Dzali OG
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And exactly what makes acknowledging real history and science "house" worthy?
Are we supposed run around here seriously thinking...we evolved in America?
Allegedly How many slaves were brought over?
- Thread starter Yagirlcheatinonus
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Are we supposed run around here seriously thinking...we evolved in America?
10.5 million African Americans in 1920. Population has more quadrupled (46 million today). Stop it!
Yagirlcheatinonus
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It was black people everywhere. I’m not denying a slave trade occurred. I question the numbers.
Miss me with the pseudo-intellectual bullshyt
The information is out there, overwhelmingly. Yall choose to ignore it and play dumb like you just want to debate in good faith.
what discussions like this often ignore is the number of men and women who died enroute to America.
A majority I believe..
What historical teachings also avoid highlighting is the mentality and mindset of an entire people to engage in such practice. These people are demons and only a fool would think they're changed.
Yagirlcheatinonus
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And word probably got back to his cousins in Spain who were moors and they told Columbus. It was moors with Columbus too and they were Muslim.There might be some evidence that Muslims and possibly even Muslims from the Empire of Mali were in America before Columbus. In the 1300s Mansa Musa came to the throne after his brother (Abu Bakr II) supposedly went on a voyage to the Americas. Over a hundred years later Columbus may have mentioned seeing a Mosque on a hill in Cuba, which would confirm that Muslims may have been in the America's first. It is not clear how much of is true, but you can not rule it out either.
Africa's 'greatest explorer'
Abu Bakr II: Did the King of Ancient Mali go to America?
by Bipin Dimri January 20, 2022
https://www.historicmysteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Abu-Bakr-II-America-e1649206365889.jpg
s://www.historicmysteries.com/myths-legends/abu-bakr-ii-america/23123/#:~:text=The%20king%20or%20%E2%80%9CMansa%E2%80%9D%2C%20Abu%20Bakr%20II%2C%20ruled,the%20Americas%2C%20landing%20in%20what%20is%20now%20Brazil.
So Muslims beat Columbus to America? They had better get in line
So Muslims beat Columbus to America? They had better get in line
Turkey’s president says Muslim sailors reached the continent in 1178 – but what about the Vikings, the Basques, the Bristolians, the Russians, the Chinese …?www.theguardian.com
Dzali OG
Dz Ali OG...Pay me like you owe me!
HOW were black people everywhere? That's where you're wrong. Unless you see Asian and native people as black.
By the time those black people who left africa got to wherever they got to, their diet, diseases, sun exposure, and mating with other hominids made them no longer black!
I was "questioning the numbers" 20 years ago. I already know EVERY question you can throw. I can save you years of being ignorant: it's all pseudo bullshyt.
Listen. People are just stupid 
.
I’m doing my PhD at Rice where Slave Voyages is actually hosted. I’m not a historian, but I’m pretty cool with Prof. Domingues, the dude that RUNS Slave Voyages and inputs the data into the website from archives and ship manifests. I took his graduate seminar course “the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade” last fall. He would tell you himself there is no way to fully account for the number of slaves brought to the colonies/U.S., but that the number is significantly higher than 92,000. There has been so much lost to time, privateering/pirating, disaster, intentional destruction, etc., and Slave Voyages data was primarily built off archived manifests records (more on that in a bit).
Like, let’s really think about this. Let’s say you were a captain of a ship during the South Sea Company under the Asiento Contract and the economic bubble bursts. You have all these records of your dealings, which are essentially bills of sale of humans and 5 years pass, ten year pass, 15 years pass, and so forth. You don’t have Google Docs, Google Drive, Cloud storage, Numbers, Excel, the BOX, etc. This shyt is stored in a tattered paper book you keep somewhere in the corner. Are you still holding onto that bill of sale of humans? Probably fukking not. Do you still have that bill of sale for that 2000 Mitsubishi Galant you used to have? Probably not, and that wasn’t even some demonic shyt you were a part of that you would most likely want to get rid of.
