Are scientist trying to be too smart?

[Perpetual Beast]

Listen don't talk to me about songs cuz I'll embarass you
24 carat gold plaques in my living room
same carat the watch, know the fukkin time
I rap circles around nikkas, on my grind
look at me now i turned out, to be a legend in my own time
they say, general bars he stalks through the night
you can see him in the dark in the ghetto cuz the lights all shot out, shot out
till nikkas put the pot out, till they see the boys comin from deep, its gettin hot out
we hit the hideout, couple hours and we back
too much money out here to be, ANYTHING less than paid

God damn thats shyts expensive !

 

[rapbeats]

No he doesn't and neither do you.

This thread is some dumb smart dumb shyt. Threadstarter has absolutely no idea what they're talkin bout.

actually no. you just refuse to give the OP any credit. because if you do, it will make you look silly for worshiping scientists.

the truth is, the higher the math or the more complex tthe math. the further and further you get away from something with an exact answer. things are approximated, estimated. you start seeing words like infinite.

lets look at it real simple. repeating decimals. 1.78 /12 = 0.148333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333..........

our math says this number goes on forever. the truth is. we dont know that for sure.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

actually no. you just refuse to give the OP any credit. because if you do, it will make you look silly for worshiping scientists..

Actually, yes.

OP doesn't deserve any credit for this thread. I should've stopped at 'are scientist trying to be too smart' and saved myself from reading some dumb shyt.

"As you probably know that they send satellites out into space to get their info. None of these satellites have the capabilities to survive the harsh conditions of the planets. They stated that. So basically they know nothing hardly. They have also stated how big the sun is. But how could they know that? Nothing could get close enough to the sun to accurately measure it's size and how ridiculously big it is. How about all the galaxies? Whose to say there is a lot or a few. Surely no telescope could ever measure that."

Words can not describe how nonsensical and ignorant that statement is.

 

[Drip Bayless]

My question is why did you use TV shows as a basis for your skepticism, without even researching the examples you named? You haven't even researched on how these people arrive at the answers to your own questions, yet you're doubting them?

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

So I was watching a few programs yesterday about space. They were mostly focused on planets. During the programs they were discussing the planets components all they way down to the core. As you probably know that they send satellites out into space to get their info. None of these satellites have the capabilities to survive the harsh conditions of the planets. They stated that. So basically they know nothing hardly. They have also stated how big the sun is. But how could they know that? Nothing could get close enough to the sun to accurately measure it's size and how ridiculously big it is. How about all the galaxies? Whose to say there is a lot or a few. Surely no telescope could ever measure that.

That led me to think of how much scientist actually know.

This same question came into my head while being in a thread discussing pain. How can u accurately measure pain? Of course you can say a bullet shot would hurt worse than a stomach ache but when it comes to extreme pain such as natural childbirth or cluster headaches. How can we truly determine the pain felt unless we have experienced both?




what are some of the things that scientist claim they know about but you actually think they don't? I say space. Everything is mostly theories even though they act like a lot are facts.

damn near everything is a theory... unless it can be proven with NO other options... 1 plus 1 equals two is fact... and no matter how much evidence is behind evolution... it's still called the THEORY of evolution because they can't prove it.. i say that to say, if you threw out everything in life that wasn't absolute fact, you'd have bookS about math and english and 1 book about science

they kind of HAVE to base shyt on theory.. doesn't make it less true.. just makes it unprovable



the rest of what you're talking about, i KIND of understand... but only from the standpoint of money... i cannot believe we are wasting BILLIONS of dollars, going to space for no reason, sending probes to planets for no reason, taking pics of space for no reason, fixing the machine that takes pics of space for no reason, and a bunch of other bullshyt we do.... for no fukking reason

just so nerds can come up with theories about planets that we will never get to in a billion fukking years and watch a pretty light show

i can see launching satellites or gathering info that helps the human race... i don't give two fukks what a black hole is doing, nor your theory on it.... maybe if it was free.... when it's costing billions a year

how in the hell we talk about cutting the defense budget, but give no fukks about wasting billions on a damn telescope that never saved a life, is amazing to me.. meanwhile they cutting after school programs and education, which would actually help us discover some new shyt for us

and this is coming from a nikka who, if i ever hit the lottery, would IMMEDIATELY call NASA to pay them millions to go to space... millions.... go through the entire training and everything... just to go... cause it's that special and i care that much to actually leave earth

but i'll be damned if i feel every american should be paying out their paycheck to see still pics from the hubble

 

[godkiller]

So I was watching a few programs yesterday about space. They were mostly focused on planets. During the programs they were discussing the planets components all they way down to the core. As you probably know that they send satellites out into space to get their info. None of these satellites have the capabilities to survive the harsh conditions of the planets. They stated that. So basically they know nothing hardly. They have also stated how big the sun is. But how could they know that? Nothing could get close enough to the sun to accurately measure it's size and how ridiculously big it is. How about all the galaxies? Whose to say there is a lot or a few. Surely no telescope could ever measure that.

That led me to think of how much scientist actually know.

This same question came into my head while being in a thread discussing pain. How can u accurately measure pain? Of course you can say a bullet shot would hurt worse than a stomach ache but when it comes to extreme pain such as natural childbirth or cluster headaches. How can we truly determine the pain felt unless we have experienced both?




what are some of the things that scientist claim they know about but you actually think they don't? I say space. Everything is mostly theories even though they act like a lot are facts.

Your question is basically the following:Are mathematicians trying to be too smart by trying to solving seemingly unsolvable questions?

The answer is no.

