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:snoop: I didn't say any weight.. can you read bytch??:what:
Welterwight starts from 141 to 147, a welterweight title fight is legit as long as its in that weight range.. Cotto agreed to fight at 145 and put his title on the line.


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At what point will you realize that you dont know what the fukk you're talking about breh??. Bradley has fought multiple times at WW BEFORE he fought Pac and he beat Luis Carlos Abregu who was a WW contender back in 2010 and is a contender today 2014.

You can be done breh, I'll never be done schooling you though :umad:

JMM was only p4p when Floyd fought him? :what: :mjlol: JMM would beat the brakes off of every last 3 nikkas Floyd faced at WW breh

Abregu, are you serious man,

like I said bradley ain't beat nobody at Welterweight

JMM hasn't fought nobody at Welterweight so you can say whatever you want, until he beats the breaks off those guys, you're just blowing out air

JMM was only in p4p dicussion when Floyd fought him, and you call him a blown up FEATHERWEIGHT

so you're proven my point, stop bring JMM up, he's not a WW
 

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I wouldn't call Bradley pillow fisted. Dude is physically strong, and has a pretty decent right when thrown correctly that can rock or drop dudes with it. Just ask Abregu and Witter.

Timmy making Pac float for a split second wasn't some big unexpected surprise to me. You fight a nikka for 24 rounds you should be able to buzz them at least once at some point in time.

Bradley's power is about average. Nothing to write home about, but if he lands his money shot or catches you clean enough he'll win or fukk your face up. Word to Peterson and Provodnikov.
 

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Okay....I see you have to be trolling me, and it's too early for this with work on my desk:snoop:


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EVERY boxer has some type of power, even Paulie Malignaggi and Floyd (who by the way you love to claim is "feather fisted"):sas2:

Paulie just KO'd someone 2 years ago, while Manny hasnt KO'd someone in 5 years, but Paulie is known as a fighter with "pillow fists" just like Bradley who doesnt have many knockouts in his career either. Neither of them are known for there power and are known as fighters with "pillow fists".



Because, once again, Styles make fights.

Prov's styles is one of an aggressive brawler, who only comes forward with nothing but head shot power punches. Perfect for fighting someone like Pacquiao who's, imo, fighting scared lately due to being put to sleep by JMM and has NOT engaged anyone like he did prior to that KO loss since. I believe he's scared of being KO'd again and Prov will test that theory and his chin where Algieri will not. Algieri is actually the SAFEST opponent Pacquiao can fight at this point of his career.

How many times do I have to rewrite this breh?:wow:




What does them "getting their bread if HBO willing to do it" have to do with the viewing public?:dwillhuh:

We are viewers, we dont get a cut, so who cares about their bread. nikkas mad because Garcia (who's not even on Pac's elite level) is fighting Salka, but Algieri who's not even on Matthysse's level, is an acceptable PPV fight for Pacquiao?:what:

Nah, no way.

The fight is a huge mis-match and even JMM has said that Algieri "barely has a chance to win" http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-tabs-pacquiao-beat-algieri-ko-possible--80730

Nobody respects this fight and it's a bullshyt fight for an elite, A+ fighter to be fighting someone like Chris Algieri. If it was Floyd fighting him, you'd be leading the protest against it. Since it's Pac....you're cool with it.




Maidana has beaten 4 Champions in his career (Morales, Ortiz, Corley, Broner) and just gave Floyd the toughest fight in his career other than JLC 1. Maidana has only lost to Kotelnik, Alexander, Khan, and Floyd

Ruslan has beaten 2 Champions (Corley and Alvarado) and lost to Herrera, Algieri, and Bradley.

There's no comparisions with their resumes:camby:

Look at what Champions Maidana has beat look at Ruslan has beat....Maidana beat better Champions.

Look at who Maidana lost to and then look at who Ruslan has lost to....Maidana has lost to better opponents

It's right there. How you gonna call the guy with the better resume the "bum":dead:



Yeah, because Prov has shown he knows how to finish fights:camby:

AB has never been KO'd, so what you're saying is irrelevant

Again you've been proven wrong MANY times in this thread and all you're doing is parroting opinions without providing any facts or substance.

