Arrests in NYC plummet as police refuse to work following murder of NYPD cops

[Serious]

This.

They're being strategic. Show the city how much they need them.

92% drop??....shieeettttttt.........lol they're reckless

Hosni Mubaraks security services did the same thing back when the protests were happening in Tahrir Square. They stopped enforcing the law and let criminals out...all hell broke loose and people were crying out for the police

Was just thinking about this, let a few cats out from rikers and they prove their point...

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

how long before these minor arrests and harassments reveal themselves as shakedowns?

Never..a good portion of those arrests and instances of harassment are already considered shakedowns but its highly unlikely there will be a legitimate investigation that exposes them definitively as such.

Its getting to the point where there needs to be a (non govt ideally) Bureau that polices the police and makes sure their actions are legitimate. Cops will always have the benefit of the doubt and can pretty much establish their own precedent for future incidents to make them appear to be a trend and not out of the ordinary. Defense attorneys cant be the only safety net for civilians because they can only deal with evidence presented (hard to tell sometimes if the evidence is legit), have the odds stacked against them going against cops and state prosecutors, and often have to deal with repeat offenders so they have little to no choice but to settle in plea bargain rather than take it to trial every single time. Public defenders arent very good and there arent many lawyers in general who want to go to trial in any circumstance. This stacks the deck against the defendant even more than it already is. The ACLU isnt shyt.

 

[HIVAIDS]

the traffic guys are the worst I fight every ticket

How's your win ratio ? I was thinking about fighting couple tickets myself.

 

[yoyoyo1]

This.

They're being strategic. Show the city how much they need them.

92% drop??....shieeettttttt.........lol they're reckless

Hosni Mubaraks security services did the same thing back when the protests were happening in Tahrir Square. They stopped enforcing the law and let criminals out...all hell broke loose and people were crying out for the police

we don't live in a place where people riot cause a guy dissed allah or whatever though

this strategy will backfire if thats even what they're going for. more likely its just them trying to hurt the city financially

 

[NZA]

and then you see right wingers who whine about big government and obama's "tyranny" treating these cops and their union like saints...

 

[JahFocus CS]

94% decrease.

94%.

What does that say about the vast majority of their activity?

 

[Blackking]

I wish I felt like copying some of my threads..to this thread.

Just so that I could feel like a prophet

 

[Type Username Here]

and then you see right wingers who whine about big government and obama's "tyranny" treating these cops and their union like saints...

Yup. Biggest load of shyt you will ever hear.

They love torture, indefinite detention, PATRIOT ACT, police brutality, police unions, militarized police, Christian laws, and many other things, but turn around and tell you that they hate tyranny and government abuse. They will say it with a straight face too.

 

[Type Username Here]

94% decrease.

94%.

What does that say about the vast majority of their activity?

Police make the local governments money. This isn't new. Crime is big business. Police also allow District Attorneys to have jobs.

Therefore, why would politicians and DAs actually want to prosecute the people that make the wheels turn? They won't unless they are 100% backed up against the wall. You figured the Eric Garner case was that, since it was a clear murder on tape, but I guess not.

This shyt is a racket. In other more civilized countries, there are special units whose entire job is to prosecute law enforcement who commit crimes. That's how those units are deemed successful, but the amount of shyt they turn up. A DA in the United States needs the police union and police to help him get convictions so his resume looks good. It all goes back to the state of lawyers in this country. Absolutely corrupt pieces of shyt.

 

[Box Factory]

But I thought the police were these brave heros who we should respect for putting their life on the line to do their job.

Seems like when their life is actually potentially on the line, they don't wanna do their job.

 

[hashmander]

if the only way a city can provide basic services to its citizens is to impose a racist tax on minorities (that's who are targeted with these bullshyt infractions) then fukk those basic services and fukk the people whose jobs depend on racist cops targeting blacks.

 

[No1]

Police make the local governments money. This isn't new. Crime is big business. Police also allow District Attorneys to have jobs.

Therefore, why would politicians and DAs actually want to prosecute the people that make the wheels turn? They won't unless they are 100% backed up against the wall. You figured the Eric Garner case was that, since it was a clear murder on tape, but I guess not.

This shyt is a racket. In other more civilized countries, there are special units whose entire job is to prosecute law enforcement who commit crimes. That's how those units are deemed successful, but the amount of shyt they turn up. A DA in the United States needs the police union and police to help him get convictions so his resume looks good. It all goes back to the state of lawyers in this country. Absolutely corrupt pieces of shyt.

You ruin every sensible argument you have on topics like these with your obsession with blaming lawyers for everything in the most cynical and narrow-minded manner. 98% of lawyers don't do shyt and are 100k in debt while making 50k a year. Believe it or not, most lawyers actually genuinely believe that most of what they are doing is the right thing. You provide some nuggets of truth and then use that as a justification to leap frog to a final conclusion that does not naturally follow from the preceding premises. I mean even people who fukk with you on here have told you they disagree with that type of reasoning. The lawyers in the US are no different than lawyers anywhere else, they just operate in a different system structurally. Yet, you blame the individuals instead of the system they operate in and end up getting nowhere. You misuse facts beneficial to you.

In what world does the fact that DAs and police officers work so closely together = DAs being inherently corrupt? You are asking DAs to assume the worst of people they work with everyday and who have a general mission they agree with. People do not turn on their own so easily. It is true for nearly every human group setting. Further, there are attorneys with jobs dedicated to nothing more than watching other branches of government, but they are obviously underfunded. Funding DA also equals funding public defenders. But the idea that DAs--who typically have 50 cases or more on their docket at a given time are sitting there in concert with cops specifically plotting on how to tax black people more is laughable. For someone who speaks so much about the law you fail to ever deal in specifics and do not respond when an attorney on here does. The law literally states that disproportionate effect on one particular group is not enough absent evidence of discriminatory purpose. The vast majority of America agree with most of these decisions and somehow you think there is something particularly corrupt in the DNA of attorneys. If we took a random cross-section of any community where these DAs reside and let those people rotate as the DA, then the decisions would not change much. But go ahead, a wise man once said, "Never let the facts get in the way of a good story."

 

[HarlemUSA]

So should I parallel double park that moferfukker sideways

 

[theworldismine13]

is this suppose to be a bad thing?

 

[88m3]

How's your win ratio ? I was thinking about fighting couple tickets myself.

I knocked off $900+ dollars this year. 3 registration, a couple "ramps"( $200+ which were utter bs), probably some others. I haven't gone in person, just online. the registration tickets are like 260+ a piece or something. I bought a new car earlier this year and it had temp regs (with the date on it valid) they still day after day wrote me tickets. they're lowlifes. I pay several k in tickets a year that write off.



I should add that isn't a humble brag, I'm legitimately angry. Park Slope, Fort Greene(wealthier areas that had a survey done google it) a few other places don't have move their cars everyday(once a week as opposed to everyday) and don't get the same level of enforcement. They've also put bike lanes in on some of the streets we could double park on in the past that we no longer can(bike lane parking ticket $180). It's disgusting, it's another way to gentrify an area, it's another revenue scheme for the city/state. I'm also extremely careful of where I park to avoid tickets and so my car isn't damaged so it isn't the issue of me parking like a prick. The level of greed by the city is absurd.