Slave Voyages is basically built upon the work of four historians that that documented every slave voyage they could find via manifests, independently. The work originally started in the 1960s. Eventually, in the ‘90s they were like “Hey, we should put all this information together.” It was initially on a CD-rom that I believe retailed for $400. I say all that to say, it’s a wholly incomplete piece of data. Anybody trying to use it to extrapolate the entirety of the slave trade is stupid. Domingues himself would tell you this, but he would also say that it’s the best we have to document what we’ve found. However, it’s not nearly a full account, given the vicissitudes of time, poor record keeping, etc.
On another note: we have so many brehs trying to self-educate through social media and shyt now, and they sound absurd. WTF happened
? We need to become increasingly pro-real education, become we’ve a populous incredibly susceptible to misinformation. It’s harder to dazzle a person with real understanding of a subject with bullshyt. I had a lady tell me the other day that when white/black biracial children have to get a RhoGAM vaccine to account for the white partner’s Neanderthal DNA. She was dead ass serious too. “A hematologist taught me that.” It never occurred to her, “You know… I should look into this myself 
.” All she needed to do was hear or see that somewhere and she believed that all biracial children need a vaccine to not become a mutant or some shyt. When in reality, that vaccine is about mothers with a negative blood type.
People are crazy.
.I’m doing my PhD at Rice where Slave Voyages is actually hosted. I’m not a historian, but I’m pretty cool with Prof. Domingues, the dude that RUNS Slave Voyages and inputs the data into the website from archives and ship manifests. I took his graduate seminar course “the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade” last fall. He would tell you himself there is no way to fully account for the number of slaves brought to the colonies/U.S., but that the number is significantly higher than 92,000. There has been so much lost to time, privateering/pirating, disaster, intentional destruction, etc., and Slave Voyages data was primarily built off archived manifests records (more on that in a bit).
Like, let’s really think about this. Let’s say you were a captain of a ship during the South Sea Company under the Asiento Contract and the economic bubble bursts. You have all these records of your dealings, which are essentially bills of sale of humans and 5 years pass, ten year pass, 15 years pass, and so forth. You don’t have Google Docs, Google Drive, Cloud storage, Numbers, Excel, the BOX, etc. This shyt is stored in a tattered paper book you keep somewhere in the corner. Are you still holding onto that bill of sale of humans? Probably fukking not. Do you still have that bill of sale for that 2000 Mitsubishi Galant you used to have? Probably not, and that wasn’t even some demonic shyt you were a part of that you would most likely want to get rid of.
Slave Voyages is basically built upon the work of four historians that that documented every slave voyage they could find via manifests, independently. The work originally started in the 1960s. Eventually, in the ‘90s they were like “Hey, we should put all this information together.” It was initially on a CD-rom that I believe retailed for $400. I say all that to say, it’s a wholly incomplete piece of data. Anybody trying to use it to extrapolate the entirety of the slave trade is stupid. Domingues himself would tell you this, but he would also say that it’s the best we have to document what we’ve found. However, it’s not nearly a full account, given the vicissitudes of time, poor record keeping, etc.
On another note: we have so many brehs trying to self-educate through social media and shyt now, and they sound absurd. WTF happened
? We need to become increasingly pro-real education, become we’ve a populous incredibly susceptible to misinformation. It’s harder to dazzle a person with real understanding of a subject with bullshyt. I had a lady tell me the other day that when white/black biracial children have to get a RhoGAM vaccine to account for the white partner’s Neanderthal DNA. She was dead ass serious too. “A hematologist taught me that.” It never occurred to her, “You know… I should look into this myself .” All she needed to do was hear or see that somewhere and she believed that all biracial children need a vaccine to not become a mutant or some shyt. When in reality, that vaccine is about mothers with a negative blood type.People are crazy.
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Yaboysix
That nikka
What was the slave to white ratio on the ships? Why the Fck didn't the slaves take over ?
