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It's quite the opposite. I don't think we're speaking as nit-picking WWE defenders, but people that are so put off by WWE's corniness that we don't want to see more of it with such a strong possible clean slate.

It's like how WWF was embarrassing in the early to mid-90s with the stupid cartoony characters, so WCW grabbed the 18-35 male demographic by introducing something modern and cool. WWE is hard to watch, so we're rooting for AEW to be fresh.

I don't know if you follow boxing, but it's like what's happening with the heavyweight division right now. It's been boring for as long as WCW went out of business so they're kind of parallel. Lennox Lewis was the last star, and since then it's been dominated by skilled, but some might say boring Euros, so it hasn't had that big fight feel for a while. Now that some heavyweight stars are buzzing again after so long, a lot of high hopes are being put into the guys vying to unify the belts right now.

So I just think we're all hoping that this shot the Khans are taking leads to "bringing the heavyweight division back", so we can get another mainstream product where the whole product is cool and there's less of the same old corniness to look past.


WCW always had the older demographic of wrestling fans on deck, since the NWA days. the WWF was always geared towards the kids. the only thing different in the mid-90s is that the WWF had no draws.

wrestling was has been in much better shape than heavyweight boxing. people just refuse to tale a peak outside of the WWE plantation. TNA & ROH were light-years ahead of the WWE in quality for many moons.

and yall gotta realize that pro wrestling as a whole is "corny" period. theres always a stigma attached to it. people are gonna look at you sideways whenever they come to the realization that you like wrestling just as much or more than basketball, football, etc.


Sean Ross just said it was Randy Orton

AEW Reportedly In Talks with Randy Orton



so theyre gonna break the bank on randy orton?? SMH. this is something people should be complaining about. not joey ryan. LOL.

usos is a dope pickup. especially NAOMI.
 

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WCW always had the older demographic of wrestling fans on deck, since the NWA days. the WWF was always geared towards the kids. the only thing different in the mid-90s is that the WWF had no draws.

wrestling was has been in much better shape than heavyweight boxing. people just refuse to tale a peak outside of the WWE plantation. TNA & ROH were light-years ahead of the WWE in quality for many moons.

and yall gotta realize that pro wrestling as a whole is "corny" period. theres always a stigma attached to it. people are gonna look at you sideways whenever they come to the realization that you like wrestling just as much or more than basketball, football, etc.

That’s my exact point about WWE. They got the middle school humor goofy hijinx on lock, I’d rather the competition stick to a hard hitting product as opposed to a jokey one. I don’t need AEW to reinvent the wheel, but after eating good off NJPW, Stardom and Lucha Underground all these years I know that promoters can create a compelling wrestling company for adults if they choose to. I’m not worried about a stigma for watching wrestling, I just enjoy the sports aspect of New Japan and the deep storytelling in LU, but the smark cheese factor and dikk jokes do nothing for me, so while we’re all waiting to see what AEW is going to be, my hope as a fan is that the cheese is kept to a minimum.

Like in LU, there’s plenty of humor but it’s more like an acid trip and a Grand Theft Auto/Better Call Saul type feel at times. That’s a style choice, and when they brought Joey Ryan in, the storytelling came first and his gimmick wasn’t as over the top.

Again, it has nothing to do with being stuck on WWE because I’m not. I’m just hoping with the money they’re putting into this they lean more toward dope feuds, stories and big fight feel, and less popping the crowd with jokes. They could easily keep the fans they already have by too sweeting everyone, spamming superkicks, and doing the dikk lollipop, but it’d be cool if they keep challenging themselves. A guy like Jericho being in the locker room is definitely good because he always reinvents himself.
 

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By the way, WWE upgraded Orton's contract last year and he's making around $4.5 mil guaranteed and has the third highest salary in the company. I'm assuming he's under contract for another 2-3 years and with the WWE taking care of him financially, so I think it's a stretch to believe Orton is serious about jumping.
 

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Randy Orton would be great for AEW. He’d be a fresh breath of air from nikkaz doing suicide dives/super kick/flippy stuff spots every 15 minutes. Plus he’d be a perfect heel to put up against whoever their top babyface gonna be.
 

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Orton just leveraging for more money, fukk him and Lesnar in AEW.

Jimmy Havoc is a huge fukking get, though. Wouldn't even mind a rehash of his PROGRESS arc, they kind of hinted at him having the black mark of ultraviolence on him in the vid posted, dude can wrestle with the best no question.

What the fukk are you talking about? Jimmy Havoc is 1000% garbage at fukking everything. Straight wrestling, death match, promos, looks, working out, fukking everything.
 
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