Apple Employees Criticize Work-from-Home Policy in Open Letter

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Not sure if it should be mandated but missing out on face time and building is hard to do at home.

I was just thinking how disconnected I've become from some of my work peers not on my team over the past 2 years
I manage several large teams and the work at the entry and junior level is atrocious. Basic etiquette, communication, and professionalism is lacking.
 

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i mean, lets be honest about work from home :dead: it doesnt result in people doing the best work

everyone at my job is definitely cheating and bullshytting on the phone, because no ones gonna catch them in their own house

and as much as i love WFH, im not that skilled that my company couldnt eventually replace me with a few napoleons :hubie: so workers should tread carefully

companies better embrace hybrid instead of the 5-day tho. you can get plenty of interaction in 2 days a week. the 5 day commute is dead
 

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i mean, lets be honest about work from home :dead: it doesnt result in people doing the best work

everyone at my job is definitely cheating and bullshytting on the phone, because no ones gonna catch them in their own house

and as much as i love WFH, im not that skilled that my company couldnt eventually replace me with a few napoleons :hubie: so workers should tread carefully

companies better embrace hybrid instead of the 5-day tho. you can get plenty of interaction in 2 days a week. the 5 day commute is dead

Creh, WFH is the new norm.
 

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While plenty of teams work fine remote, I also don’t think it’s too much to ask people be in office 3 days a week. Apple was a very in-person culture before the pandemic, they have fukking shuttles so you don’t even need to drive. This just seems like entitled whining, companies did what they had to during the pandemic but that doesn’t mean it was how they wanted to operate. So you were productive the last 2 years, great, now come back to the office and be productive. Futhermore, you won’t find sympathy for tech workers making 200k-1M+ who also have the most state of the art offices and facilities, this ain’t some dundler and mifflin office in podunk Iowa.

I’d take issue with anyone demanding me to be in the office 5 days a week (solely because I haven’t had a job like that since 2013), but it’s 3 days…get over yourselves

Like someone else said, those employees can kick rocks then. Apple has no shortage of applicants and top talent in their pipelines. I know average ass mid career/non exec workers there literally making 600k-1M+/yr based on stock grants/appreciation, they can cry, but ain’t nobody walking away from that because they have to take a private shuttle to their office 3/days a week. That is Apple’s post covid - instead of 5 days, it’s 3

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i mean, lets be honest about work from home :dead: it doesnt result in people doing the best work

everyone at my job is definitely cheating and bullshytting on the phone, because no ones gonna catch them in their own house

and as much as i love WFH, im not that skilled that my company couldnt eventually replace me with a few napoleons :hubie: so workers should tread carefully

companies better embrace hybrid instead of the 5-day tho. you can get plenty of interaction in 2 days a week. the 5 day commute is dead
You need to be in the office with someody over your shoulder for you to do your work?
 

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No, I’m in marketing, but I manage a team

edit: and as a black woman in tech, I found it immensely helpful to be in the office in my early days as finding advocates and mentors meant getting to know managers and execs that I would never interact with in my day to day work - which is all young employees are doing, attending the specific zoom meetings where they’re needed while not meeting people beyond their team or project
Im a business analyst. So in office is not needed for me. But i can understand your point with you being in marketing.
 

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Let’s be real about this: Folks just want to watch Netflix, take naps and drink wine while working.
That and many of these Bay Area tech workers want their cake and eat it too. They want Bay Area salaries that they can take to Utah, Arizona, Texas, Idaho, etc. while that’s the dream, that shyt ain’t fair to the locals in those areas. Companies making people come back slows down some of the inequality migration
 

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i get where companies are coming from, especially companies with a campus like apple, google, facebook, salesforce, etc. they invested a lot of money into that and i'm sure there are incentives from the city with tax breaks and what not. going in the office 2-3 times a week isn't bad, especially when you have a lot of amenities. i think the biggest problem is a lot of people moved far away and are probably locked in a lease or bought a house. i say force them back because they're killing other states that can't compete with these transplant salary.
 
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