An Actual NUBIAN man writes a letter to hoteps/ankhs who culturally appropriate his people

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Lol...Now anyone who has an interest in African history or genetics is a hotep.:deadmanny:


Oh, so now its a "we don't give a f*ck", when everyone in this thread was throwing slick sh*t at AAs for no reason and when I and others point out that the 18th dynasty showed more affinity to AAs/West Africans than even horners its now a "we don't give a f*ck."

And horners had many empires in that area? Good for you guys.




That's because the genetic lineages associated with horners didn't exist during that time.
wonder which direction their new DNA came from :mjpls:
 

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horners got a lot of other dna breh

And? So do a lot of Africans and Eurasians? African-Americans "got a lot of other dna" too... And if you're trying to say horners got non-African admixture, just letting you know that was all the way back in prehistoric times when the population next door(Arabian peninsula) looked no different than Africans. So horners were still "black." More importantly the non-African genes in horners by now would have undergone mutations making them local... Meaning its now African...

Horners are African. Nothing else...
 

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Lmao, this is why I'm a proud American and Identify as African American. I've been discovering my identity as an African and I have to admit most pro black or afrocentric people I meet are delusional. There's no fukking way everyone descends from Nubia. shyt isn't even in the area of Africa crackers were taking slaves from the most.Then they want to talk about being descendants of slaves. So you're a descendant of royalty that was captured and sold into slavery?
Okay. So your ancestors were bytches? Got it.
By this logic, African Americans descended from "bytches" then. Way to disrespect our ancestors.:francis:
 

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By this logic, African Americans descended from "bytches" then. Way to disrespect our ancestors.:francis:
You're bending my words to fit your agenda, s'all good though. If someone claims their bloodline is royal and slaves they're saying someone with access to national wealth and a national military was captured and sold into slavery. If I had access to an army I assure you I would never be held captive by anyone.
 

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You're bending my words to fit your agenda, s'all good though. If someone claims their bloodline is royal and slaves they're saying someone with access to national wealth and a national military was captured and sold into slavery. If I had access to an army I assure you I would never be held captive by anyone.
Kingdoms rise. Kingdoms fall. That is natural. If another king was overthrown by an outside power, that does not make them any less royalty. Even kings and queens take Ls.
 

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Kingdoms rise. Kingdoms fall. That is natural. If another king was overthrown by an outside power, that does not make them any less royalty. Even kings and queens take Ls.
True. But over one million slaves were captured and I doubt many of them were royalty. I also don't think slave records indicated what social class the captured person was in.

Claiming to be a descendant of enslaved African royalty isn't complimentary. It raises more questions than it answers I think. I'm all for empowering my people but we need to be honest about our history. Not everyone is royalty. That's all I'm saying.
 

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Then you just don't know anything. Literally hundreds of roman and viking movies and video games a year. Every single person in my industry is so proud of these cultures. You don't know because you don't study white people. Unlike you, I have to have a broad customer base so I add things in my game that hint those cultures and they subliminally like it without even putting any white people in the game at all.

Because they make movies and video games about Romans and Vikings doesn't mean they are claiming them. They make those because they are interesting.
 

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I wish I was Egyptian too but I'm not.
you cats kill me :mindblown:

What the African American experience showed to the world is how resilient and strong the African roots are from the language to the social customs to the music
that's sth more AAs should be proud of and more "pure" Africans should respect. There's nothing to win in bickering with each other.
 

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Sudan/New Zealand.
What exact point of mines are you referring to? First of all I agree that most of the cultural similarities of Ancient Egypt are in the Sudan(south Sudan included mind you), but there are in fact cultural similarities to Ancient Egypt throughout Africa. This is because a lot of other cultures in Africa influenced Egypt instead of Egypt influencing them. The opposite of how Rome influenced most of Europe. But most of this happened at a time when Egypt was not really Egypt. As long as you can go back there have been Hunter Gatherer populations.. They were MOBILE. If you read about the aquatic/aqualithic populations in the Sahara they too were MOBILE. And the wet Sahara culture around that time was very large, it stretched from the Maghreb all the away down to Mali.
RockArtandLatePleistoceneandEarlyHolocenepalaeo-hydrologyoftheGreenSahara03.jpg


Stuff like headrest are throughout Africa, they could have diffused from Egypt, but they were most likely already in the Sahara. But like I said you can find similar cultural Egyptian traits throughout Africa...


--Olin and Blin 2003




Pottery evidence first seen in the Saharan Highlands then spreading to the Nile Valley (Flight 1973).

Here we have a scholar attempting to explain the very concept of Egyptian Kingship using the cattle Cultural Complex which remains well and alive in Southern Sudan:


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Not only that, but the Dogon of Mali religion is very similar to that of Ancient Egypt.


Dogon Cosmology & Egyptian Hieroglyphic Writing | New Dawn : The World's Most Unusual Magazine

There are even more examples of anthropologist finding similarities of Egyptian culture(especially religion) to other Africans.


Interesting, you are talking about pre dynastic period, before the formation of the nation state? Correct. They may have influence (what is NOW South Sudan) which i doubt, but were depicted in the ancient art, that is a resounding yes. The bottom line question are they pharaonic people, questionable. For my perspective reading about their culture besides cattle culture, which many cultures practice around the world anyway leave doubts to such analysis.


Also the "ancient gods" South Sudanese, and many African groups worshiped was a contrast in what was practiced in the ancient Nile Valley, and from what i read South Sudanese did not worship Isis

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Kawa temple North Sudan
http://www.saylor.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1.8-AEGISOFISIS.pdf




Other African religions

Nuer Religion
Dinka religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yoruba religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Odinani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

By reading this and do a honest comparison, it contrast what was practiced in the nile valley. In all honesty, when Afrocentrist make claims that the population today in North Sudan and Egypt are not descended of the ancient culture it becomes problematic, and a war of words pursue, and i understand that most of this does not have to do with us, and it mainly the social issues in America.
 
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