Anyone Seen Django?

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yep, the entire film took a big shytload of a dump on ever Southern, Confederate flag wavin CAC that still subs to a racist agenda today. I think the use of the N-word was a bait & switch tool he used on them. Though I didn't like the method. He was basically saying, "THIS IS WHO YOU ARE & I ain't gonna hide it for no one." He just held a big mirror up to their face except all of us were standing behind them in the distance :scusthov: @ their nakedness. Just about the entire movie was insulting to Cacs. :blessed:

QT made them be what they are today, & showed what they were like yesterday & then proceeded to Exploded their brains on the walls. :heh:




Roots was hardcore for its day but watching the film back it was white washed to a certain extent. You gonna tell me that black man wouldn't have whipped that whiteman to death once he knew he had the chance to get back at him :comeon: Black people despised Cacs back then, he would have shot those men & even when they got away at the end...they would have blown those cacs faces off to do it. It would not have been a peaceful way to escape slavery back then, especially with both sides holding guns. Now the Kunta Kenta parts...QT is way off base, that moved me & still does to this very day.

I just saw roots in its entirety this weekend and said the same shyt when Tom just rode away wit the FAM. fukk that "turn the other cheek" "we're better than them" motif. Ida emptied the whip on that cac, shyt woulda been torn to shreds. His whole back woulda been gone.

I like Django and all, but QT was dumb as hell to say that without at least following up as to why
 

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here's the full context:

Quentin Tarantino on Django Unchained and the Problem with

Quentin Tarantino on Django Unchained and the Problem with ‘Roots’

Good friends can talk about anything, and for director Quentin Tarantino and producer/director Reginald Hudlin, anything usually included long, good-natured chats about the mechanics of the African-American slave trade.

The lack of a respectable film detailing the impact of slavery on this country fascinated both die-hard film buffs. Eventually both men—who met on the set of Jackie Brown in 1997—became obsessed with the idea of crafting a no-nonsense, somewhat entertaining film detailing the lesser known aspects of slavery. After one conversation with Hudlin stuck in his mind, Tarantino went to work on an all-or-nothing script. Six months later, *Django Unchained was born.

Set in the South just two years before the Civil War, Django Unchained (in theaters Dec. 25) somehow masterfully manages to present the haunting brutality of slavery while also infusing an outlandish humor only Tarantino could bring to the big screen. Moviegoers will be treated to the often controversial director’s deep love for the spaghetti western genre along with a blazing narrative of one man’s desire for vengeance and love. After being freed by a German bounty hunter, Django (Jamie Foxx) helps him track down a few bad guys for profit and then goes on a mission to find and free his enslaved wife (Kerry Washington).

“I was always amazed so many Western films could get away with not dealing with slavery at all,” says Tarantino, sitting in Todd-AO studios in Los Angeles where he was attempting to whittle the film to under three hours just after Thanksgiving. “Hollywood didn’t want to deal with it because it was too ugly and too messy. But how can you ignore such a huge part of American history when telling a story in that time period? It made no sense.”

It didn’t make much sense to Hudlin either. The director of the popular ’90s films House Party and Boomerang says he was baffled by the sugarcoated and abbreviated tales. “I hated all those films about slavery over the years. Any time Hollywood did deem it OK to talk about slavery, they were not worth watching,” says Hudlin, who is Django Unchained’s executive producer. “My idea of a great slave movie was Spartacus. Until African-American slavery was treated in that same manner, I had no interest in hearing what Hollywood had to say about the issue.”

With only two years of age separating Tarantino and Hudlin, they watched the same slavery-themed films as young kids—and then grew to hate them as adults. Titles such as Mandingo and *Uncle Tom’s Cabin roll off their tongues with joint eye rolls and audible sighs. The not*able period film Glory, starring Denzel Washington and Morgan Freeman as freed slaves serving in the U.S. Army, gets an honorable mention nod from Hudlin.

“I liked the black characters in Glory,” says Hudlin, whose great-grandfather was a conductor on the Underground Railroad. “Didn’t see the point of the white ones. The true story was the slaves in the film. They should have been the main focal point of the entire plot. But somehow no one figured that out.”

The faults of Glory aside, not much compares to the anger both men harbor toward the landmark television miniseries Roots. Written by Alex Haley and hailed in 1977 for telling the “complete” story of slavery, Roots remains the third most-watched miniseries of all time. It is also still considered the definitive mainstream portrait of slavery in the U.S.

