Oceanicpuppy
Superstar
I don't know man, I want to believe it just seems like wrong information. The graph is not adding up. The dodecad one which seem more in line with ancestry. It's different each graph..
Ancestry Test?
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Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Nigeria_Hausa 5.84
2 DRC_Kongo 6.59
3 Cameroon_Bamoun 6.75
4 Mali_Mandinka 10.12
5 Cameroon_Fang 12.47
6 Nigeria_Igbo 13.21
7 Chad_Kaba 13.27
8 Nigeria_Yoruba 17.22
9 SA_Nguni 19.24
10 SA_Pedi 19.87
11 Ghana_Brong 20.18
12 Kenyan_Bantu 22.26
13 Mali_Bambaran 23.06
14 Cameroon_Mada 24.88
15 SA_Bantu 26.87
16 SA_Sotho/Tswana 27.76
17 SA_Xhosa 31.68
18 Kenyan_Luhya 37.45
19 Nigeria_Fulani 37.82
20 Mali_Dogon 39.15
Keep in mind that I'm from the Virgin Islands with deep roots in Dominican(commonwealth)
Does anyone know there haplogroup?
Mine is e1b1a8a. I was told that E1b1a8a is a subclade of e1b1a .it is a subchange that arouse from the m2 branch, around grass land savana.your people are mende or mandinka who traveled from the niger area going futher into west africa 7,200 years ago.you are responsible for ancient ghana in Mauritania,and timbuktu.....
# Population (source) Distance
1 Nigeria_Hausa 5.84
2 DRC_Kongo 6.59
3 Cameroon_Bamoun 6.75
4 Mali_Mandinka 10.12
5 Cameroon_Fang 12.47
6 Nigeria_Igbo 13.21
7 Chad_Kaba 13.27
8 Nigeria_Yoruba 17.22
9 SA_Nguni 19.24
10 SA_Pedi 19.87
11 Ghana_Brong 20.18
12 Kenyan_Bantu 22.26
13 Mali_Bambaran 23.06
14 Cameroon_Mada 24.88
15 SA_Bantu 26.87
16 SA_Sotho/Tswana 27.76
17 SA_Xhosa 31.68
18 Kenyan_Luhya 37.45
19 Nigeria_Fulani 37.82
20 Mali_Dogon 39.15
Keep in mind that I'm from the Virgin Islands with deep roots in Dominican(commonwealth)
Does anyone know there haplogroup?
Mine is e1b1a8a. I was told that E1b1a8a is a subclade of e1b1a .it is a subchange that arouse from the m2 branch, around grass land savana.your people are mende or mandinka who traveled from the niger area going futher into west africa 7,200 years ago.you are responsible for ancient ghana in Mauritania,and timbuktu.....
When I first started using gedmatch I thought it was the same thing. I called it pseudo, then I realized different calculators use different markings. Each test has a different purpose. They(the calculators) don't all grab from the same pool/groups of people/tribes.I don't know man, I want to believe it just seems like wrong information. The graph is not adding up. The dodecad one which seem more in line with ancestry. It's different each graph..
Oceanicpuppy
Superstar
Hey I noticed that the calculator is counting my a lot of my European ancestry as western Semitic. I read a forum were white people were putting their kit into African calculators. A lot got high western Semitic. It seems the calculator converted euro ancestry to western Semitic . If any Fulani have non ssa ancestry it would convert it to ws and I would be closure to them by admixture instead of actual relatedness?
How do you get to these calculators?
Correct. It's a place holder. Some of the calculators are specific to what they're intended for. For instance a Asian calculator won't tell you much detail if you're mostly african in comparison to a african mostly or only african calculator. They(Asian calculator) will tell you that your mostly african but won't break it down as the African would, because that's not its purpose. Different authors set their own standards in their algorithm
Oceanicpuppy
Superstar
So it wouldn't really give you a solid answer for African American per say it would to have both detailed data from both Europe and Africa ? The eurogene one broke up the European ancestry better but it seem like with all the data any southern med, European Jew middles east score is calculated as North African. It seem like with a lot of these Dna test, seem to be using mixed people from North Africa and Middle East as some genetic ancestral group marker and regional representation. When they are highly mixed people. Samething with some groups in west Africa. It's like using mixed South Americans as some type of ancestral group.
