Well you called me a c00n because of my views on this issue so what the fukk are you talking about. How can a black man be a c00n by being neutral on Israel you fukkin moron.alias, stick to MrSomebody
Ariel Sharon dead @ 85
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Feelings been caught
How do you expect me to take you serious when you make silly comments like this
I'm not gonna discuss geopolitics with an ignorant demon like you
Feelings caught, you're the one sending me secret messages showing your disaproval like a hoe. Yea, thats what i thought.Feelings been caught
How do you expect me to take you serious when you make silly comments like this
I'm not gonna discuss geopolitics with an ignorant demon like you
If you don't login with MrSomebody I can't take you serious as a human being
If you don't login with MrSomebody I can't take you serious as a human being
You wasting more time talking about bullshyt then the issues. You have no honor.
I never said french montana was a white guy.
He is Arabo-Berber Moroccan. I have always held this position.
It was that rocky kemet guy who said French is a sand cac.
But Palestine is where Judaism was created....
So u make no fukking sense
huh? what are you talking about?
I said there is already a one state solution (Israel)..Palestinians are living like undocumented refugees in the territories.
I knew I would anger someone with that.
btw, I'm not pretending they don't exist.
What's gonna likely happen is Israel will annex the West Bank, Egypt will annex Gaza strip, and everyone else to Jordan. Palestinians are going to be spread across 3 nation states and will not hold a demographic majority in any of them. I'm not saying I agree with how they are being treated...As I have said numerous times I have no horse in this race...I'm just speculating on how it's gonna be when it's all said and done.
GetInTheTruck
Member
Source that confirms that figure of "10s of billions?"
and anyway anything Israel may accomplish is ultimately financed by the United States. They are our dependent through and through. I mean, you can paint this picture of Israel being this independent nation heroically holding off a bunch of nations that surround it and want to destroy it but we all know that is pure fantasy. The truth of the matter is that Israel needs the United States more than the United States needs Israel. All the current relationship does is undermine our credibility in the region and hamper efforts to build relationships with other countries in the Middle East because of our clear bias which is bought and paid for by interests groups who do Israel's bidding....not to mention it's just another excuse for Islamic extremist groups to incite anger and resentment towards us.
Right, because Pro-Israel lobbyists in the United States have no connection at all with Israel
Yeah Arabs may have a lobby, but the different is they aren't working for a particular country's interests the way the Israeli lobby works om behalf of Israel. No foreign nation should be exerting that much influence over our government, period. That's far from irrelevant.
and if Israel could just ditch us for China if they wanted like you were implying either, why is any of this even necessary?
Before Israel was founded "Israelis" considered themselves Jews first, and residents of whatever country they lived in second ie; Germans, Poles, Hungarians, etc. They never called themselves Israelis while they were living over there.
The Palestinians who you maintain don't really "exist" were always in that land for the most part, the same genetic analyses you are citing to demonstrate that 50% of Israeli Jews are "middle eastern" show that at least 80-90% of the Palestinian Arabs have been in that part of the world for thousands and thousands of years. So what right do European Jews have to flood the land in mass and declare that their claim to it trumps all others? My logic seems pretty sound, and most of the world agrees. Oh, but I suppose that's because everybody is anti-semetic right?
Yes it does, when you claim that Jews didn't care about ISrael before the holocaust
None of that is relevant to the fact that Jews have historical ties to Israel, and not other countries.
So you claim that Israelis are mostly European. What do you mean so what? Are you capable of following a conversation?
Unlike you, I don't base claims on genetics (I'm not racist), so it doesn't matter to me. My point was to correct your assinine claim that most Israelis are European.
Zionists are the ones who sought a homeland for the Jewish people, the fact that there were other candidates aside from Palestine shows that this attachment to Israel that all Jews supposedly have is overblown. If Europeans were generally accepting of Jews they would have never wanted to go anywhere, aside from the religious ones of course.
Why can some Jew who was born in Brooklyn, NY and lived there his whole life wake up one day and decide that he wants to go to Israel and automatically have more of a claim to that land than some dusty Arab kid whose bloodline has been over there for at least a millennium? Can you explain that logic to me? It's that kind of thing that makes the whole "Israeli" identity phony to me, and many others.
Source that confirms that figure of "10s of billions?"
and anyway anything Israel may accomplish is ultimately financed by the United States. They are our dependent through and through. I mean, you can paint this picture of Israel being this independent nation heroically holding off a bunch of nations that surround it and want to destroy it but we all know that is pure fantasy. The truth of the matter is that Israel needs the United States more than the United States needs Israel. All the current relationship does is undermine our credibility in the region and hamper efforts to build relationships with other countries in the Middle East because of our clear bias which is bought and paid for by interests groups who do Israel's bidding....not to mention it's just another excuse for Islamic extremist groups to incite anger and resentment towards us.
Right, because Pro-Israel lobbyists in the United States have no connection at all with Israel
Yeah Arabs may have a lobby, but the different is they aren't working for a particular country's interests the way the Israeli lobby works om behalf of Israel. No foreign nation should be exerting that much influence over our government, period. That's far from irrelevant.
and if Israel could just ditch us for China if they wanted like you were implying either, why is any of this even necessary?
Before Israel was founded "Israelis" considered themselves Jews first, and residents of whatever country they lived in second ie; Germans, Poles, Hungarians, etc. They never called themselves Israelis while they were living over there.
The Palestinians who you maintain don't really "exist" were always in that land for the most part, the same genetic analyses you are citing to demonstrate that 50% of Israeli Jews are "middle eastern" show that at least 80-90% of the Palestinian Arabs have been in that part of the world for thousands and thousands of years. So what right do European Jews have to flood the land in mass and declare that their claim to it trumps all others? My logic seems pretty sound, and most of the world agrees. Oh, but I suppose that's because everybody is anti-semetic right?
Zionists are the ones who sought a homeland for the Jewish people, the fact that there were other candidates aside from Palestine shows that this attachment to Israel that all Jews supposedly have is overblown. If Europeans were generally accepting of Jews they would have never wanted to go anywhere, aside from the religious ones of course.
Why can some Jew who was born in Brooklyn, NY and lived there his whole life wake up one day and decide that he wants to go to Israel and automatically have more of a claim to that land than some dusty Arab kid whose bloodline has been over there for at least a millennium? Can you explain that logic to me? It's that kind of thing that makes the whole "Israeli" identity phony to me, and many others.
your hurting the kid.
ill
Superstar
How can some kid from NY have claim to the land he walks on everyday when its really Indian land? The Indians you displaced would like their land back
This
GetInTheTruck
Member
ill
Superstar
Yes. Same reason you can sit here today in NY and not think twice about the displaced Indians is the same reason Israelis don't care or believe its Palestinian land. To the victor goes the spoils.