Ancestry Test?

[Apollo Creed]

It is confusing due to the use of stuff like distance, but after studying it for a while I figured that distance referred to time. So the distance to some ethnic group in my way of thinking referred to how far back (in terms of generations) that you had those ancestors. The other point is that some Gedmatch tests don't have all of the ethnic groups for people of African descent, so you would probably be best served by focusing on a specific test that points out African ethnicity. If you are a Black person and all 4 of your grandparents are Black then the PuntDNAL calculator test will probably work best for you. That PuntDNAL calculator goes way back just focusing on African ethnic groups. In my results I saw Ethiopian, Egyptian, Somalian and Berber lines.

One other thing that I noticed about Gedmatch is that it identifies ethnic groups that you might not think of as being within a country. I noticed that I got back test results for Ghana and the Ivory Coast. Right away I knew that I likely tested positive of Brong, which is an ethnic group related to the Asante of Ghana and the Baoule of the Ivory Coast; all of whom are Akan people. What I didn't realize until later is that the Hausa and Fulani people are also in great numbers in those countries and for that matter all over West Africa. We typically only think of the Hausa people being in Nigeria, but in actuality the Hausa are one of the largest ethnic group in Africa and they live in many, many countries. So if you test for Ghana, you might actually be testing for Hausa people rather than Akan people. The same exists for Togo and Benin; you could be testing positive for Hausa or Yoruba, rather than Fon or Ewe. However, Nigeria might not show up on your test results; which is why you almost need to Gedmatch your results. The down side of the PuntDNAL is that I think that it lumps some ethnic groups like the Tikar people (Tikar, Bamoun and Bamileke people) of Cameroon into the classification of Igbo who of course are over the mountains in Nigeria. Other DNA calculators on Gedmatch break out those ethnic groups.

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Ethnic groups of Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Population
Nilo_Saharan 4.16%
Ubangian_Congo 2.56%
W_Benue_Congo 58.69%
Eastern_HG -
E_Benue_Congo 30.09%
Omotic 0.76%
Southern_HG 3.45%
Western_Semitic 0.29

I just ran the PuntDNAL and dont know what none of this is lol

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hausa @ 3.458346
2 Bamoun @ 8.150458
3 Mandinka @ 10.547383
4 Igbo @ 11.379250
5 Kaba @ 13.944367
6 Yoruba @ 15.467600
7 Yoruba @ 15.467600
8 Fang @ 16.260180
9 Brong @ 20.269438
10 Bambaran @ 23.383137
11 Nguni @ 23.420143
12 Pedi @ 24.545506
13 Mada @ 28.021175
14 Sotho/Tswana @ 30.563520
15 Xhosa @ 36.090683
16 Dogon @ 41.394966
17 Fulani @ 41.454182
18 Luhya @ 42.975731
19 Bulala @ 49.772465
20 Alur @ 50.401363

 

[The Coochie Assassin]

Generally Haplogroup's would have very little to do with your most recent ancestry with in the past 500 years, which is normal not to show something in your results that's thousands of years old. Although some people have haplogroups and show recent admixture that relates to their haplogroup like people with Native American haplogroup's but do indeed show Native American ancestry in their results.

Basically, you could have a Native ancestor who had kids with a black ancestor, and those kids have kids with another black ancestor and so on. With each generation, you're NA autosomal markers get watered down to almost nil because of continued breeding with non-NA's, but you still have that NA direct Haplogroup lineage.

yes that's what someone told me....but 100 years from now, will we know something that totally shatters this explanation ......I noticed u said I "could"....not I do.....could it be that the haplogroup I have is not really what modern scientists call "NA"

 

[Samori Toure]

Population
Nilo_Saharan 4.16%
Ubangian_Congo 2.56%
W_Benue_Congo 58.69%
Eastern_HG -
E_Benue_Congo 30.09%
Omotic 0.76%
Southern_HG 3.45%
Western_Semitic 0.29

I just ran the PuntDNAL and dont know what none of this is lol

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hausa @ 3.458346
2 Bamoun @ 8.150458
3 Mandinka @ 10.547383
4 Igbo @ 11.379250
5 Kaba @ 13.944367
6 Yoruba @ 15.467600
7 Yoruba @ 15.467600
8 Fang @ 16.260180
9 Brong @ 20.269438
10 Bambaran @ 23.383137
11 Nguni @ 23.420143
12 Pedi @ 24.545506
13 Mada @ 28.021175
14 Sotho/Tswana @ 30.563520
15 Xhosa @ 36.090683
16 Dogon @ 41.394966
17 Fulani @ 41.454182
18 Luhya @ 42.975731
19 Bulala @ 49.772465
20 Alur @ 50.401363

From my understanding that Hausa one is your most recent ancestor. That 3.458346 number is the distance. Let's just say a generation is 25 years then I think that 3.458346 * 25= 86.45 years represents the distance to that ancestor. So one of your parents could have bee passing those genes onto you, from some ancestor that they inherited that profile from. Since Black people in the West likely came here as slaves then you can see that the slaves represented multiple African ethnic groups. The greater the distance; indicates how far back you received DNA from an ethnic group. So the Alur people who are from Uganda look to be further back; so the parent that passed that to you was Bantu and they likely received that DNA over 1,200 years ago.

I could be totally wrong. I would love hear from someone else that can explain distance.