Real talk, if Prov was the one that hit Manny with the same flush right hand that Bradley caught Manny with, it would've been a Power Nap all over again for him. THAT'S the only fact, because Manny has been KO'd multiple times in his career.



If Ruslan beat Bradley than he definitely beat Algieri. Where is the consistency in what you're posting?:wow:



Herrera is legit because he beat, imo, a MUCH better fighter in Danny Garcia than a fukking Ruslan Provodnikov. Provodnikov has never beaten a fighter on Garcia's level.



Only reason you're propping up Algieri is because you're on the TR payroll. Anyone with eyes knows this fight is bullshyt with a bullshyt opponent. Again, let Floyd fight somebody like Chris Algieri and you would be going crazy.....since it's Pac, it's all good:rudy:

It's see through:camby:

:mjlol: damn nikka my bad.. I take back what I said about AB, I see my comments really upset you, that was not my intention...

but back on subjuect.. Im not trolling you dude,.. bradley caught Pac with an uncharacteristic hard upercut that made pac lift in the air.. what im saying is that particular punch wasn't a feather fisted punch and there was a lot of power behind that punch like a Provodnikov punch.. Prov throws that same punch, it would've had the same effect. . Just because a fighter isnt known to be a hard puncher doesn't mean they're incapable of producing that type of power which is why you have an instance where Pauly is KOing nikkas out the blue..



And I understand styles make fights, we've seen pac fight agressive boxers, we've seen what Pac does to them.. Before the Marquez KO, he decimates them while taking a lot of punches in the process, post KO, he's fighting smarter, not scared,(do not get it confused) and he's boxing their motherfukkin ears off. Pac/Prov would be Pac/Rios all over again..


The reason I brought up letting them getting their bread is because yall nikkas acting like yall dont give a fukk about the fight, but if HBO is willing to air that shyt on ppv why would they not take them up on it.. You not interested in the fight anyway so whats the problem?? :mjpls:

The reason nikkas mad at Garcia is because he has better options available at the moment than Salka.. If Floyd was to fight Algeiri if course he'd be look at like a bytch same reason he's looked at like a bytch now, because he has two mandatories #1 contenders for his WBC and WBA belts both signed to Al Haymon and he's ignoring them to fight Maidana bum ass.. Algeiri is the best option for Pac right now at the moment.. JMM should not have shyt to say since he's ducking Pac becauseof random drug testing..


Lets just take a look at the "champion" you pulling the pompoms out for Maidana beating

Silver champ Eric Morales in 2011 :why:

Victo Ortiz?? :what:

Demarcus Corley whos won like 4 of his last 15 fights :mjlol: :deadmanny: :bryan:

His most respectable win in years was against a blown up Superfeatherweight who has no business whatsoever anywhere near 147.. gimmie a fukking break.. piss on that resume

Prov, Bradley, Herrera, beats all these nikkas when Maidana beat them.. they would beat Maidana as well

All that shyt aside.. Im not proping up Algieri, all I'm saying is give the nikka his props on beating this nikka Prov who, in your words, is supposed to be this huge test for the Manny Pacquiao... Prov lost to Algeiri, and Bradley lost to prov, but a kd wasn't counted unlike Prov/Algieri where all of his kd's were counted.. and dont try to play me with that TR payroll because ive already said multiple times the fight shouldn't be on PPV
 
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Abregu, are you serious man,

like I said bradley ain't beat nobody at Welterweight

JMM hasn't fought nobody at Welterweight so you can say whatever you want, until he beats the breaks off those guys, you're just blowing out air

JMM was only in p4p dicussion when Floyd fought him, and you call him a blown up FEATHERWEIGHT

so you're proven my point, stop bring JMM up, he's not a WW
Im very serious
You cant even admit to being wrong.. everyone in here knows you thought Bradleys 1st fight at 147 was against Pac, you were proven wrong as usual. :umad:
Abregu was a WW contender when Bradley fought and beat him at 147, and he's a contender today.. JMM has been top10 p4p every year since 2007 end he's the current #1contender for Pacs WBO belt
 