“When you look at Roots, nothing about it rings true in the storytelling, and none of the performances ring true for me either,” says Tarantino. “I didn’t see it when it first came on, but when I did I couldn’t get over how oversimplified they made everything about that time. It didn’t move me because it claimed to be something it wasn’t.”

While many white directors might shy away from criticizing such an iconic symbol of African-American culture, *Tarantino doesn’t hold back. He’s confident in his knowledge of a time and subject most people know little about and would rather forget. He was also savvy enough to bring Hudlin on board. “There were times when I’d be filming a scene and really getting into it and Reg would just say, ‘Hey is this the story you wanted to tell?’ He’d bring the focus back if I got too carried away.”

One thing both men agreed on was a scene in Roots that served as an example of what not to do in Django Unchained. The last act of the final episode features the character Chicken George being given the opportunity to beat his slave master and owner in much the same way he’d been punished and tormented. In the end the character chooses not to so he can be “the bigger man.”

“Bulls--t,” exclaim both Tarantino and Hudlin in unison as they discuss the absurdity of the scene. “No way he becomes the bigger man at that moment,” says Tarantino. “The powers that be during the ’70s didn’t want to send the message of revenge to African-Americans. They didn’t want to give black people any ideas. But anyone knows that would never happen in that situation. And in Django *Unchained we make that clear.”

Tarantino recalls a memorable scene where Jamie Foxx’s character is also given the opportunity to beat his former owner after he becomes a free man. “It was an emotional day on set and everyone was talking about how brutal it was because he beats the white off of his captor,” says Tarantino unapologetically. “There was no way that wasn’t going to be a part of the movie.”

Foxx shines as a man driven to punish those who tortured him, while also yearning for his wife, who was sold to another plantation years before. “It’s really important that this story is also a love story about a black man and a black woman,” says Hudlin. “In the midst of all the horrible things going on during that time, this man was in love and wanted his wife back. You don’t see black men in love too much on the big screen in slavery days, or modern times either.”

In a film already full of twists (not to mention costars Samuel L. Jackson and Christoph Waltz), Leonardo DiCaprio throws the ultimate punch portraying the young, handsome, rich plantation owner Calvin Candie. He owns Candyland plantation, where Django’s wife is being held, and thrives on the suffering he causes. The role is a marked departure for DiCaprio, who has spoken about how difficult the subject matter was to read, act, and convey on the big screen.

“He really embodied that entitled young male character perfectly,” says Tarantino. “His grandfather owned and made the plantation successful and his father kept it going in the movie. But DiCaprio’s character is just this kid who’s done nothing for the life he’s living. He’s living it up all the way with his decadence and greed, with no concern for how he got it.”

But neither an A-list cast nor *Tarantino’s past box office hits will be enough to save Django Unchained if moviegoers decide not to support a film that focuses so intensely on one of America’s darkest hours. Slavery is a subject both black and white audiences tend to avoid in theaters. Yet Tarantino and Hudlin say the timing for Django Unchained couldn’t be better.

“The dynamics of the country are changing and people are talking about that,” says Tarantino. “This time in history is a part of that conversation, and I love that we’re out there talking about it in the middle of the other films about Lincoln and whoever. I may take flak but I always do on some level with my work. Wouldn’t be a Tarantino film without some flak and criticism. I bet anyone who sees the film won’t be able to forget it—and that’s the point.”
 

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"Roots" is inauthentic. But a Slave in the 1800's with a perfect Shape Up is?

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Yep Clippers in the 1800's QT, real Authetic.
 

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QUENTIN TARANTINO: "ROOTS WAS INAUTHENTIC"

The fearless — some might say reckless — director says that Alex Haley’s “Roots” is “inauthentic.”

Yes, clutch your pearls and grab the smelling salts. “Roots,” that Black cultural touchstone that makes White Americans glance at their Black comrades with trepidation after BET plays it on repeat over the holidays, has been deemed “inauthentic” by white as the driven snow Tarantino.

“When you look at Roots, nothing about it rings true in the storytelling, and none of the performances ring true for me either,” said Tarantino. “I didn’t see it when it first came on, but when I did I couldn’t get over how oversimplified they made everything about that time. It didn’t move me because it claimed to be something it wasn’t.”

But slavery contextualized as a Spaghetti Western is authentic storytelling?



So let me get this straight QT, "Roots" which was about a REAL Black Family and a Real Black Story is Inauthentic, but Django is? SMH

Did he say Django was authentic? OR did he just say Roots was inauthentic?

There's a difference there
 

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I just saw roots in its entirety this weekend and said the same shyt when Tom just rode away wit the FAM. fukk that "turn the other cheek" "we're better than them" motif. Ida emptied the whip on that cac, shyt woulda been torn to shreds. His whole back woulda been gone.

