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Because I don't know what he looks like. :mjpls:
 

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Before you fukks even say it...you god damn right "this nikka wrote a book"....:pacspit: I know how you Coli dudes are....:pachaha:

False. A Black man with a degree and qualifications as a much chance as getting hired as a Black woman. But neither of us get a fair shot. The 'discriminatory' hiring practices you are claiming have to do with Black women simply having more degrees than Black men.

And how did we get here? Are you saying that black women are smarter? That black boys are lazier than black girls? Are you saying that, if black men just "pulled themselves up from their bootstraps", that they could be just as successful as white men, but that black women are simply not even in the running because they are women?

My take : The mechanisms that hold back blacks from educational opportunities as a group simply manifest themselves in slightly different ways for black boys and black girls. Slight is the key word here, but slight as it is, it may be there.

You on the other hand....seem to be thinking like a white conservative (when it comes to black males) on education. "Blacks with the correct qualifications get a shot" is synonymous with "Black males with the correct qualifications get a shot".

The most famous recent study about being Black being a hinderance to being hired was conducted by a Black woman. She didn't have any leg up at all.

Regardless of who was a couple of percentage points higher, I will guarantee that blacks *as a group* were at the very bottom. Which is what the point should be.

This is absurd. Please point out to me cases in which the criminal justice system is favorable to Black women?? In the past year we've had a Black woman shot in the head for knocking on someone's door and the culprit is rumored to have a high likelihood of getting off, and a Black woman getting 20 years for firing a shot that hit no one. Again, you are speaking on Black men simply being involved in so called 'criminal behavior' more often than Black women. But when we are in the system, we fare no better.

These stories you talked about are terrible..and I am the first person upset when I see *our* women being treated like dogs by these filthy fukking white men. I have no doubt that white women would never ever be treated like this.

STILL....The bolded is a replica of your above mentality. If black women have an issue, it's *because* they are women. If black men have an issue, it's because something we are doing.

If you can't see how the criminal justice system is clearly ultra-oppressive towards black men I don't know what to tell you. Make no mistake, black women are right there after us, but criminal justice in this country targets black males more than anyone else. We are seen as more of a threat, partially because of cultural issues, partially because of stats, and partially because physiology simply dictates that men in general *are* more dangerous than women.

On that last point...Truthfully..you could make a case that criminal justice in general is the *single* area where women *in general* get things a bit easier than men. Historically, that has been the case at least in regards to sentencing.

You can at least turn on "our networks" and see Black men that look like Black men representing you. It is becoming harder and harder to see Black women darker than a paper bag and without obvious mixed ancestry representing Black women on even Black media.

I can't argue with that.

I still think that media representation is mostly a wash however....:manny: I mean, it's mostly been so shytty for either group....hard to really pick between one or the other.

Black men are rarely given the "sexy appeal treatment" either mind you. I really think this point needs to be emphasized more. Outside of the occasional Idris or Denzel role....the media largely ignores our sexuality as well. The media may only be obsessed with light-skinned black women...but at least they get some play. The media by and large only focuses on white sexuality...those ethnic women you see here and there are nearly always made to uplift white male superiority at some point in their careers.

Black men do have a big advantage in sports but 3 things need to be said :

1) I personally dislike it when we include sports culture into overall media culture; one is based *mostly* on merit and carries significantly less cultural influence (regardless of what fukking journalist try and tell you, athletes are just athletes, they don't carry the prestige of actors, musicians, writers, directors, etc). Sports are sports, media is media, imo at least.

2) One can make the argument that, in this current ESPN controlled climate...black mens prominance in sports is oftentimes a hindrance. You have fukking old cacs labeling young, hardworking, passionate black men as "lazy" or "troublemakers" or "immature" if they fukking celebrate a touch down...it's sickening. This is a completely different subject, but I think it's worth mentioning.

3) A large aspect of sports is about performance....this is another one of those physiological things; men simply perform better than women, so you can't really complain that the NBA is more popular than the WNBA. People want to see the height of human athleticism, and that mostly comes from males. To be fair, black males have always supported the Williams sisters, and other black female athletes when they reached a certain level of prominence.

Of course. Anyone that dare call out an ism that you can't be a victim of is contributing to an ism that you are. How convenient.

It's not about want to be a victim...it's about practicality and loyalty.

What do you think? That black women are actually going to "get something" by tagging along the white feminist movement? That when they finally get that fukking siren hag Hillary in the office that it's an accomplishment that's going to benefit you or your daughters some day?

If black males truly are truly "above" black women somehow, there must be such a small barrier between them that it is damn near indistinguishable.

Black feminism is asking for nothing. All of this petty nonsense aside...what do black men have that black women don't? And vice versa. Lets assume that you are right...black men have some sort of "privilege" over black women...how much higher is our glass ceiling as opposed to yours? Like 5 feet?

