America is not the greatest country anymore

[Real Talk of NY]

So so far all im hearing is America sucks blah blah blah, but I havent heard what countries are so great.

Norway and Finlands combined population is 9 million as of 2012. The fukking population of New York alone is 8 million. You think those countries are allowing foreigners from all over the world in? They can pay for all that shyt because taxes are high as fukk, they have no notable defense spending (we pretty much protect them in NATO). There is no opportunity in those countries unless you are a native.

 

[Type Username Here]

So so far all im hearing is America sucks blah blah blah, but I havent heard what countries are so great.

Norway and Finlands combined population is 9 million as of 2012. The fukking population of New York alone is 8 million. You think those countries are allowing foreigners from all over the world in? They can pay for all that shyt because taxes are high as fukk, they have no notable defense spending (we pretty much protect them in NATO). There is no opportunity in those countries unless you are a native.

Yet, we are multiple times richer, collect the same amount of tax per capita, and spend more on education and health care. They also have large immigrant and refuge populations relative to their size.

You know what the difference is? They spend their taxable money on the right things. They tax their wealthy and corporations fairly. They close the loopholes.

 

[Real Talk of NY]

Which country is better for non whites, and has more opportunities? Be honest

Norway Population
4,691,849 (July 2011 est.)
1.7 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2011 est.)

Ethnicity
Norwegian 94.4% (includes Sami, about 60,000), other European 3.6%, other 2% (2007 estimate)

United States Population
313,232,044 (July 2011 est.)
4.18 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2011 est.)

Ethnicity
white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.18%, two or more races 1.61% (July 2007 estimate)

 

[Type Username Here]

Which country is better for non whites, and has more opportunities? Be honest

Norway Population
4,691,849 (July 2011 est.)
1.7 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2011 est.)

Ethnicity
Norwegian 94.4% (includes Sami, about 60,000), other European 3.6%, other 2% (2007 estimate)

United States Population
313,232,044 (July 2011 est.)
4.18 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2011 est.)

Ethnicity
white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.18%, two or more races 1.61% (July 2007 estimate)

The country that where their race and living location has no effect whether their education and health care are good and payed for.

i.e., Norway.

 

[daze23]

Which country is better for non whites, and has more opportunities? Be honest

Norway Population
4,691,849 (July 2011 est.)
1.7 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2011 est.)

Ethnicity
Norwegian 94.4% (includes Sami, about 60,000), other European 3.6%, other 2% (2007 estimate)

United States Population
313,232,044 (July 2011 est.)
4.18 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2011 est.)

Ethnicity
white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.18%, two or more races 1.61% (July 2007 estimate)

what does that have to do with which one is "better" or has more opportunities?

 

[TheBigBopper]

America isn't the greatest for the poor and lower-middle class, but it probably is the greatest for the affluent. Why? Moderately low income taxes, strong IP protection, the best (however expensive) private post-secondary education, and inexpensive resources.

 

[Type Username Here]

America isn't the greatest for the poor and lower-middle class, but it probably is the greatest for the affluent. Why? Moderately low income taxes, strong IP protection, the best (however expensive) private post-secondary education, and inexpensive resources.

You mean the other 50-65% of the country?

 

[the next guy]

So so far all im hearing is America sucks blah blah blah, but I havent heard what countries are so great.

Norway and Finlands combined population is 9 million as of 2012. The fukking population of New York alone is 8 million. You think those countries are allowing foreigners from all over the world in? They can pay for all that shyt because taxes are high as fukk, they have no notable defense spending (we pretty much protect them in NATO). There is no opportunity in those countries unless you are a native.

because you don't want to.NYC has 8 million, so what. The US is the third largest country in the world. And what can you do in the US that you can't do in Canada which is a safer enviroment? I am a native and Black.

 

[Real Talk of NY]

what does that have to do with which one is "better" or has more opportunities?

If they had opportunities they would have a higher migrant rate than 1% dude. Thats why migrants come to America, for opportunities. Simple concept friend. Norway is the size of england but with 1/15th of the population. Why is that? Either A: they are openly racist/xenophobic, or B: their economic model is not sustainable for a larger population. So how are they the greatest country again?

Yall want to talk about exclusiveness in America in regards to the 1%, but Norway is more exclusive than America by far. There are more people here doing well/ok, than there are people in Norway.

 

[Crakface]

but that's the same for pretty much everyone. they prefer 'home'

In this case, my home is better. No where on Earth is better then America day by day, Sorry.

 

[Real Talk of NY]

because you don't want to.NYC has 8 million, so what. The US is the third largest country in the world. And what can you do in the US that you can't do in Canada which is a safer enviroment? I am a native and Black.

Canada is cool, but damn all these countries fall under the US protection. US defense budget helps these countries pay for social programs. If the US ever fell off militarily these countries would have to cut a lot of social programs to pay for defense. This is true for Germany, South Korea, France, and every country in the EU.

 

[daze23]

If they had opportunities they would have a higher migrant rate than 1% dude. Thats why migrants come to America, for opportunities. Simple concept friend. Norway is the size of england but with 1/15th of the population. Why is that? Either A: they are openly racist/xenophobic, or B: their economic model is not sustainable for a larger population. So how are they the greatest country again?

Yall want to talk about exclusiveness in America in regards to the 1%, but Norway is more exclusive than America by far. There are more people here doing well/ok, than there are people in Norway.

no it's not as simple as that. did blacks "migrate" to the Americas?

and how are you gonna act like population density is strictly based on the economic situation. that's ridiculous. have you ever heard of this other factor called "geography"?

 

[Real Talk of NY]

no it's not as simple as that. did blacks "migrate" to the Americas?

and how are you gonna act like population density is strictly based on the economic situation. that's ridiculous. have you ever heard of this other factor called "geography"?

I didnt say anything close to what you are insinuating.

 

[daze23]

I didnt say anything close to what you are insinuating.

right here:

Norway is the size of england but with 1/15th of the population. Why is that? Either A: they are openly racist/xenophobic, or B: their economic model is not sustainable for a larger population.

 

[Turenne]

So so far all im hearing is America sucks blah blah blah, but I havent heard what countries are so great.

Norway and Finlands combined population is 9 million as of 2012. The fukking population of New York alone is 8 million. You think those countries are allowing foreigners from all over the world in? They can pay for all that shyt because taxes are high as fukk, they have no notable defense spending (we pretty much protect them in NATO).

...the US protects Finland and Norway from who?

There is no opportunity in those countries unless you are a native.

How the fukk do you know that? You've never been in either country.