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this fakkit @Newzz fell for the bait and wrote an essay :mjlol:
 

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this fakkit @Newzz fell for the bait and wrote an essay :mjlol:


An essay? I broke down each individual post or question he posed, since I've been accused on here in the past of ignoring someone's key points they were trying to make:ufdup:


Dont be mad, because I can formulate a boxing response longer than 2-3 sentences in between paper work:umad:


Besides, @Black_Jesus is my breh.....he deserves a full response rather than a quick remark or 2, so I always do that.

All other posters besides my brehs on here get a :mjlol:, a troll response, and a half a bar:birdman:
 

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Don't try to play me on this sport :mjlol:

Judah WAS more talented than Floyd. Just as fast, and a bit stronger. But not as mentally tough, and not as much of a gym rat.

Most of Floyd's fight game isn't talent. It's repetition. It's his father on his ass as a kid. It's the pad work with Roger, and the dedication to the sport.

That defense isn't a born talent. That's practice breh :jawalrus:

Floyd had a better career because he took the sport seriously and is mentally tough.

As far as physical gifts. Judah is right up there with Floyd. Anyone who debates that DKSAB. :wow:
I c/s this.

The bolded is what separates Floyd from alot of fighters. There are many fighters that are just as talented as Floyd, probably even more. Take a guy like Wilfred Benitez for example. Just from a physical talent standpoint, he was probably even more talented than Floyd. But mentally he wasn't there. Didn't like to train, spent too much time partying, drinking, and chasing tail. Lacked focus in the ring at times. Those are things that you'll never catch Floyd doing. He eat sleeps and breathes boxing.

Floyd even said it himself: "Everybody wants to be Floyd Mayweather, but nobody wants to put in the work that Floyd Mayweather does".

Regardless of how you feel about that man, you gotta respect his drive and his work ethic
 

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An essay? I broke down each individual post or question he posed:ufdup:


Dont be mad, because I can formulate a boxing response longer than 2-3 sentences in between paper work:umad:

you could write the torah. You lost when you entered a debate with a man who only watches 1 boxer :lolshaq:
 

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I c/s this.

The bolded is what separates Floyd from alot of fighters. There are many fighters that are just as talented as Floyd, probably even more. Take a guy like Wilfred Benitez for example. Just from a physical talent standpoint, he was probably even more talented than Floyd. But mentally he wasn't there. Didn't like to train, spent too much time partying, drinking, and chasing tail. Lacked focus in the ring at times. Those are things that you'll never catch Floyd doing. He eat sleeps and breathes boxing.

Floyd even said it himself: "Everybody wants to be Floyd Mayweather, but nobody wants to put in the work that Floyd Mayweather does".

Regardless of how you feel about that man, you gotta respect his drive and his work ethic

It's true.


Floyd's hardwork and dedication line is life for him.....alot of people repeat the phrase, but he truly embodies that.
 
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You cant even admit to being wrong.. everyone in here knows you thought Bradleys 1st fight at 147 was against Pac, you were proven wrong as usual. :umad:
Abregu was a WW contender when Bradley fought and beat him at 147, and he's a contender today.. JMM has been top10 p4p every year since 2007 end he's the current #1contender for Pacs WBO belt

Abregu ain't shyt, like I said, who has Bradley beaten at WW, I didn't say it was his first fight with Pac, I said he hasnt fought ANYONE, meaning he's not faced the top WW competition, and that is a fact

You heard here first guys, Abregu next in line for WW surepmacy
Abregu is annother Top Rank fukk job
he's a WW but his best opponent was Bradley a 140 pounder, and he lost

he's beating nobody at WW

that's

He's best comp a WW are 140 pounders

You complain when Floyd fought Marquez when he was p4p number 3, saying he was too small