The fact of the matter is that black women are the ones here trying to engage in some separate fight...colluding with outsiders and following the leads of cac women. Black men aren't into the "Mens Right Activism", you don't see us teaming up with cacs for our "progress", but some black women think it's okay for them to create a schism. WHY? Because some white women have yet to take advantage of their absolute astonishing amount of privilege and they are dragging y'all along for the damn ride!

I hate to say it...god I hate this phrase...but you seem to be engaging in oppression Olympics....as do a lot of black feminist. Black men speak out on the oppression that our race faces and has faced in this country for centuries, and some black women have to try and tear us apart because they have to deal with fukking weaves and we don't. It's petty and counter-productive.

True. Except we'd see representations of ourselves in our media, we'd have our beauty acknowledged by our counterparts, our individual struggles fought for by our counterparts instead of ridiculed and belittled....oh yeah and we'd earn more for the same work, get promoted quicker, and not be viewed as inferior because of our gender.

But other than that, that's a 100% true statement :childplease:

You'd still be the most unemployed, most locked up, most harassed by officers, least desirable, most oppressed, most despised group of people in the country.

Right. Every reputable study on economics and social standing says Black women are at the bottom but I'll let you tell it, just so you don't have to acknowledge sexism against Black women.

I acknowledge racism against the black race.....
 
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Breh, I've been telling nikkas on this site to stack money for years. I tell nikkas all the time, when you get paper, bytches will fall in line off GP. But every nikka on the planet knows that.

But the bigger issue, IMO, isn't nikkas getting money. The bigger issue is nikkas don't want to be leaders. Even the cats with bread will bounce on some "Y'all on your own breh, good luck :umad:" shyt.

Half this site claims to be balling, but how many of us are actually doing anything to fix the problems we claim to be so angry about?

It'd be one thing if nikkas said fukk it, I don't owe nobody shyt :yeshrug:. But the fake outrage, keyboard activists, and forum revolutionaries are always gonna catch the side eye from me :comeon:

That's why I'll at least give @His_Excellence_Reincar his props. He can't stand single mothers, but he'll at least teach there b*stards kids how to play baseball.

Out of all the posts in this miserable thread, this one is the most slept on. There's a reason why no one has responded to it. :patrice:
 

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There's nothing outlandish about my posts. The women who you "agree" with are routinely on the same side saying the same things as me in debates when Black women are being attacked on here. Debates that they speak up in and I ironically never see you in. The reason you call my posts outlandish is because I identify as a feminist, and you are trying your hardest to fit in with the men on here who hate feminism.

Thats what I find to be truly outlandish, because at least you can say they oppose feminism because it is something that attempts to take their privilege as males away. What exactly are you gaining from being vocally opposed beyond attention from internet men :ld:
get em!:salute:
also i'm not a black feminist. :comeon: i'm a well known CONSERVATIVE and right leaning black chick on here
 

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The fact you think I'm c00ning is the difference between how we think. Growing up my pops taught me if you see a problem, fix it. My pops brought mad dudes from Jamaica to Brooklyn to work for him. Kids who he didn't owe shyt to. He paid their ticket, helped em get on their feet, and encouraged them to ultimately start their own businesses and bring over other cats. He also would send barrels full of clothes, shoes, and food to jamaica multiple times a year. He even opened up a chicken and vegetable farm in Kingston to help provide food and income for the poorer areas of where he grew up. He'dtake us there to remind us where we came from and what our responsibility is as men when it comes to community.

Personally, I place the problems of the black community on my shoulders since I feel it's my responsibility to fix it. It's also why I can't blame black women for the shyt wrong with the black community because we're supposed to be the ones leading, the way I saw my pops lead his community in Jamaica.
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I just wanted a thread laughing at her at her and throwing her in the bushes and you fakkits had to get on your soapbox and ruin the thread witcha essays and pointless arguing over nothing.

If it wasn't for that 99.9% of all threads wouldn't get post the 3rd post :comeon:
 

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2013 Black Feminism = Hate Black men & White women, ignore White men & watch Scandal.

a lot of them don't even hate white women....they just envious of them.

At the end of the day, Black women should be working with us and not adding to divide by being belligerent and following an ideology (feminism) that seeks to keep the status-quo (powerless Black men, vulnerable black women). Black women need to understand that when the Black men collectively gets in the position they will be protected and taken care...they needed to promised that and reminded.
 

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You can at least turn on "our networks" and see Black men that look like Black men representing you. It is becoming harder and harder to see Black women darker than a paper bag and without obvious mixed ancestry representing Black women on even Black media.

Can you at least admit that a lot of Black women co-sign the beauty of women with mixed race ancestry? That is a big part of the reason why mixed race women are representing you....because you allow them to.
 
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