An Actual NUBIAN man writes a letter to hoteps/ankhs who culturally appropriate his people

[Samori Toure]

I'm not talking about video games and movies you ego inflated asshat. In video games and movies Egyptians are white so move the fukk around. I'm talking the real world. In the real world, your average white person is not claiming Roman descent unless they are Italian. White people are proud of their Irish/Scot/German/Saxon heritage. Don't confuse typical white washing with actual claiming of white washed culture.

And I am telling you that there are scores of White people, particularly American White people who are usually dumb as fukk; that think that they are descended from the Romans, Greeks and Egyptians.

I am not joking. Even when you point out to them that the English and Germanic people were actually enslaved by Romans and that the Romans referred to them as savages and barbarians; those White folks still cling to the notion that they are Romans. They even set up their governments on that premise; with the Emperor (President/Prime Minister) and the Senate and the House (commoners).

Maybe you are just a very honest White person that acknowledges that your ancestors are not from Greece, Rome and Egypt, but there are literally a nation full of White people walking around that think that they literally descend from Romans, Greeks and Egyptians. These are the same White people that try to tell Black people that Black people (Sub Saharan Africans) are not descended from Egyptians. Even though DNA testing is showing that Pharaohs like Tut were actually Bantu from Central and South Africa; and that some Royal family members of the Egyptians died from Benin type Sickle Cell Anemia. In fact Sickle Cell disease is what scientist think killed King Tut.

http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf
http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2013-02-01.pdf
King Tut died from sickle-cell disease, not malaria
http://phys.org/news/2010-06-king-tut-died-blood-disorder.html

Mind you now even scientist are now concluding that the the ancient Egyptians are actually genetically related the Ugandans. And now other scientists have concluded that the Ugandan Kingdoms of Bunyoro, Tooro and Buganda all have a number of similarities in royal practices and customs to ancient Egypt. However, there are still White people walking around talking about they are Egyptians.

Ancient Egyptian Pharaohs related to Ugandans - DNA


This shyt is so laughable that it is not even funny. I actually can't blame White people though. Just by reading this thread it is clear that many Black people have no clue about their ancestry. And because they have no clue about their ancestry; White people can just tell Black people anything and many Black people will believe it.

 

[Max B]

Man these hoteps try way to hard


Dumbass nikkas never even set foot in africa and act like they know african history and shyt FOH

 

[Premeditated]

i agree with most of dude's points, but the funny thing is Nubians in Sudan and Egypt would most likely accept most other Africans and AAs than this stone cold fakkit. God damn! that nikka's tumblr is so gay. why did I have to go there?

 

[KOohbt]

People in this thread are saying "militants" or "hoteps" are in their feelings, and yet all I am mostly seeing is slick comments thrown at African-Americans. Funny.

While I agree with most of what the guy said in the letter, he shouldn't get cocky, because for one the term "Nubian" was just a generalized term for people south of Kemet. It was never used by the Egyptians or people south of Egypt. There was never a "Nubian" people. The term was coined by the Romans themselves(so how can we be stealing the term from a people when those same people never created the term), but more importantly yes the term was indeed synonymous with "black." It meant the dark skinned black people south of Kemet.

And even more importantly you modern day Nubians/Northern Sudanese should not get so cocky, becuse you guys yourselves hardy descend from the Ancient "Nubians" like the Kushyte, but instead your linage only maybe goes back to after the fall of the Kush Empire after it was destroyed by the Axum Empire. You guys come from desert nomads who migrated to that area after the fall.

Instead the Kushyte people(the ones who built those fancy pyramids in Sudan) were most likely more similar to modern day Dinka people. I mean the Dinka people originated in Central Sudan which was where the Kushyte Empire began. Exactly what is so different about their way of life? Dinka are semi-agricultural pastoralists. So were the Kushytes. Dinka revered their cattle. So did the Kushytes. Yes, the languages of the Dinka and Kushytes may be different but they are still closely related. Though as time went on the Kushyte empire did absorb other Nubians who were more elongated/lighter in appearances.

And for those saying African-Americans have a weird obsession with Nile Valley civilization. Please answer to these STR results...

http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf

These STRs were aquired by Zahi Hawass himself. All DNAtribes did was put them into their computers to find a match(which anyone can do). The STRs in this study are mostly found in modern populations like Bantu people of Southern Africa, modern they Nilotic speakers(they have the most) and to a small intent West Africans. All this goes back to the Wet Sahara.

Meanwhile the irony is when it comes to the STR for the 18th dynasty family modern day Horners, Egyptians, Northern Sudanese and Levantine lag behind tremendously. Their clades back then didn't exist yet...

Yeah I went there.

the fact we got a lot more DNA in common with royalty then horners is really eye opening.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Is there a point to the utter hatred of people who wish to claim a culture they can be proud of?

I wonder this because every single white person alive today claims Vikings or Rome.

Are even 20% of them descendants of the vikings or romans? No. Do 100% claim them? Yes. Why? Because having a great history you can somewhat affiliate with makes you aspire to greatness in the future.

Every cutlure does it. Modern day mexicans claim aztecs even though maybe 1/5th their population are decendents. GTFO it. Man up and worry about yourself.

So you americans heroifying harriett tubman got the great slave race to look back to and you are happy with an administrative job still working the fields for your corporate masters. Meanwhile the Hoteps are trying to build a nation.

you were good until that last sentence

 

[Gab]

you were good until that last sentence

who the girl in your picture?

 

[Thuglet]

the fact we got a lot more DNA in common with royalty then horners is really eye opening.

"Royalty" that was sold off to whites by their own people

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Lol...Now anyone who has an interest in African history or genetics is a hotep.

who gives a fukk. Horners already come from an area with many empires. AAs are completely obsessed with Ancient Egypt and not with other African Kingdoms/Empires.