You need to first take a DNA test for Ancestry.com or from 23&Me. When you get your results back from them then they will send you your data and you can upload it into GedMatch. GedMatch has a bunch of calculators that will show which ethnic groups you DNA comes closest to.
IMO the African calculators that I pointed out detail African ethnicity pretty well. There has been a lot of mixing between the tribes in Africa and in the USA. Your results could easily be those of a person with Fulani ancestry. They are West African, but I have read articles where people assumed that they were from North or even East Africa. Lots of Fulani were captured in the slave trade too; and their knowledge of cattle might be the reason for our use of the term cowboy. Boy of course being a black man during the slave era.
I realize that the calculators seem weird at first, but when you think about your Ancestry results; and then think about what GedMatch is trying to accomplish; it might make more sense.
I suggest that you reread the information on the Fulani and Hausa people. The mixed mode and multi mode population is a bit deceiving; but that single mode population is probably spot on; especially at the distance.
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I have all that, but I didn't see any HarappaWorld and the PuntDNAL calculators on GEDmatch.com
Breh I dont understand none of these calculators honestly. I posted one of my results I think earlier but dont think it got much response.
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 mandenka @ 3.283401
2 hausa @ 3.326024
3 bamoun @ 4.534422
4 igbo @ 4.638675
5 bambaran @ 5.403406
6 brong @ 6.160613
7 dogon @ 7.140235
8 yoruba @ 8.239671
9 yoruba @ 8.307821
10 kongo @ 8.331759
11 african-caribbean @ 8.617772
12 yoruba @ 8.971202
13 fang @ 12.036750
14 kaba @ 16.134197
15 african-american @ 21.778097
16 bantusouthafrica @ 25.180799
17 pedi @ 26.246124
18 nguni @ 28.097046
19 sotho-tswana @ 37.305107
20 bantukenya @ 39.314396
I`m from a Mande tribe so I assume that is why Mandenka/Mandingo/Mandinka is first? I know my ancestry I`m just trying to understand if these tests mean what I think they mean.
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You are definitely mostly Mandenka. It is in 2 of your top 7 distances and Brong and Dogon being in the other shows that you have a strong connection to the lands in and around the Mandenka people. Interesting that I don't see Fulani. You have Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo; so you have Nigerian too.
Are you African American? Because your profile is very similar to mine and I am an African American. I mean we literally have the same groups and in many cases almost in the same order. You literally even show African Caribbean and African American at distance. It goes to show you how closely related African Americans; African Caribbean and Mande people are.
I`m "Liberian", I`m more than likely getting Mandenka because My tribe wasn't tested. I did this test to see the accuracy of it being that both of my parents are 100% African. I probably could have some literal Mandingo/Mandinka in me being that my moms side practiced Islam until Missionaries came to their Village in the 60s, but for the most part I think the Nigerian stuff popping up is off, unless there is a common ancestor but even then Nigeria doesnt have any Mande people being that Mande = Mali Empire, so I`m not sure. At the end of the day people traveled/traded/ and mixed so who knows. My Tribe moved into Presented day Guinea, Ivory Coast, and Northern Liberia around the fall of the Mali Empire.
Some African Americans and African Caribbean people were repatriated back Liberia and Sierra Leone a couple of hundred years back. In fact I seem to recall the English repatriating some Nigerians back to Sierra Leone when they founded that colony. So that might be where your Nigerian; African Caribbean and African American numbers are coming from. I have no doubt that you are Mande; because your numbers look similar to an African American's or an African Caribbean's person. I come back heavy to Ivory Coast/Ghana. I assume that my ancestors may have been taken in heavy numbers from Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Ivory Coast.
Could I not have Caribbean and AA showing up from people of my tribe/ethnic group who were sold to the Americas? Like I said I`m some what confused as to are these test about groups that share DNA thus they are saying you are most similar to them or is it actually looking at your DNA and showing may have dna from these people and the number ranking = How many Generations back the Ancestor with that DNA is?