 

[Apollo Creed]

From my understanding that Hausa one is your most recent ancestor. That 3.458346 number is the distance. Let's just say a generation is 25 years then I think that 3.458346 * 25= 86.45 years represents the distance to that ancestor. So one of your parents could have bee passing those genes onto you, from some ancestor that they inherited that profile from. Since Black people in the West likely came here as slaves then you can see that the slaves represented multiple African ethnic groups. The greater the distance; indicates how far back you received DNA from an ethnic group. So the Alur people who are from Uganda look to be further back; so the parent that passed that to you was Bantu and they likely received that DNA over 1,200 years ago.

I could be totally wrong. I would love hear from someone else that can explain distance.

My Ancestry.com results were like 17% Mali and 82% Ivory Coat Ghana with the rest being traces of hunter gatherer groups. My Tribe from a history standpoint earliest records are being in Mali and moving down to northern liberia/Ivory Coast. I would assume the Mande Tribes listed in the results I posted are more so because we are all in the same areas thus we are most similar genetically?

 

[KOohbt]

My Ancestry.com results were like 17% Mali and 82% Ivory Coat Ghana with the rest being traces of hunter gatherer groups. My Tribe from a history standpoint earliest records are being in Mali and moving down to northern liberia/Ivory Coast. I would assume the Mande Tribes listed in the results I posted are more so because we are all in the same areas thus we are most similar genetically?

Did most of the people in the ivory coast/togo/benin move down there around the time the asante moved into present day Ghana?


I'm about to do mine next week or so. I gotta know so I can rep it.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Did most of the people in the ivory coast/togo/benin move down there around the time the asante moved into present day Ghana?


I'm about to do mine next week or so. I gotta know so I can rep it.

I`m not sure of the time to be exact, but I would assume after the fall of the Mali Empire. My tribe is found mainly int he area where Guinea,Ivory Coast, and Liberia meet. I think the only reason Ghana appears on my DNA as they probably grouped most of the Mande tribes together, as they all were in the area of the Mali and Ghana Kingdoms (note Current day Ghana is not where the Ghana Kingdom was).

 

[KOohbt]

I`m not sure of the time to be exact, but I would assume after the fall of the Mali Empire. My tribe is found mainly int he area where Guinea,Ivory Coast, and Liberia meet. I think the only reason Ghana appears on my DNA as they probably grouped most of the Mande tribes together, as they all were in the area of the Mali and Ghana Kingdoms (note Current day Ghana is not where the Ghana Kingdom was).

True from my gathering the Ghana empire was in present day Mali and Mauritania. So of Mali empire is a continuation of Ghana, then those mande tribes would have entered Ivory Coast, Burkina Faso, Senegal etc around 1200s AD. I find the migrations in West Africa interesting. So many different movements of people. AAs are lucky to be part of pretty much everything from Senegal to Angola all mixed up. Like some super heroes lol. We have ancestry in some of the greatest empires ever. Mali, Ghana, Songhai, Benin, Kanem, Congo etc shyt is powerful

 

[Apollo Creed]

True from my gathering the Ghana empire was in present day Mali and Mauritania. So of Mali empire is a continuation of Ghana, then those mande tribes would have entered Ivory Coast, Burkina Faso, Senegal etc around 1200s AD. I find the migrations in West Africa interesting. So many different movements of people. AAs are lucky to be part of pretty much everything from Senegal to Angola all mixed up. Like some super heroes lol. We have ancestry in some of the greatest empires ever. Mali, Ghana, Songhai, Benin, Kanem, Congo etc shyt is powerful

Yea thats why Im not for the whole D riding Egypt stuff, like folks are really too lazy to take a DNA test and then learn about the nations that make up their DNA? While Egypt was great, my culture and people have amazing history that I know for a fact I come directly from. Interestingly though not many slaves came from Present day Liberia, as the area was mainly known for its grains so that was the main source of trade compared to Benin and Nigeria who were going ham.

 

[How Sway?]

Did most of the people in the ivory coast/togo/benin move down there around the time the asante moved into present day Ghana?


I'm about to do mine next week or so. I gotta know so I can rep it.

Mordern day Togolese and Benin are different from the people in Ivory coast

Many ivorians are also akan like many ghanaians and they made it to present day ghana/ivory coast in the 6th century

I'm not too sure about the togolese benin people as far as when or even where they migrated from.

 

[KOohbt]

Mordern day Togolese and Benin are different from the people in Ivory coast

Many ivorians are also akan like many ghanaians

that's not what I'm asking. when did the people get there is the question.

 

[How Sway?]

that's not what I'm asking. when did the people get there is the question.

Peep the edit.

Just saying they ivorians are not part of that cluster of tribes that make up togo benin and se ghana.

 

[KOohbt]

Peep the edit.

Just saying they ivorians are not part of that cluster of tribes that make up togo benin and se ghana.

i know that, I was just wondering when the area started to be settled because they had to migrate there from north at some point, not specifying the different peoples just when people in general populated the area because I was only privy to when the asante chopped up them forests and got busy closer to the coast. i had a general idea of when people were in ivory coast at least since 1200s since it was a part of Mali empire.

 

[thaKEAF]

My girls just got sent to her email. She had majority Nigeria which she did not expect then I believe the Mali and Ghana. We did ours the same time so hopefully I get mine soon

What's crazy is a lot of other ancestry members popped up afterwards that the site said were extremely likely to be her second cousins.

 

[Raptor]

My girls just got sent to her email. She had majority Nigeria which she did not expect then I believe the Mali and Ghana. We did ours the same time so hopefully I get mine soon

What's crazy is a lot of other ancestry members popped up afterwards that the site said were extremely likely to be her second cousins.

Her great grand daddy has a lotta explainin to do

If he's alive ofcourse

 

[thaKEAF]

Her great grand daddy has a lotta explainin to do

If he's alive ofcourse

explain

Edit: oh you talking about the second cousin stuff