At a peak Berto
That's just as bad as when nikkas used to say focused zab.
Or in-shape James Toney
Damn Zab....you was supposed to be next up
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Or in-shape James Toney
Damn Zab....you was supposed to be next up
People seem to love his speed an entertainment value.
He hardly brings anything else nowadays.
Or in-shape James Toney
Damn Zab....you was supposed to be next up
well there have been enough fights where an inshape toney showed and put in work so its not that much of an oxymoron lol
focused zab though
..i only saw that in the second fight with spinks...that ass whoopin he dealt out was very focused lolprime berto..career wise I cant pinpoint that..dude struggled too much in his tests before he got his zero took , physically is better to use to regard his prime before dude starting tearing muscles left and right
Black_Jesus
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Floyd and Timothy Bradley both made easy work of JMM though and only needed 1 fight to do it.
What does all that really mean at the end of the day though except styles make fights breh?
If you dont think Maidana being with Garcia has improved and tightened up his technique, than I dont know what to tell. The proof is in the pudding though
Floyd cane in the fight above the limit and made easy work of a 36 year old man trying to move up from featherweight.. and when Bradley and Marquez fought, they underwent random blood testing.. take what yoy want from that..
Im not saying Maidana hasn't made a few subtle improvements here and there, but nikkas in here acting like he's this entirely new fighter... that nikka would lose to Alexander and Khan of they were to fight again.. and I doubt AB would've lost to him at 140, but then again I dont even think AB belongs there yet
Black_Jesus
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Ruslan Provodnikov cannot beat a boxer. A moving boxer such as Paulie, Chris Algieri, or Mauricio Herrera. Hell, he couldnt even finish light hitting Timothy Bradley who BRAWLED with him the entire fight while concussed
How can you sit here and say who he CAN beat when HE hasnt proven that he can beat anyone?
His best win is Mike "Average Ass" Alvarado breh
But you I and everyone here knows Ruslan beat Bradley and one of his KDs didn't get counted...
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well there have been enough fights where an inshape toney showed and put in work so its not that much of an oxymoron lol
focused zab though
prime berto..career wise I cant pinpoint that..dude struggled too much in his tests before he got his zero took , physically is better to use to regard his prime before dude starting tearing muscles left and right
Yep..
Berto had struggle fights with Estrada, Forbes, collazo, etc..
nikka prime was inconsistent as hell
@bigmac i never got amir khan's appeal either..arrogant but sounds like a complete fool when he opens his mouth and chinny as a motherfukk...even before prescott sent his ass to the bushes dude used to be getting buzzed left and right from light hitters...i was like there's no way he was going to last..to his credit he proved me wrong after...basically he's still a player based off his string of victories from barrera to maidana...hell i gave him mad props for winning that maidana fight and avoiding getting KTFO...most ppl give 2 shyts if he wins they just want him eat a hard punch and start hucklebucking all over the ring lol
bigmac
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Maidana fight I also gave duke mad props for, honestly one of the best fights I've seen in my life. Even with that though, he always looked like he was there for the taking. Dude is hella average to me and that's coming from someone who wants to see him win.
Minor, he's gonna get it how he lives
Floyd cane in the fight above the limit and made easy work of a 36 year old man trying to move up from featherweight.. and when Bradley and Marquez fought, they underwent random blood testing.. take what yoy want from that..
Im not saying Maidana hasn't made a few subtle improvements here and there, but nikkas in here acting like he's this entirely new fighter... that nikka would lose to Alexander and Khan of they were to fight again.. and I doubt AB would've lost to him at 140, but then again I dont even think AB belongs there yet
Maidana fight I also gave duke mad props for, honestly one of the best fights I've seen in my life. Even with that though, he always looked like he was there for the taking. Dude is hella average to me and that's coming from someone who wants to see him win.
Minor, he's gonna get it how he lives
fakkits
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Breh, I think the point everyone is pointing out is that on raw talent Judah was a freak. He had all time potential. For the reason you pointed out, are things that make a difference between being a very good fighter and a legend. Floyd put it all together. Judah never fully reached to potential his athletic gifts led many to believe he could achieve.
This is a list of everything that separates Floyd and Judah
-Defense
-Work Ethic
-Clean LifeStyle, No Drinking, No Smoking.
-Respect For The Process Of Development
-Mental Strength
-Competitor's Spirit
- Trainers. Roger And Floyd Sr, are better than Noel Judah. Judah should have left his father years ago. Manny Steward would have been a good look
-Ability To Stick To A Gameplan Under Adversity.
-Ability to Adjust
-Reflexes
- Constantly adding things to his fight game, and adjusting with old age. (Floyd's Check Left Hook is Gone, But His Straight Right Hand is optimized)
-Playing Up To The Occasion. (Judah freezes under lights, Floyd embraces the moments)
Stop
You have to have the mental make up as much, if not more than the talent and Floyd had the right mental makeup, Judah never did.
Taking this to another sport look at Vince Carter and TMac. Both had the athleticism and talent to be ATG, fill that hype as the next Jordan type player. But it was Kobe who had the mental makeup.
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How is Berto a very good fighter when he's taking an L from a Victor Ortiz caliber fighter? ?.. Victor sucks and Berto loss to him. Their match was fight of the year because they were evenly matched against each other and there was multiple kd's throughout their fight
If you're trying to make a case for a fighter by listing "noteble" victories, Berto, Victor Ortiz, nor Soto Karass name should be never be listed...
I'm over at boxingforum24 most of the time. A LOT OF HARDCORE FANS. the MODs there do a Round By Round for all the fights
It's a good environment if you're a real boxing fan. But just some racism there too. Had to expose this fool over there recently
http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=513138
If you need a laugh
boxingforum24 hasnt been popping since the mods did their bullshyt by getting rid of avatars and the lounge. too many trolls aswellCheckhookboxing and the ring here are the best places to talk boxing now
Manny's people and Top Rank probably been calling Haymon round the clock and he is letting that shyt go straight to voicemail...then deleting the voicemails.:hayking:
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Not only is Khan represented by Haymon, but he is one of three guys with a contract signed directly with Showtime.
Not sure how that would even work Amir......
Not sure how that would even work Amir......