a hell no to Rae and a fuk no and a no to Gza and no mention of Meth? U obviously see sumthin in them as rappers I never found impressive...ghostface alright with me but I'm not wowed by what he's saying or wowed on a technical level by him,give me one or the other or both.

More emotion in their raps from all i mentioned with twista seems monotone to me just a fast flow, but he is witty with his words tho i give him that...and as of late bizzy has been very clear in his fast flow...i just love that new york street shyt wu used to spit rae's street shyt was to me on some other level shyt

The Source used to be a respectable magazine back in 1994/1995 wonder what their take on it was? How many mics did the Bone albums get?

i think eternal got 3.5 mics and AOW got 4 and Ressurection got 4

 

[Dr.HannibalLecter]

90s BTNH aged like fine wine

 

[Big Mel]

^^^thank Staten Island for that beat, cornball. That shyt is trash too.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

i know more young kids just getting into hip hop who discovered wu than bone thugs. ive never had a discussion on BTNH post 2000 in my life. lotta 20-21 yr olds in her lying. how the fukk you born in 1992-3 and know anything about either group

when '92-93 babies were in middle & high school, bone thugs had hits, were winning awards, and had a platinum movie. meanwhile, wutang was doing nothing but releasing a bunch of irrelevant internet-hyped albums. going strictly off your logic, wutang is basically just an old group whose legacy is forcefed to the new generation by the media. "theyre that '90s group that we're supposed to like".

when these kids were trying to lose their virginity in '07, alot of the girls they chased had "lil luv" as their ringtone. where was wutang at?

This was a much close debate back when Bone was still a group. Honestly, Bone hasn't made any noise since AOW other than a couple Krayzie Bone albums. Meanwhile, GFK & Raekwon are still getting features in 2013, & RZA's popping up on projects with everybody from movie producers to Kendrick Lamar.

If and when they decide to release another Wu album it'll be an event. Nobody is sitting around waiting for a Bone album.

man, you wutang fanatics really do live under the stairs.

wutang hasnt done anything eventful in 16 years.

why you would think a new wutang album would be an event is beyond me, seeing that their last 3 reunions were irrelevant.

So NY bias wrote Bone Thugs out of history but not Missy and other non-NY artists? You dudes are ridic

missy is an industry pick and not a threat to east coast grails.

now please answer the question that dude asked you. why is bone not on the list, when they outsold a good number of people that made the cut with one album.

i remember other names like master p being conveniently left off the list as well.

basically all the artists that east coast elitists go out of their way to downplay. its times like this where im not even mad that the industry phased the east coast out in favor of the garbage coming out of the south in recent years.

Man, stfu. You shouldn't be so pretentious considering that you are rarely accurate. Wacky D, this thread really don't need your drunk uncle at the dinner table antics.

nikkas don't know the 90's because they know Wu are bigger than Bone Thugs? This breh is a retard.

in other words, you dont have chit to say. youre up here misquoting me and resorting to childish insults when youre supposedly pushing 30.

you mad because im breaking up your little cheerleading practice that you have going on in here? you sick freak.

Again, you're inaccurate and prove again, why you should not be in threads posting paragraphs filled with tripe. Nobody knows 95% those Bone songs you listed other than Bone Thugs fans. They had 2 or 3 HUGE hits. That's it. The others were just bangers, just like Wu got bangers. Stop acting like those other joints are BIG BillBOARD smashing hits when they are far from. And I spent my teens in the 90's and was in the military. Traveled all over the US. Met people of all walks of life that could recite Wu songs, and were fans. Big fans. Nobody is denying that Bone Thugs SOLD more records than Wu, but that don't mean shyt. Wu are the better group. They resonated then, and they resonate now. Wacky, where are Bone NOW? What influence do they have on the game NOW? What did they do, other than sell records, that made them bigger game changers than Wu, THEN and NOW? You can't answer accurately. You're gonna go on this long diatribe about Bone SELLING more records (which is fact but don't mean shyt.) and how they have made more well known records as a group (which is false). Go ahead and respond and prove me right. WuTang's impact on the game, in the 90's and NOW are legendary. They are hip hops Beatles. For you to dispute that is expected, cause you rarely make sense, and it just adds to your legacy of posting fallacy.

