Are haitians the diaspora that kept closest to their African roots?

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The group typically referenced by researchers for AAs and the disporan are Nigeria and Ghana, which is whereabouts the bulk of slaves originated.

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It's enough to make it a Creole form and different from it's purer African father.

well eventually cacs and christian missionaries would weather down its purity in terms of symbolic influence, that's to be expected. But don't ever get the impression it started out on some syncretic shyt, breh. It's not as "creole" as you think.

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Vodou is even demonized by Haitians (christian ones) believe it or not.
 
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Genetic studies on African Americans indicate their black component is usually and largely West/Central African, exactly what I said it was, not East, Southern or North African.

What genetic studies?

Fwiw, the Mande people started fleeing Mali in the 1400's and moving into neighboring regions like Ivory Coast, Ghana, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea, Senegal, Gambia and Burkina Faso. So testing for Mande people comes back to Ivory Coast and Ghana just as much as much as Mali. So the only way to truly tell what somebody's ethnicity is to GEDMatch the results. Here are some prelimenary numbers from one website that is accumulating DNA test results for Africans in the Disapora.

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What genetic studies?

Fwiw, the Mande people started fleeing Mali in the 1400's and moving into neighboring regions like Ivory Coast, Ghana, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea, Senegal, Gambia and Burkina Faso. So testing for Mande people comes back to Ivory Coast and Ghana just as much as much as Mali. So the only way to truly tell what somebody's ethnicity is to GEDMatch the results. Here are some prelimenary numbers from one website that is accumulating DNA test results for Africans in the Disapora.

Diaspora Comparison

I'm on my phone but the Oxford university website mentions a study called, "Complex genetic origins of Americans uncovered", wherein African Americans are stated by researchers to have black ancestry similar to Nigerians'. Ergo I am right.
 

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The majority of genetic tests indicates the groups I stated previously. Genes supersede uncertain sources and tell us exactly what people are. When I get home I will post some to prove my point.

what we do know is aframs who had the highest proportion of muslim-senegambian slaves are also the only ones who developed a music-vocal style similar to the senegambian-sahel region. This can't be a coincidence


This is why the Blues is unlike any other music in the diaspora. It has more of a connection to "Griot" or "Sahelian" West Africa that the drum dominated or the region which is dominated by asymmetrical timeline patterns.

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A comparison between the Upper West African influenced Blues and the lower West/Central African drum based Cuban music


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The most expansive study I've seen admits that it is impossible to genetic identify by tribe/location. Records are far more reliable.

That study is wrong. Plenty of studies have found, analyzed and reliably matched and compared the black AA portion of AA DNA to regions as well as tribes. It's conceptual ly easy so long as one has enough samples.

Above I posted one study posted on the Oxford website which does just that.
 
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