JMM should not be a top rank WW since he hasn't beating any TOP WW fighters, only reaosn Bradley is ranked high as WW is because he beat Manny and Marquez, who hasn't fought any of the TOP WW

Does anyone even know who Manny's mandatory is for the WBO belt? Does any even care, I find it funny that it is Marguez, but Marquez isn't even ranked in all the other organizations
 
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Abregu ain't shyt, like I said, who has Bradley beaten at WW, I didn't say it was his first fight with Pac, I said he hasnt fought ANYONE, meaning he's not faced the top WW competition, and that is a fact

You heard here first guys, Abregu next in line for WW surepmacy
Abregu is annother Top Rank fukk job
he's a WW but his best opponent was Bradley a 140 pounder, and he lost

he's beating nobody at WW

that's

He's best comp a WW are 140 pounders

You complain when Floyd fought Marquez when he was p4p number 3, saying he was too small

JMM should not be a top rank WW since he hasn't beating any TOP WW fighters, only reaosn Bradley is ranked high as WW is because he beat Manny and Marquez, who hasn't fought any of the TOP WW

Does anyone even know who Manny's mandatory is for the WBO belt? Does any even care, I find it funny that it is Marguez, but Marquez isn't even ranked in all the other organizations
Whether you feel Abregu aint shyt is a whole notha debate.. You claimed Bradley never faced a contender at welterweight and were proven wrong.. Abregu was undefeated at WW and his only loss was to Bradley in a close slugfest.. Abregu lost but has been undefeated ever since.. I never said Abregu was the #1 contender, but he is ranked #2 contender under Floydies WBC belt right behind Khan and in front of Maidana bum ass.. These are facts.. Abregu is ranked higher than the bum Floyd is about to fight :mjpls:
#facts

You say what the fukk you want about Marquez, but him getting a victory over Pacquiao legetimized him at p4p as a WW even after a loss to Bradley... When Floyd fought him, he was coming from featherweight and Floyd was a damn Junior Middleweight.. that fight should've never happened.. regardless JMM has been top 10 p4p consistently since 2007
#facts
 
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Whether you feel Abregu aint shyt is a whole notha debate.. You claimed Bradley never faced a contender at welterweight and were proven wrong.. Abregu was undefeated at WW and his only loss was to Bradley in a close slugfest.. Abregu lost but has been undefeated ever since.. I never said Abregu was the #1 contender, but he is ranked #2 contender under Floydies WBC belt right behind Khan and in front of Maidana bum ass.. These are facts.. Abregu is ranked higher than the bum Floyd is about to fight :mjpls:
#facts

You say what the fukk you want about Marquez, but him getting a victory over Pacquiao legetimized him at p4p as a WW even after a loss to Bradley... When Floyd fought him, he was coming from featherweight and Floyd was a damn Junior Middleweight.. that fight should've never happened.. regardless JMM has been top 10 p4p consistently since 2007
#facts

Abegu just now got into the rankings, in 2010 he was not a Welterweight contender, how many times did he fight for a belt, or was in title contention, never

you shyt on Andre Berto who the WBC champion, but make excuses for frauds :cape: saving for top rank


he had some vacant paper made up belt Abegu has proved nothing at WW and neither as Bradley

Marquez is not a legitment WW because PAC isn't, I already told you he's a fraud, his title was paper, he only defended his WBO belt against Bradley who is another 140 avoiding 47 hitters
 

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Abregu was in the rankings for WW in 2010 and 2011 for the WBC title. And hes in the rankings this year.. Funny you mention his vacant title, when the WBC title was vacant when Both Berto and Ghost won it.. Not even shytting on Berto, just using your dumb ass logic.. what champions did Berto beat by the way :mjlol:

Welterweight is from 141-147.. Anyone fighting within that weight range is a legitimate WW.. Cotto agreed to fight Pac at 145 and got his ass whooped.. Pac defended his title against Clottey, Mosley, Bradley 2x, Maraquez 2x, and Rios at 147.. Marauez is a legit WW now after having a victory over Pac and Alverado at 147 no matter how you try to spin it
 
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