Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
if you missed out, then you need to do the knowledge.
Are The 1990s Overrated On This Board?
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if you missed out, then you need to do the knowledge.
I don't think its overrated but as a fan of this shyt and a student of it, we don't give enough props to the 80s. I don't remember the last time I've seen someone mention Paid in Full or Long Live the Kane or Picking Boogers or Live and Let Die. I feel like all of this stuff is at our fingertips now so to say "I'm not up on the 80s" is kinda lame as an excuse now. Lol, when I was getting into the 80s stuff, I had to use Napster and Limewire and similar type of shyt..now you can just YouTube it or get it on iTunes or stick to the illegal life and it's so much easier now.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
people just love to revel in their own ignorance.
I'll listen to some 80's stuff, but like I already said that stuff sounds so dated to me and it's hard to get into. BDP is really the only 80's shyt I actually really like. I mean I'll certainly listen to some other shyt on occasion, Slick Rick, Rakim, LL, Public Enemy, MC Shan, NWA, Kane, etc. But I've never fallen in love with any of that stuff. The style of rhyming and the production just doesn't do it for me.
Starting out listening to 90's stuff, then going back and listening to 80's rap is like trying to go back to a 15" television with an antenna or dial up internet on Windows 98.
I can certainly see how someone who grew up around that music would think highly of it and love it though.
I feel you breh, I'm not into all of it because some of the rhyming to me isn't as dope as I'm used to but I do listen to the pioneers of that era and know enough about them and those albums to have an intelligent conversation about it if need be. But yeah to my ears and to yours and I'm sure other people, it just hasn't aged as well. There are tracks on Long Live the Kane that I can't fukk with but I feel Rakim's albums have aged beautifully along with PE. LL's older stuff is hit or miss with me and I LOVE Licensed to ILL
no but i think the 
go out of their way to shyt on artists today
we have a lot of trash but we still have some really good and creative rappers.
go out of their way to shyt on artists todaywe have a lot of trash but we still have some really good and creative rappers.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
the thing with '80s music that doesnt translate to newer listeners is that its social music. if youre not a social listener of the genre, then its just not gonna translate well. i believe it was @Dafunkdoc_Unlimited that said it best in a recent thread.
the mid-late '80s definitely aged better than the early '90s, and early '00s in general.
and we already know that the mid '00s on out aint gonna age good at all.
i'll give the nod to the mid '90s and i'll play nice and give the nod to the late '90s for aging better as well, but its moreso situational music. as opposed to the '80s stuff which fits basically any occasion.
the mid-late '80s definitely aged better than the early '90s, and early '00s in general.
and we already know that the mid '00s on out aint gonna age good at all.
i'll give the nod to the mid '90s and i'll play nice and give the nod to the late '90s for aging better as well, but its moreso situational music. as opposed to the '80s stuff which fits basically any occasion.
no but i think the
we have a lot of trash but we still have some really good and creative rappers.
I wouldn't say cats go out of their way to shyt on them. It's like this: after a while, you've seen all there is to see with certain things and there is really nothing else someone can do that you haven't seen. I think hip hop reached its creative peak in that era and most cats here feel like there's nothing else they can see that makes them excited and that's not a diss. Most NBA heads always give props to dunk contests from years ago or decades ago because those dunk contests were influential and the contest itself reached its peak probably in 98 or 99 whenever VC did his thing in Golden State. And ever since then, the NBA has been trying to reinvent the wheel because there is nothing else to do that hasn't been done which is why you get cats like Dwight putting on capes or Nate Robinson winning or the team bs they did this year
true , good analogy with the dunk contest , especially looking at this years
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
the nba brought the backlash for the dunk contest on themselves.
they put too much emphasis on players, rather than the teams. and the dunk contest ended up effectted by that in the long run. people only care about the dunks if theyre being done by all-stars. unfortunately for them, most of the best dunkers arent all-stars, and they get ignored because of it.
jason richardson was just as good as vince carter. and nobody mentions him. its like those dunk contests in '02 & '03 didnt exist.
also, aside from the all-time greats, the best dunkers dont even be in the nba.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/i-st...r-squared-up-against-jason-richardson.190907/
they put too much emphasis on players, rather than the teams. and the dunk contest ended up effectted by that in the long run. people only care about the dunks if theyre being done by all-stars. unfortunately for them, most of the best dunkers arent all-stars, and they get ignored because of it.
jason richardson was just as good as vince carter. and nobody mentions him. its like those dunk contests in '02 & '03 didnt exist.
also, aside from the all-time greats, the best dunkers dont even be in the nba.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/i-st...r-squared-up-against-jason-richardson.190907/
I feel you but it doesn't take away from my point that eventually nothing new can blow your skirt up
OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
Is it overrated time? In general no. On here/the internet? yes.
There are a lot of 18-25 year olds on this message board who were not really old enough to fully take in the 90s and the music. While it is cool people go back to an album that hit when someone was 4 years old they can't take it in. So you have people who weren't really around trying to use the 90s to validate their 'Hip Hop-ness' by saying how much better it was. The same people who want to bytch about Hip Hop now to look more educated and 'pure' with all things Hip Hop.
There are a lot of 18-25 year olds on this message board who were not really old enough to fully take in the 90s and the music. While it is cool people go back to an album that hit when someone was 4 years old they can't take it in. So you have people who weren't really around trying to use the 90s to validate their 'Hip Hop-ness' by saying how much better it was. The same people who want to bytch about Hip Hop now to look more educated and 'pure' with all things Hip Hop.
I didn't really start getting into rap until 2000-2002 area.
But you can't really deny the quality of music in the 90's on the whole. It's not that it's "cool," there was just an insane amount of great music made in that time period. The majority of the rap I listen to came out then. I mean there's still great albums that came out in the 80's, and some great ones that have come out in the 2000's, but just the combination of quantity and quality in the 90's is unmatched. And I really haven't loved any rap albums that have come out since like 2005.
And I don't see why you would've had to be there when it released to "really take an album in." If we're just talking about that quality of the actual music, and not the cultural impact or anything at the time, it makes no difference when you listened to it.
Plus I would probably put at least 7 rap albums from the 90's into my top 10. Like I said, not only did if have quantity, but there was quality to go along with the amount of music being put out.
Illmatic
Reasonable Doubt
It Was Written
The Infamous
Illadelph Halflife
Ready to Die
Aquemini
Me Against the World
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OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
Who said I denied it? My very first words say that it is not overrated in general. All those albums you named I was around for. The problem is people forget that not everything in the 90s was flawless, there were gimmicks, industry plants, white guys who were going to take over and ruin the genre, negativity, etc, etc, etc.
Certainly if someone wants to look like a very knowledgeable Hip Hop head and not some johnny come lately listener they are going to cite albums from the 90s that are deemed classics. That doesn't mean the albums are not good but to be like 'Nah fukk Drake, let me know when he makes a Illadelph Halflife' it comes off as hipster-esque and a bit of a put on.