 

[CHL]

damn near everything is a theory... unless it can be proven with NO other options... 1 plus 1 equals two is fact... and no matter how much evidence is behind evolution... it's still called the THEORY of evolution because they can't prove it.. i say that to say, if you threw out everything in life that wasn't absolute fact, you'd have bookS about math and english and 1 book about science

they kind of HAVE to base shyt on theory.. doesn't make it less true.. just makes it unprovable



the rest of what you're talking about, i KIND of understand... but only from the standpoint of money... i cannot believe we are wasting BILLIONS of dollars, going to space for no reason, sending probes to planets for no reason, taking pics of space for no reason, fixing the machine that takes pics of space for no reason, and a bunch of other bullshyt we do.... for no fukking reason

just so nerds can come up with theories about planets that we will never get to in a billion fukking years and watch a pretty light show

i can see launching satellites or gathering info that helps the human race... i don't give two fukks what a black hole is doing, nor your theory on it.... maybe if it was free.... when it's costing billions a year

how in the hell we talk about cutting the defense budget, but give no fukks about wasting billions on a damn telescope that never saved a life, is amazing to me.. meanwhile they cutting after school programs and education, which would actually help us discover some new shyt for us

and this is coming from a nikka who, if i ever hit the lottery, would IMMEDIATELY call NASA to pay them millions to go to space... millions.... go through the entire training and everything... just to go... cause it's that special and i care that much to actually leave earth

but i'll be damned if i feel every american should be paying out their paycheck to see still pics from the hubble

America's insanely high military spending is infinitely more of a waste then the tiny budget in comparison that NASA gets.

 

[godkiller]

America's insanely high military spending is infinitely more of a waste then the tiny budget in comparison that NASA gets.

Well, it's not your money. NASA funding is basically a sinkhole for other people's money. It's a veritable waste of time and money when there are more useful and relevant problems to solve. Let Australia and the European Union search space.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

America's insanely high military spending is infinitely more of a waste then the tiny budget in comparison that NASA gets.

WASHINGTON — NASA's 2015 budget would remain essentially flat at $17.5 billion under a White House spending proposal unveiled today (March 4) that would hold the line on the agency's biggest space programs while laying the groundwork for major new astrophysics and planetary science missions.

Entity 2010 Budget request[10] Percentage of Total Notes
Army $244.9 billion 31.8%
Navy $149.9 billion 23.4% excluding Marine Corps
Marine Corps $40.0 billion 4% Total Budget taken allotted from Department of Navy
Air Force $170.6 billion 22%
Defense Intelligence $80.1 billion[11] 3.3% Because of classified nature, budget is an estimate and may not be the actual figure
Defense Wide Joint Activities $118.7 billion 15.5%

while i agree... our military budget is way too fukking high... it's split between many branches

so yes, 244.9 billion for the army is blowing away 17.5 billion for nasa.. but we need bases, soldiers, intelligence, vehicles to move, food for soldiers, weapons for soldiers, weapons for vehicles, care for soldiers, care for vehicles.... education for soldiers, benefits for soldiers, housing... etc etc etc

what the fukk is nasa giving us exactly??? no really... exactly what are they giving us for 17.5 billion dollars

is the sun working today?? yes??? then i don't give a fukk how big it is.... is jupiter helping out with this rent?? building a new car?? creating cleaner oxygen for us?? no.... then stop wasting hundreds of millions sending fukking probes out there

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

and i'll answer my own question cause i was curious.....

http://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2008/tech_benefits.html


nasa has invented a shytload of stuff

but i'm sure if you gave 17.5 billion to a smart group from harvard or something like that... they could have invented the same things without going to jupiter to do it...

 

[#1 pick]

The rise of dumb smart people is getting high especially when ppl are making assessments for their community supremacy more than actual facts to remain dominate.

 

[KinksandCoils]

Only 2 people in this thread understood my question and point

I'll state it one more time.
ITS ABOUT SCIENTIST PRESENTING THEORIES AS FACTS.

If you can not do experiments on something you can not present it as a fact.
For example.

Scientist can not reach the core of the gas giants but in the videos they were trying to explain the core of them when they can't even get half way through the planet. They were presenting them
As facts not just theories

Just because they know the outer layers of the planet it doesn't mean that the core behaves anything like that.


You fools are whining about the title knowing the title is simple just to reel people in the thread Stop trolling.

Everyone keeps telling me how measurements of the sun are done. But guess what? What if they were off? Oh it's not possible on the Coli.

Even though for yrs and yrs Pluto was considered a planet. From their own definition a scientist can never ever be wrong.

You guys keep thinking I'm saying they are wrong I'm just saying most things about space should be presented as theories not facts.

 

[KinksandCoils]

Your question is basically the following:Are mathematicians trying to be too smart by trying to solving seemingly unsolvable questions?

The answer is no.

No my question is simply something to make y'all click on the thread. Like when people post PAWGS in the title but the girl is huge as hell.

Smh

 

[KinksandCoils]

THIS IS MY MAJOR HANG UP WITH SCIENTISTS. THEY TALK LIKE WHAT THEY SAY IS FACT WHEN THEY CAN'T BE SURE. WHEN YOU ASK, THEY POINT YOU TO ANOTHER FACT THAT IS BACKED UP BY A THEORY.

You and one or two other people are the only ones that get the point of this thread. Smh at people calling me dumb but can't comprehend a damn thread.

This is exactly what I meant.

 

[Turbulent]

"First, it is impossible to exclude absolute certainty in all cases. Any argument purporting to show that there is no such certainty must admit that it is itself uncertain. Further, any such argument must presuppose that argument itself is a means of finding truth." - your article

So you saying absolute certainty is a logical fallacy... is logical fallacy...

But thats according to you... I dont subscribe to Socrates or this dudes theories.

a paradox