i didnt list any songs.

and yes, this songs are very well-known.

i never brought up the record sales. since youre on my d*ck so hard, you should know i dont use that as a main basis for anything. when i drop a post concerning sales, its usually in response to some dumb chit that people like yourself try to say.

are you seriously arguing about influence? bone is more influential than wutang.

multiple people have already shot down your little "where is bone thugs now?" argument and proved that the real question is "WHERE IS WUTANG NOW, MUSICALLY!!??" but instead of addressing that, you want to stay in denial and continue on with ridiculous claims. chit like this is why i dont take you seriously.

and homie, i dont care about your so-called life-story.:ducktales: save that chit for somebody else.

Wutang fans just refuse to acknowledge great solo careers is what makes wutang the better brand overall than Bone today...as a group tho they don't have nearly as many classics as Bone...its impossible for wutang fans to seperate the two apparently for whatever reason...denial probaly one of em.

thats whats so funny about this. they know they aint right.

imagine if we were to do a thread about the goat groups. and we're mentioning albums like raising hell, e.99 eternal, straight outta compton, it takes a nation, etc etc.........................and then here come wutang stanboys talembout ironman & ob4cl.

i wonder what these same suckaducks think about the hot boys. its funny how wutang gets championed as a goat group on here based off of solo material but these same dudes never mention the hot boys. if they were from new york, they would be in their top 5s as well.

 

[Big Mel]

Bone made a movie? Lolololololololol.

 

[Po pimp]

Bone has always been my favorite group (well, it's actually close with another group), but in HS, I never understood why the debate was always Bone vs Wu Tang when they were nothing alike. OutKast (my other favorite group) should've been in the discussion since they had hits as well, and ultimately, remained relevant longer and achieved a higher level of success than both Bone and Wu Tang.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Bone has always been my favorite group (well, it's actually close with another group), but in HS, I never understood why the debate was always Bone vs Wu Tang when they were nothing alike. OutKast (my other favorite group) should've been in the discussion since they had hits as well, and ultimately, remained relevant longer and achieved a higher level of success than both Bone and Wu Tang.

See, nobody shyttin on Bone. I personally really like them and hold some of their tracks as my fav of all time, but let's BE REAL. Bone stans just have an inferiority complex when it comes to Wu, in terms of what type of impact and respect they get in the game. Wu are just bigger and had a better impact. More highly regarded MC's and the greatest rap group of all time. This thread would just be like 3 pages long right now if it would've been purged of the trollers, Bone stans and Wu haters.

 

[Billy Ocean]

By the way @Big Mel , your boy did a damn good job on that new Killah Priest album

 

[Po pimp]

See, nobody shyttin on Bone. I personally really like them and hold some of their tracks as my fav of all time, but let's BE REAL. Bone stans just have an inferiority complex when it comes to Wu, in terms of what type of impact and respect they get in the game. Wu are just bigger and had a better impact. More highly regarded MC's and the greatest rap group of all time. This thread would just be like 3 pages long right now if it would've been purged of the trollers, Bone stans and Wu haters.

Like I said, I'll take Bone over Wu Tang. I fukk with some Wu and Wu solo songs, but I never got into them like that. Not shytting on Wu at all. HOWEVER, if any group can stake their claim as best ever, it has to be OutKast.

 

[Big Mel]

By the way @Big Mel , your boy did a damn good job on that new Killah Priest album

I'm sure. You know he did 2 joints on Wu Block too, right?

 

[mobbinfms]

i always laugh when people say this on here, seeing that this criticism applies moreso to wutang than it does to bone seeing that bone actually stayed relevant musically longer.

bone has successful singles and a successful album in recent years. cant say that for wutang. plus, wutang fell to the wasteside before bone in the early '00s as well.

wutang always had their business together so they did a better job at branding themselves as icons. but thats really neither here nor there in discussions like these.

and wutang is not no run dmc or public enemy. comparing wutang's group discography to those groups is a joke.



exactly. im from the 2nd biggest wutang city on the planet, but i realize that the vast majority of the country was riding with bone more than them, despite the fact that bone had less promotion & exposure.



i hate to break it to you, but modern-day wutang concerts are indeed nerd chit. youre just proving dudes point by listing that stuff.

these festivals & concerts that wutang headlines are the hip-hop equivalents of star trek conventions.

and all that "wutang has more critical acclaim and makes more lists" chit is just east coast priveledge.

