Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania starring Paul Rudd, Evangeline Lilly, Jonathan Majors, & Bill Murry Feb 17th, 2023

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Kang was still outside of space and time at this point. He still wasn't fully powered. He still needed to escape the quantum realm to be KANG-kang.
You keep saying this but you're making it up. At NO TIME do they say or indicate that Kang was not at full power once he got the suit and ship repowered. He was powerful enough to be ready to send an entire army out of the quantum realm and one shotted everyone in his path.

Until the ant family fought back. Which is bad writing plot armor
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He wasn't Quasar.

And while I enjoyed his performance, William Jackson Harper is too good to be playing minor characters in the MCU.
Quantum bands = draws energy from the Quantum Zone (Quantum Realm)

I think he's the actual Quantum bands itself (like a particle) but not the actual person, Wendall.

Just a theory.
 

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You keep saying this but you're making it up. At NO TIME do they say or indicate that Kang was not at full power once he got the suit and ship repowered. He was powerful enough to be ready to send an entire army out of the quantum realm and one shotted everyone in his path.

Until the ant family fought back. Which is bad writing plot armor
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Thank you :mjlol:

and lets not talk about him literally waiting for them to run up in his spot and fukk the rings up before he decided “hey maybe I should do something, this may mess up my launch”

Nope lets let these bums fukk up my shyt thennnnn Ill actually go and handle them. Genius villian though. Did they also weaken his intelligence off screen???
 

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You keep saying this but you're making it up. At NO TIME do they say or indicate that Kang was not at full power once he got the suit and ship repowered. He was powerful enough to be ready to send an entire army out of the quantum realm and one shotted everyone in his path.

Until the ant family fought back. Which is bad writing plot armor
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he was banished to the quantum realm.
the quantum realm exists outside of space and time.
the other kangs specifically sent him to the quantum realm because outside and space and time kang is weaker and doesn't have his full capabilities
In the quantum realm where he was weaker, he also ends up fighting Antman who turn into Giant-Man and slammed kang up against a wall multiple times, then he got overrun by the ants who had spent thousands of years getting their technology up to par for thousands of years

It was established thoughout the entire movie that this version of Kang was just an introduction and weakened.

please stop circling back around. it wasn't a plothole.
 
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he was banished to the quantum realm.
the quantum realm exists outside of space and time.
the other kangs specifically sent him to the quantum realm because outside and space and time kang is weaker and doesn't have his full capabilities
In the quantum realm where he was weaker, he also ends up fighting Antman who turn into Giant-Man and slammed kang up against a wall multiple times, then he got overrun by the ants who had spent thousands of years getting their technology up to par for thousands of years

It was established thoughout the entire movie that this version of Kang was just an introduction and weakened.

please stop circling back around. it wasn't a plothole.
I will the moment you stop adding canon that isn't in the movie or making stuff up. THIS:

he was banished to the quantum realm.
the quantum realm exists outside of space and time.
the other kangs specifically sent him to the quantum realm because outside and space and time kang is weaker and doesn't have his full capabilities

The bolded...is not told whatsoever. The other Kangs sabotaged his ship. He says this. He got banished and his power source and suit were broken, and as such, he could not get out.

It got fixed.

He was ready to leave the moment it got fixed. Janet destroyed it, but he had his suit. And took over the entire realm and built a society.

Then he got his ship fixed and was ready to leave.

At what point was he "not at his capabilities" once he got his suit (powers and manipulation wise) and ship (travel wise).

Kang with his suit got beat by ants. It's just bad writing
 

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I will the moment you stop adding canon that isn't in the movie or making stuff up. THIS:

he was banished to the quantum realm.
the quantum realm exists outside of space and time.
the other kangs specifically sent him to the quantum realm because outside and space and time kang is weaker and doesn't have his full capabilities

The bolded...is not told whatsoever. The other Kangs sabotaged his ship. He says this. He got banished and his power source and suit were broken, and as such, he could not get out.

It got fixed.

He was ready to leave the moment it got fixed. Janet destroyed it, but he had his suit. And took over the entire realm and built a society.

Then he got his ship fixed and was ready to leave.

