ALL TIME....THE HEART BREAK KID SHAWN MICHAELS...or the MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE...REAL simple

[puppetmaster]

I dig both cats but Randy Savage got this.

There's just too much of his overall style present in HBK's work for me to put Shawn over him. Shawn was smart to walk when he did tho, he was still better than most of his peers when he bounced. I wasn't watching TNA in the early days so I didn't have to endure watching Randy's career end how it did live(I wish I hadn't gone back and watched his last few matches there because it was sad to see such a great on that note) Randy was in the wrong company during the late 90's

I can't put many above Randy at his best. ..dude was damn near a perfect wrestler IMO

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

MICHAELS ALMOST QUIT THE BUSINESS AT ONE POINT BUT SAVAGE TALKED HIM INTO STAYING, MEAN GENE!

"If you stay, there's a chance. If you leave, there's no chance."

 

[PYRRHUS 88]

I just chose two mania matches breh...savages match with warrior was a goat finish too so it goes both ways dont overthink it

Okay gotcha, I thought you were saying those matches you mentioned were their Mania GOATness nominations

How about the fact that HBK had consensus 5-star MOTYs at WrestleManias 16 years apart. That's like if Savage had a bona fide classic match at WrestleMania 19 when in reality, Randy hadn't had a classic in 10+ years by then

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

HBK, even though im a stand im trying to be unbiased as i can

IMO Shawn never went through a period where it seemed like he was going through the motions.

Macho towards the end of his WCW career did. Which in his defense is in no way shape or form his fault. All the legends except for Hogan was misused.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

another thing you gotta consider is who did they beat.

hbk beat a prime bret hart... at mania... for the title. that's pretty damn impressive.

who would you say is the best guy savage ever beat clean? flair maybe?

 

[Ill Lou Malnati]

another thing you gotta consider is who did they beat.

hbk beat a prime bret hart... at mania... for the title. that's pretty damn impressive.

who would you say is the best guy savage ever beat clean? flair maybe?

Doesn't factor into it for me, unless we're kayfabing, which I don't think we are. Most of Savage's highest-profile matches ended with him losing.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

Doesn't factor into it for me, unless we're kayfabing, which I don't think we are. Most of Savage's highest-profile matches ended with him losing.

It's all relative my brother.

If savage were a big enough star to beat hogan, warrior, etc... then he would have.

there's a reason HBK lost to Austin at mania, cause austin was better. He was hotter.

Kayfaybe runs parallel to real life

 

[Henzo]

savage was trash in wcw other than that galactic hitlist ether to Bret Hart

somebody link that

fukk it i will



2:10

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

i cant speak on all time but personally HBK is my GOAT

Mach is my hero

 

[R=G]

It's all relative my brother.

If savage were a big enough star to beat hogan, warrior, etc... then he would have.

there's a reason HBK lost to Austin at mania, cause austin was better. He was hotter.

Kayfaybe runs parallel to real life

Michaels beat no one of note. He has all unclean victories over Taker...they had him beat Bret who was never the star Macho was....he was owned by Diesel, celebrities, and pushed out two years after entering the main event.

 

[I-Hate-You]

HBShizzle stans gonna break out the aliases to make this close?

savage was trash in wcw other than that galactic hitlist ether to Bret Hart

somebody link that

fukk it i will



2:10

all that shyt is still true about shytman too

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

Michaels beat no one of note. He has all unclean victories over Taker...they had him beat Bret who was never the star Macho was....he was owned by Diesel, celebrities, and pushed out two years after entering the main event.

but this is what i'm sayin though. it's all relative. taker never lost to hbk cause he never had to. that's not a knock on shawn but it DOES kinda give us an idea what his ceiling was.

but you can't say he didn't beat anyone of note. like i said, he did beat a prime bret hart for the championship.

 

[Henzo]

Mach was losing to vanilla midgets like Steamboat

At least HBGOAT lost to good wrestlers

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

Michaels beat no one of note. He has all unclean victories over Taker...they had him beat Bret who was never the star Macho was....he was owned by Diesel, celebrities, and pushed out two years after entering the main event.

Bret Hart was NEVER the star Macho Man was. nikka you must be high.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

Mach was losing to vanilla midgets like Steamboat

At least HBGOAT lost to good wrestlers

who did he lose to?

was mach in his prime?

was he a heel or did he have the people behind him going in.

all questions you need to consider.