AOC asked her followers who voted for both her and Trump why they did it? The responses are interesting to say the least.

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I have to imagine Newsom does well against Vance, especially if Trump's next term is chaotic.

Only problem is, Newsom is governor of a state with high taxes, high cost of living, high visible homelessness, and various unpopular progressive policies. So he would be targeted a lot for this.
oh, i don't want Newsom at all in 2028. i want Shapiro out of PA

Newsom was '24 or bust. his career is over. he doesn't even have a Senate path he can go for
 

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housing hasn't, at all. and apparently groceries haven't (although i don't notice that, so i think that's just people bytching. groceries are not that bad right now.)

either way, biden/harris was thoroughly rejected. we didn't even win the popular vote :mjlol:

A lot of the "groceries are expensive!" sentiment is pushed by right wing millionaire podcasters/influencers who buy luxury groceries and intentionally lie to their audiences


As for housing ; Walz was on the ticket and his state has tackled the housing issue successfully. Republicans are generally NIMBYs and block new housing development other than suburban tract housing.
 

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In your own words, how was Bernie screwed?

Bernie bros are mad they lost, fairly.
Superdelegates pledging for Clinton early in the primary campaign. public perception was that Clinton held a commanding lead before many states even held their votes. this could be seen as the democratic establishment choosing the candidate instead of letting the people decide in state votes. it's not literally "the DNC" but the people who were superdelegates are all party bigwigs and made up the majority of important DNC membership so it's basically the same thing. The backlash against this was so strong, it caused a rules change at the convention where Bernie lost, to prevent the same thing from happening again. Now superdelegates are awarded based on state primary results in the first round (at the convention) and then are free to vote for whomever if there's a second round.

But forget all of that what about what the courts said:
 

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A lot of the "groceries are expensive!" sentiment is pushed by right wing millionaire podcasters/influencers who buy luxury groceries and intentionally lie to their audiences


As for housing ; Walz was on the ticket and his state has tackled the housing issue successfully. Republicans are generally NIMBYs and block new housing development other than suburban tract housing.
This is true but I just looked at something saying Austin Texas has also tackled it's housing problem too and Texas is def Republican.
 

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Superdelegates pledging for Clinton early in the primary campaign. public perception was that Clinton held a commanding lead before many states even held their votes. this could be seen as the democratic establishment choosing the candidate instead of letting the people decide in state votes. it's not literally "the DNC" but the people who were superdelegates are all party bigwigs and made up the majority of important DNC membership so it's basically the same thing. The backlash against this was so strong, it caused a rules change at the convention where Bernie lost, to prevent the same thing from happening again. Now superdelegates are awarded based on state primary results in the first round (at the convention) and then are free to vote for whomever if there's a second round.

But forget all of that what about what the courts said:
He really thought people forgot or something. lol
 

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Superdelegates pledging for Clinton early in the primary campaign. public perception was that Clinton held a commanding lead before many states even held their votes. this could be seen as the democratic establishment choosing the candidate instead of letting the people decide in state votes. it's not literally "the DNC" but the people who were superdelegates are all party bigwigs and made up the majority of important DNC membership so it's basically the same thing. The backlash against this was so strong, it caused a rules change at the convention where Bernie lost, to prevent the same thing from happening again. Now superdelegates are awarded based on state primary results in the first round (at the convention) and then are free to vote for whomever if there's a second round.

But forget all of that what about what the courts said:

He really thought people forgot or something. lol

superdelegates could do that, thats the entire point. The fact bernie bros bytched about didn’t mean it violated the bylaws of the party.

Your own link supports this. Nothing outside of party rules was broken. Had bernie actually been a member of the party, he’d have tried to use his DECADES of political experience to woo party delegates. He didn’t then cried when he lost.
 

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superdelegates could do that, thats the entire point. The fact bernie bros bytched about didn’t mean it violated the bylaws of the party.

Your own link supports this. Nothing outside of party rules was broken. Had bernie actually been a member of the party, he’d have tried to use his DECADES of political experience to woo party delegates. He didn’t then cried when he lost.

Donna Brazile seems confused on the subject. But lemme guess you know more than her. :mjlol:
 

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superdelegates could do that, thats the entire point. The fact bernie bros bytched about didn’t mean it violated the bylaws of the party.

Your own link supports this. Nothing outside of party rules was broken. Had bernie actually been a member of the party, he’d have tried to use his DECADES of political experience to woo party delegates. He didn’t then cried when he lost.
That's the point though. Why try and sway the public when you could just let it play out with the voters. They also tried to do it to Obama too but he was just too good of a candidate.
 

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Donna Brazile seems confused on the subject. But lemme guess you know more than her. :mjlol:
Donna likes to pander to people although she’ll admit nothing wrong was done. That “rigged” language is political chum to disaffected idiots.

If this was the case, you’d have chosen a better example than a judge refuting your own example
 

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That's the point though. Why try and sway the public when you could just let it play out with the voters. They also tried to do it to Obama too but he was just too good of a candidate.
The entire superdelegate system existed before Bernie’s campaign…hell, barely before I was born

 
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