I like Django and all, but QT was dumb as hell to say that without at least following up as to why

or what about the part when the lil boy saw what they did to his daddy, went out side mad & crying then said "I hate white people, I'm kill'em." Then the cac lady gon' say 'but you couldn't see their faces, & what if you kill the wrong one." The lil boy insisted..."I'ma kill'em." Cac lady, 'Well you might as well start with me. I love you all & my husband is trying to help.' Then the lil boy says, 'Not you Mrs. so & so, I didn't mean you & hugs her.'

:beli: if that was not a blatant attemp at shaping black folks mind to not even try to get 'revenge' then I don't know what it is. Total white washing of that scene right there. :snoop:

You know good and well that lil boy would've still been mad to this day after what was done to his dad.
 

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I just watched it and I thought it was good but the ending was wayyyyyy to far out there. Everything was believable up until Leo got killed the entire ending was just not even remotely realistic but I still enjoyed it. I was really impressed by Leo and the German, I also think Samuel Jackson played his role very well:mjpls:
 

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Leo gave us the full :leostare: after sic'in those dogs on old dude and we got Jamie's version of :myman: at the end.
 

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I think this film is going to open the doors for more serious films that the black militants on the coli want i.e John Horse Black/Seminole/Indian or Nat Turner. I know I would eat those films up. The gates are open now and seeing how everyone is behaving themselves and the movie being a success I think will allow more (hopefully black film) developers the chance to get these stories told to a wide audience.

This movie was a success but I don't think the gates are open.

I could be wrong, but I doubt it...
 

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after reading the whole article i can see what QT was saying about Roots. i've had similar convos with my girl about Roots being a little soft at parts and how it was a bit more favorable to whites during Chicken George's story (it was made for TV during the 70s), however I still think that film is important and has a place. I wouldn't take any single film as a complete and stand alone source for education in regards to the history of slavery, but alot of these films do have a place provided they are presented with knowledge of the context of which they were made and are taken along with other sources or even contradicted by other sources.
 

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Then what was so funny? Any movie "about" slavery that's "funny" and makes your cracker ass comfortable is immediately suspect.I've admitted that anything I've said about the movie is based on assumptions. Everything that I've said about white people is true though.:aicmon: You deserve a knot slapped in your face.

What was funny was the "raiders" or precursor to the Klan or whatever you call them. That shyt was random as hell and funny. The level of Sam Jackson's c00nery. Not laughing at him being a Tom, but cotdamn, the levels of c00nery. Its like you knew he himself had to be like cotdamn. The constant running joke was how dirty, badly accented and downright stupid a lot of the characters in the movie were. If anything I thought the comedy was really well placed. I was afraid there would be a lot of cringing by me, but I was just laughing a lot of the time. The looks on people's faces when they saw Jamie were priceless. So the slavery, the idea of how evil white people were then, even with the dude reading the bible, the comedy, the cinematography, the violence. Damn great movie. And that surprised me, as I went in really skeptical and wouldn't have seen it if all my brothers and sisters weren't in town to all catch it together. Its funny, we watched Roots just the other day. This was way more hardcore on the horrors of slavery. People say they felt Kunta getting whipped back in the day. I could feel the lashes in this. I could also feel Jamie whippin that ass. And yes, I felt there was a lot of using ******. But when you felt the characters were a little too casual with it, they would do something to get you back in the mindset that those were some evil ass devils.

For those that say, I'm praising the white man's portrayal, I'm not. I've read enough history, slave narrative and biographical texts to know the portrayal is never harsh enough of those times. But that was pretty damn harsh for a movie. What I will take it as a white person outside of academia actually not excusing the people of those times as the way of people in those times. They were devils and were portrayed as such in case you were worried about that.
 

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Tarentino needs to stop trying to black it up when talking to black people at times. Doesnt help his case. That Bet sh1t was kinda :snoop:

You could see Kerry and Jamie looking at each other smiling whrn he was doing. He didnt talk to Charlie Rose like that :usure:

Sam Jackson is probably the only brotha in hollywood that could get away playing that role. Sh1t was unexpected.comedy. I even like how they snuck Jonah in there :heh:

I like Spike Lee, but Im starting to view him as a jealous bish. Movie was too good to hate on.Django was basically a black super hero, how often u see that?:usure:

I get tired of hatin azz n1ggaz hating on dope sh1t.

I even liked throwin Rauce in there, and I cant stand that fukker. Jaimie said he basically wrote Rauce's sh1t, and I believe him:obama:
 
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