Oh, so now its a "we don't give a f*ck", when everyone in this thread was throwing slick sh*t at AAs for no reason and when I and others point out that the 18th dynasty showed more affinity to AAs/West Africans than even horners its now a "we don't give a f*ck."

And horners had many empires in that area? Good for you guys.

the fact we got a lot more DNA in common with royalty then horners is really eye opening.

That's because the genetic lineages associated with horners didn't exist during that time.

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

It's 2016 ..go find your roots instead of claiming shyt to look cool

Dumb ass nikkas

 

[K.O.N.Y]

My favorite is how a few of the Islanders here are quick to get bold on some "you don't have true culture like us "

As if anyone wants to be from some pathetic ass Islands that produce nothing but dish washers and cooks.

come on breh

 

[Misreeya]

Lol...Now anyone who has an interest in African history or genetics is a hotep.


Oh, so now its a "we don't give a f*ck", when everyone in this thread was throwing slick sh*t at AAs for no reason and when I and others point out that the 18th dynasty showed more affinity to AAs/West Africans than even horners its now a "we don't give a f*ck."

And horners had many empires in that area? Good for you guys.




That's because the genetic lineages associated with horners didn't exist during that time.

For some reason i still take this with a grain of salt. For example, i don't see any continuance of nile valley cultures in other societies in Africa or the Middle East outside of what is North Sudan and Egypt. Looking at those culture none of those societies worshiped the same "gods" like in the Nile Valley, most of them did not produce a system of writing like in the Nile Valley, nor there is evidence of similar construction methods, so besides present day genetics what other evidence can you go on?


Lastly Bashir is not flooding the pyramids, he is flooding other areas, but not the pyramids or present temples etc.

 

[Misreeya]

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[KravenMorehead™]

I post this video alot, here goes nothing...

 

[Fillerguy]

I see Africans still on their

 

[Bawon Samedi]

For some reason i still take this with a grain of salt. For example, i don't see any continuance of nile valley cultures in other societies in Africa or the Middle East outside of what is North Sudan and Egypt. Looking at those culture none of those societies worshiped the same "gods" like in the Nile Valley, most of them did not produce a system of writing like in the Nile Valley, nor there is not evidence of similar construction methods, so besides present day genetics what other evidence can you go on?

What exact point of mines are you referring to? First of all I agree that most of the cultural similarities of Ancient Egypt are in the Sudan(south Sudan included mind you), but there are in fact cultural similarities to Ancient Egypt throughout Africa. This is because a lot of other cultures in Africa influenced Egypt instead of Egypt influencing them. The opposite of how Rome influenced most of Europe. But most of this happened at a time when Egypt was not really Egypt. As long as you can go back there have been Hunter Gatherer populations.. They were MOBILE. If you read about the aquatic/aqualithic populations in the Sahara they too were MOBILE. And the wet Sahara culture around that time was very large, it stretched from the Maghreb all the away down to Mali.

Stuff like headrest are throughout Africa, they could have diffused from Egypt, but they were most likely already in the Sahara. But like I said you can find similar cultural Egyptian traits throughout Africa...

The Lower Egyptian cultures in the fifth and fourth millennia are marked by an architecture of ovoid or circular huts (pl. 1:8) made of light material (mud and reeds), rather close in aspect to the traditional architecture of sub-Saharan Africa."

--Olin and Blin 2003

"Specific central African tool designs found at the well known Naqada, Badari and Fayum archaeological sites in Egypt (de Heinzelin 1962, Arkell and Ucko, 1956 et al). Shaw (1976) states that "the early cultures of Merimde, the Fayum, Badari Naqada I and II are essentially African and early African social customs and religious beliefs were the root and foundation of the ancient Egyptian way of life."

Pottery evidence first seen in the Saharan Highlands then spreading to the Nile Valley (Flight 1973).

Here we have a scholar attempting to explain the very concept of Egyptian Kingship using the cattle Cultural Complex which remains well and alive in Southern Sudan:

The question of the origin of the royal ‘ka’ and the other concerns the origin of the red and white crowns. Wilkinson presents strong evidence that Naqada I was an archetypal representative of the traditional African cattle-culture, a type of society that still exists in a remarkably pure form in the southern Sudan, despite years of civil war. Among Sudanese Nilotes, cattle are raised as symbols of wealth, as the medium for all social transactions (like marriage), and as sources of renewable food (blood and milk). The people rarely kill cattle for meat, which they obtain by hunting wild game. Wilkinson’s overview of the evidence for Naqada I transhumance and cattle burial, coupled with his analysis of the rock art, suggests that Egyptian civilization sprang from a society of broadly similar characteristics. Cows with artificially deformed horns, so common among Nilotes today, are often featured in the early rock art of Egypt and Sudan as well as in Egyptian dynastic art (Kendall 1989, 680–88, fig. 1, 9–12). Even the historic Egyptian symbols of royal office — the crook and the flail — recall a time when the king was seen as the chief herdsman of his people.

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Not only that, but the Dogon of Mali religion is very similar to that of Ancient Egypt.

For example, there is clear evidence for the worship of both the mother goddess Neith and the creator god Amen that dates from pre-dynastic times – well before the first surviving written text in Egypt. This view is also upheld by a variety of on-going parallels that become evident when we compare Dogon cosmological drawings with ancient Egyptian glyph shapes, and key words of Dogon cosmology with likely counterparts in the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic language.

Dogon Cosmology & Egyptian Hieroglyphic Writing | New Dawn : The World's Most Unusual Magazine

There are even more examples of anthropologist finding similarities of Egyptian culture(especially religion) to other Africans.