At what point was he "not at his capabilities" once he got his suit (powers and manipulation wise) and ship (travel wise).

Kang with his suit got beat by ants. It's just bad writing
kang is weaker and doesn't have his full capabilities

he was not at his full capabilities IN THE QUANTUM REALM. he needed to escape the quantum realm to be able to get back to full strength. :dead:


please tell me how Kang can travel the multiverse when he's at full strength...but when he's in the quantum realm he can't just escape even with his ship and suit....could it be that being banished to a place where he is weaker...makes him weaker? Could it be that the other Kangs who know themsevles know exactly where they would be weaker?
 

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Some people laughed about this but Snyder was the only dude at DC that gave Cyborg and Martian Manhunter their due. :wow:

Meanwhile Whedon et al ignored them as much as possible :mjpls:

And yeah a movie or series based on Kang would absolutely work.

And just as a I predicted Kang wouldn't be shown as dominant and an overwhelming threat despite the hype. Cacs just aren't going to let it happen :mjpls:

So you end up with an underwhelming introduction in Loki, him reduced to fighting ant-man of all people in his blockbuster movie reveal and moving forward new variants will almost certainly be written to be weak as well.

So Feige et al need to either lay down their racism and write Kang properly or bring in a cac villain like Doom that they won't have a problem with being allowed to boss up and wreck havoc.
You nailed it.
It's gonna be doom pulling strings the whole time playing everyone
 

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no one wants this, a few "grounded serious" movies every now and then is fine. most people do want some comedy, they just want it done well. they've lost their way, stop hiring fukkin Rick and Morty writers
Snyder needs to handle the action . Bring the Russo's back. Shouldnt have let gunn. Needed to beg the first strange director to stay. These corny ass directors are ruining everything
 

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kang is weaker and doesn't have his full capabilities

he was not at his full capabilities IN THE QUANTUM REALM. he needed to escape the quantum realm to be able to get back to full strength. :dead:


please tell me how Kang can travel the multiverse when he's at full strength...but when he's in the quantum realm he can't just escape even with his ship and suit....could it be that being banished to a place where he is weaker...makes him weaker? Could it be that the other Kangs who know themsevles know exactly where they would be weaker?


He could have escaped though they just broke his core again :dwillhuh: being weakened wasnt what stopped him it was willful idiocy. And even then. He had a chance to get out via beating antman ass at the end and still lost. Just a woefully unimpressive villian showing
 

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:mjtf:A water Mexican can kill an African queen. But this bruh Kang, can’t ghost one wonder bread.

Exactly.

And the excuse of....it's because he's stuck in the Quantum realm so he's weak :mjgrin: doesn't make sense. Because even with that he can't handle Ant-Man in a fight?


Seriously.....Marvel is filled with anti-Black bs. Because water mexicans pull up to Wakanda. Toss their queen in the bushes and Wakanda lets it go. :scust:

And in this film Kang shows up and Ant-Man....Ant-Man of all people can hold his own against him. :mjpls:
 
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Snyder needs to handle the action . Bring the Russo's back. Shouldnt have let gunn. Needed to beg the first strange director to stay. These corny ass directors are ruining everything
Eh, keep Snyder the fukk away from the MCU. The Russos did their thing in the last saga. Deserved the chairs for IW/Endgame after leaving a big footprint with The Winter Soldier. That being said, they haven't directed anything in this current saga. And I'm all for letting the new bloods like Destin Daniel Cretton cook with an Avengers-scale film cause I want to see something different this go-round.

The real issue is that they need to hone in on these scripts PRIOR to shooting. That's one thing Gunn preached about in his DC introduction that I appreciated, and it has been killing Marvel for quite some time now.
 

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He didn't have his full capabilities because if he did Kang would have just left the quantum realm. :gucci: He's a multiversal threat.
He didn't have his full capabilities because HE'S BEATEN THE AVENGERS ACROSS MULTIPLE UNIVERSES WHEN HE WAS AT FULL STRENGTH. :gucci:

Yall have to actually process some things.

and he was banished specifically to the quantum realm...outside of space and time...so that he didn't have full capabilitis.
That’s literally why at the end he was like fukk fighting and was trying to jump through the portal to get back out the QR :dead:
 
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