Weren't you born in 85? Wouldn't that make you about 8 when both these groups came out? Doesn't that disqualify you from talking about how they were perceived back then?

 

[mobbinfms]

Simple. Listen to the infamous and hell on earth. Mobb Deep also have a stronger unreleased catalog than Schnoz.

Wait - I'm getting confused. Is the argument was P a better rapper than Nas at the time? Or who had the better two albums?

 

[Big Mel]

What if Wu Tang were planets?

 

[Big Mel]

Wait - I'm getting confused. Is the argument was P a better rapper than Nas at the time? Or who had the better two albums?

He had more potency and spit the grimiest street shyt I ever heard. Nas was selling out. There isn't an 'everyday gunplay' in Nas' folder.

 

[Still Benefited]

when '92-93 babies were in middle & high school, bone thugs had hits, were winning awards, and had a platinum movie. meanwhile, wutang was doing nothing but releasing a bunch of irrelevant internet-hyped albums. going strictly off your logic, wutang is basically just an old group whose legacy is forcefed to the new generation by the media. "theyre that '90s group that we're supposed to like".

when these kids were trying to lose their virginity in '07, alot of the girls they chased had "lil luv" as their ringtone. where was wutang at?



man, you wutang fanatics really do live under the stairs.

wutang hasnt done anything eventful in 16 years.

why you would think a new wutang album would be an event is beyond me, seeing that their last 3 reunions were irrelevant.



missy is an industry pick and not a threat to east coast grails.

now please answer the question that dude asked you. why is bone not on the list, when they outsold a good number of people that made the cut with one album.

i remember other names like master p being conveniently left off the list as well.

basically all the artists that east coast elitists go out of their way to downplay. its times like this where im not even mad that the industry phased the east coast out in favor of the garbage coming out of the south in recent years.



in other words, you dont have chit to say. youre up here misquoting me and resorting to childish insults when youre supposedly pushing 30.

you mad because im breaking up your little cheerleading practice that you have going on in here? you sick freak.



i didnt list any songs.

and yes, this songs are very well-known.

i never brought up the record sales. since youre on my d*ck so hard, you should know i dont use that as a main basis for anything. when i drop a post concerning sales, its usually in response to some dumb chit that people like yourself try to say.

are you seriously arguing about influence? bone is more influential than wutang.

multiple people have already shot down your little "where is bone thugs now?" argument and proved that the real question is "WHERE IS WUTANG NOW, MUSICALLY!!??" but instead of addressing that, you want to stay in denial and continue on with ridiculous claims. chit like this is why i dont take you seriously.

and homie, i dont care about your so-called life-story.:ducktales: save that chit for somebody else.



thats whats so funny about this. they know they aint right.

imagine if we were to do a thread about the goat groups. and we're mentioning albums like raising hell, e.99 eternal, straight outta compton, it takes a nation, etc etc.........................and then here come wutang stanboys talembout ironman & ob4cl.

i wonder what these same suckaducks think about the hot boys. its funny how wutang gets championed as a goat group on here based off of solo material but these same dudes never mention the hot boys. if they were from new york, they would be in their top 5s as well.

its ridiculous and they know it,they'd never go for it if it didn't work in wutangs favor here to try to pull that shyt,good point with the hotboys....West Side Connection is sittin pretty over RunDMC,Outkast,PE right about now...213 as a group and the outlawz are now in top 5 consideration....this shyt has no limits with them....yeah they had better more impactful solo material than MOST groups u can't dispute that,let's ignore the fact they had double and triple the chances by having way more members of just about every group in history...and let's just acknowledge that fact which I think we all have....no need to continue the discussion til they realize u can't count a guest feature of group member,or solo song as a group hit.