Another Plane Down. 148 passengers presumed dead. Co-pilot crashed on purpose.
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Chrishaune
Veteran
They say it's too much of a risk.....somebody could take out the pilot when he comes outside the cockpit and take the key. Or if you leave one somewhere outside the cockpit then people will eventually know where it is so that wouldn't be possible either.
The system they have is ok, but the fact that you can't trust people 100% of the time is the problem. People who want to harm themselves or somebody else will find a way.
Figaro
Superstar
Why didn't the dude just put the chrome to the dome instead 
Killing innocent people because he's was 100% pure bytch
Killing innocent people because he's was 100% pure bytch
As soon as I heard that the decent was controlled(near the french alps out of all places
) and that one pilot was locked out I knew it had to be intentional. I'm convinced the same happened with the still missing Malaysian Airlines plane before it was shot down. Only three ways they tend to generally go down; pilot error, intent from the pilots or pilot to crash it or shot down by the military/government for security reasons. As it was a controlled descent, those people knew they were going to die just before, goddamn
. They're saying he was 100% fit to fly, so unless something comes out later he just said "fukk it" and then decided to crash it or those psych tests need to re-evaluated. 
to the victims.
) and that one pilot was locked out I knew it had to be intentional. I'm convinced the same happened with the still missing Malaysian Airlines plane before it was shot down. Only three ways they tend to generally go down; pilot error, intent from the pilots or pilot to crash it or shot down by the military/government for security reasons. As it was a controlled descent, those people knew they were going to die just before, goddamn. They're saying he was 100% fit to fly, so unless something comes out later he just said "fukk it" and then decided to crash it or those psych tests need to re-evaluated. to the victims.
...and now my wife is asking when are we getting our flights to Seattle for her bday in Oct.....
Better tell her yall going somewhere local
ChrisDorner
Banned
if a plane crashes im pretty sure people are aware they are going to die whether it was a controlled descent or notAs it was a controlled descent, those people knew they were going to die just before, goddamn
fukking a$$hole 
hope satan and his goons butt rape that a$$hole pilot to eternity
hope satan and his goons butt rape that a$$hole pilot to eternity
Probably doesnt prevent a psycopath from doing this crazy shyt but moving forward equip the cockpits with cameras that can be viewable on the passengers seat back screens. Passengers should be able to see what is going on in the cockpit at all times.
RealAssanova
Vagitarian
dude checked out way before the flight even pushed back, so it likely was planned. However, i doubt investigators will recover any evidence of it as i assumed he kept it to himself.
as for the timing, it was roughly 25-30 mins after departure, so at a relatively low stressful stage of flight. Take-off up until cruise and descent till landing are the most stressful stages of flight and requires all of the crew's undivided attention. So the captain was totally fine and legally allowed to leave his position for the bathroom and i'm thinking the first-officer even recommended he do so (hence the sound of the chair moving back). It was at this point that the first-officer locked the door and initiated the descent.
i'm not sure how it is on boeing, but on airbus, the lever is located on the lower section of the panel on the captains side. Three switch lever: unlock, norm and lock. If in the norm position, once a person leaves the cockpit, they will be able to re-enter it using an access code or another method. However, if in "lock", there is no way anyone is getting inside...code, the other method or not.
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more so for rogue if your based outta NBO as this took place in africa....there was a more recent accident in 2013 involving a pilot suicide. TM-470.
A LAM Linhas Aereas de Mocambique Embraer ERJ-190, registration C9-EMC performing flight TM-470 from Maputo (Mozambique) to Luanda (Angola) with 28 passengers and 6 crew, was enroute at FL380 over northern Botswana in clear weather when the aircraft suddenly began to descend at about 6000 feet per minute until radar contact and radio contact was lost with the aircraft at about 11:30Z
On Dec 21st 2013 Mozambique's Civil Aviation Authority reported in a press conference (the preliminary report has not yet been released by Namibia's Accident Investigation Commission), that cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder revealed, that the captain was alone on the flight deck, banging on the flight deck door could be heard on the cockpit voice recorder. The autoflight systems (autothrottle and autopilot) were engaged. There were sounds and clicks consistent with a person knowledgeable of the aircraft systems commanding the engines to idle thrust and selecting the autoflight systems into a descent at 6000 feet per minute. Numerous warnings and alerts were not responded to.
We can now see the flip side of the same measures implemented to protect us from terrorists post 9-11.
what i see happening in the future:
- Sterile Cockpit Rules being revamped. Completely. Having an extra crew member in the flight deck once another leaves being mandatory and crew being trained on what to do in the event such as this unfortunate one happens (only drawback here is, if a pilot is hell bent on comitting suicide, he/she can and will do anything in their power to over power the other person, including killing him/her to take control of that flight)
- Live (real time transmission recording) camera's in the cockpit
- Remote flight monitoring and pilot override (sorta like how they operate drones)
the affect? pilots becoming less important, perhaps pay being slashed or even worst, the career being completely replaced (highly unlikely).
in any case, it really will now be about seeking a balance between safety and security. Airlines will be carefully watching how this investigation unfolds and I see major changes in the industry happening after this.
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Nah there's a certain altitude that if a plane reaches or goes above it will result in a lack of oxygen throughout the whole plane which will subsequently knock out the passengers and crew. I would rather go out that way, feeling a bit tired and then falling "asleep" as opposed to being conscious and knowing that not only is the plane is about to crash, there's nothing that can be done and you're about to die
. fukk are you supposed to even do in a situation like that.
RealAssanova
Vagitarian
Nah there's a certain altitude that if a plane reaches or goes above it will result in a lack of oxygen throughout the whole plane which will subsequently knock out the passengers and crew. I would rather go out that way, feeling a bit tired and then falling "asleep" as opposed to being conscious and knowing that not only is the plane is about to crash, there's nothing that can be done and you're about to die
they can never reach that altitude fam. There is something called a max ceiling height. This is the max altitude that a specific aircraft can fly at. Anything above that and it is subjected to aerodynamic forces and flight performance beyond its capabilities.
The cabin is pressurized and i believe there is a sensor in place that detects once it is depressurized. If detected, the oxygen masks automatically deploy. Pilots are then required to descend to 10,000 ft where normal pressure can be attained.
RealAssanova
Vagitarian
I think this will probably be the most likely.
it is in the U.S. However, it is not universally implemented.
it is also the most practical solution.