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Theres nothing intelligent about that online fringe movement.
Caponeflowers
Pro
How many of the died on the way to America and the rest of the world is the real question
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Listen. People are just stupid
I’m doing my PhD at Rice where Slave Voyages is actually hosted. I’m not a historian, but I’m pretty cool with Prof. Domingues, the dude that RUNS Slave Voyages and inputs the data into the website from archives and ship manifests. I took his graduate seminar course “the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade” last fall. He would tell you himself there is no way too fully account for the number of slaves brought to the colonies/U.S., but that the number is significantly higher than 92,000. There has been so much lost to time, privateering/pirating, disaster, intentional destruction, etc., and Slave Voyages data was primarily built off archived manifests records (more on that in a bit).
Like, let’s really think about this. Let’s say you were a captain of a ship during the South Sea Company under the Asiento Contract and the economic bubble bursts. You have all these records of your dealings, which are essentially bills of sale of humans and 5 years pass, ten year pass, 15 years pass, and so forth. You don’t have Google Docs, Google Drive, Cloud storage, Numbers, Excel, the BOX, etc. This shyt is stored in a tattered paper book you keep somewhere in the corner. Are you still holding onto that bill of sale of humans? Probably fukking not. Do you still have that bill of sale for that 2000 Mitsubishi Galant you used to have? Probably not, and that wasn’t even some demonic shyt you were a part of that you would most likely want to get rid of.
Slave Voyages is basically built upon the work of four historians that that documented every slave voyage they could find via manifests, independently. The work originally started in the 1960s. Eventually, in the ‘90s they were like “Hey, we should put all this information together.” It was initially on a CD-rom that I believe retailed for $400. I say all that say, it’s a wholly incomplete piece of data. Anybody trying to use it to extrapolate the entirety of the slave trade is stupid. Domingues himself would tell you this, but he would also say that it’s the best we have to document what we’ve found. However, it’s not nearly a full account, given the vicissitudes of time, poor record keeping, etc.
On another note: we have so many brehs trying to self-educate through social media and shyt now, and they sound absurd. WTF happened
People are crazy.
Youre being nice. These “wE bEeN hERe” folks are DUMB!
In finding a 16 year old with my African last name who was taken from the Blight of Benin in 1834, the only reason there was record of him on slave voyage.com was because his boat on route to Cuba was intercepted by an international body that banned slavery. The boat was rerouted to Sierra Leone where his name was documented and he was then released. Thousands of rescued Africans have his story which resulted in why Yoruba people are in Sierra Leone known as the Aku people.
NBA player Victor Oladipo is from Sierra Leone yet has a Yoruba name.
Those circumstances are the only reason I know of my bloodline being impacted by the slave trade. Who knows how many other relatives of mines werent rescued? Whose names were never accounted for?
It saddens me….
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
shyty fringe movement chatter
Dzali OG
Dz Ali OG...Pay me like you owe me!
What you displayed here is a major component of these black conscious pseudo movements. That last sentence "why the fukk didn't the slaves take over" is WHY you and many others choose the pseudo route.
You have some type of embarrassment and revisionist astonishment that white people had black men chained up on a ship. To cope with this you'll ask all types of dishonest questions like "where's the boats", "you ciuldnt cross the Atlantic in the boats of that time", or "its impossible to keep people packed up for that long" or "where did they store the drinking water". I told you...I know every question because I asked them myself in my pseudo days.
I want you to read a full book, brother. A book written for adult readers.
Here are some legitimate suggestions:
Scenes of Subjection by. Saidiya Hartman;
The Supression of the African Slave Trade by. W.E.B. Du Bois;
Slavery and Capitalism by. Eric Williams;
How Europe Underdeveloped Africa by. Walter Rodney;
The Wretched of the Earth by. Frantz Fanon;
A People’s History of the United States by. Howard Zinn;
Stop mainlining these bullshyt videos about how there was no slave trade, all of these pretendian nonsense, etc.