Apple Employees Criticize Work-from-Home Policy in Open Letter

[TRUEST]

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

i mean, lets be honest about work from home it doesnt result in people doing the best work

everyone at my job is definitely cheating and bullshytting on the phone, because no ones gonna catch them in their own house

and as much as i love WFH, im not that skilled that my company couldnt eventually replace me with a few napoleons so workers should tread carefully

companies better embrace hybrid instead of the 5-day tho. you can get plenty of interaction in 2 days a week. the 5 day commute is dead

I think this is a myth. People bullshyt A LOT in the office too.

I did an analysis at my last job and productivity actually went up they moves to WFH. Did a few people get fired for bullshytting? Sure, but overall it was fine.

I agree you miss out on the in-person relationship building, but the productivity thing seems driven by fear.

 

[Unemployed GM]

Let’s be real about this: Folks just want to watch Netflix, take naps and drink wine while working.

Those ain’t the only things we doing.

 

[Unemployed GM]

Yes, I enjoy my coworkers, made lifelong friendships at 2 of my last 4 jobs. But I also miss the relationship building that makes my job as a product marketer easier - I deal with a lot of different departments and while it sucks, reality is those personal connections are how I get people to execute what I need from them.

that said, I’ve never advocated for 5 days/week as I’d never work that myself

That office politics shyt is dead shorty. If you need some some “relationship building” we can do that after work. We ain’t got to come to no office.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

I think this is a myth. People bullshyt A LOT in the office too.

I did an analysis at my last job and productivity actually went up they moves to WFH. Did a few people get fired for bullshytting? Sure, but overall it was fine.

I agree you miss out on the in-person relationship building, but the productivity thing seems driven by fear.

Productivity can go up while people are bullshyttin more

my ex worked for Apple (while I was unemployed) and it was a sweet deal. Some days she’d work more some less, but she’d always get her stuff done+ we could smash/smoke/do house shyt virtually whenever.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

That office politics shyt is dead shorty. If you need some some “relationship building” we can do that after work. We ain’t got to come to no office.

No one is talking politics…but it’s not dead. That’s why companies are having people come back to the office, furthermore every indicator says we’re heading into a cycle of layoffs, at least in tech, that’s the leverage companies need to get people back in office. Hope folks enjoyed it because the job market was crazy for the last 3 years, but the pendulum is about to swing again.

 

[IrateMastermind]

simple translation for any Apple explanation: we spent all this money on the new office and need to justify the cost.

 

[bnew]

Like someone else said, those employees can kick rocks then. Apple has no shortage of applicants and top talent in their pipelines. I know average ass mid career/non exec workers there literally making 600k-1M+/yr based on stock grants/appreciation, they can cry, but ain’t nobody walking away from that because they have to take a private shuttle to their office 3/days a week. That is Apple’s post covid - instead of 5 days, it’s 3

even apple had to fallback some.



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Last month, after the departure of several high-profile executives, Apple walked back its three-day-a-week return-to-the-office policy, which had been slated to go into effect in late May. The company cited the rising number of COVID-19 cases, but the real reason, it seems, was simply that employees didn’t want to. (They’re still required to come in twice a week, making COVID a pretty weak excuse for the policy shift.) Apple is only the latest and highest-profile company to discover that the three-day office week — that eminently reasonable-sounding middle ground for which proposals were widely circulated last year, and subsequently was championed by Mayor Eric Adams, office landlords, and CEOs everywhere — is, in practice, kind of a flop.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

even apple had to fallback some.



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This is old, and they may not have gotten 3, but they can get there when this recession hits. Again, y’all are missing the way apple operated before Covid, they were a highly in person culture. If executives there want people back 3 days, they’ll get it. Apple, Netflix and Amazon have very distinct ways of operating. Google too, they’ve cut remote listings and aren’t easily approving permanent remote.

 

[greenvale]

Apple wants workers back in the office 3 days a week starting Sept. 5: reports
Check out this article from MarketWatch - Apple wants workers back in the office 3 days a week starting Sept. 5: reports

Looks like Apple will get their way. who didn’t see this coming

 

[bnew]

 

[JetFueledThoughts]

Apple Employees Criticize Work-from-Home Policy in Open Letter


They said that Apple's reasons for implementing the policy don't stand up, and that the policy is wasteful, inflexible and will lead to a "younger, whiter, more male-dominated, more neuro-normative, more able-bodied" workforce. "You have characterized the decision for the Hybrid Working Pilot as being about combining the "need to commune in-person" and the value of flexible work," the letter states. "But in reality, it does not recognize flexible work and is only driven by fear. Fear of the future of work, fear of worker autonomy, fear of losing control."

Listen man forcing people to come into the office is an archaic model, but whenever I hear shyt like the bolded I’m just like

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

This is old, and they may not have gotten 3, but they can get there when this recession hits. Again, y’all are missing the way apple operated before Covid, they were a highly in person culture. If executives there want people back 3 days, they’ll get it. Apple, Netflix and Amazon have very distinct ways of operating. Google too, they’ve cut remote listings and aren’t easily approving permanent remote.

Everyone who was arguing with me

Apple wants workers back in the office 3 days a week starting Sept. 5: reports
Check out this article from MarketWatch - Apple wants workers back in the office 3 days a week starting Sept. 5: reports

Looks like Apple will get their way. who didn’t see this coming

 

[ogc163]

Opinion | Is the Remote Work Revolution Flopping, Succeeding or Both?

Anne Helen Petersen and Charlie Warzel discuss how the great retreat from office life could make work better for everyone.

www.nytimes.com

 

[IrateMastermind]

Everyone who was arguing with me

Outside of hopes and dreams I dont know how anyone could convince themselves apple wouldn’t win.