All Belts do is Collect Dust: Danny Garcia vs Lamont Peterson & KidChoc vs Lee..PBC on NBC Apr11th

[surv2syn]

This is why I try to be objective as possible and don't let the stanning/hatred cloud my judgement.

I thought Lara lost to Canelo, and I thought Peterson lost to Swift. Out of those 4 boxers, Lamont clearly had the most dominant moments.

ironically, this is how Lucas always got the robbery cry against Zab and Devon. the rounds he won, he dominated. problem is, fights are scored by number of rounds. cant dominate 5 rounds and have 7 close rounds and call it a robbery. this is why Oscar lost his 2nd fight with Shane and why he lost to Tito. Oscar outboxed them easy in the rounds he won...but he thought that was enough. He ran against Tito....and against Shane, that fight was close, Shane dominated some rounds, Oscar dominated some...but the rounds where neither dominated, Shane got the benefit of the doubt. The fighters and the corners are supposed to be counting rounds they put in the bank so they know what they need and when they need it. You dont need open scoring to know what the hell you are supposed to be doing. Peterson didnt even employ the SRL tactic.

 

[Scientific Playa]

At the end of the day, I'm not mad because I needed Lamont to lose in order to be stripped

Garcia got the official W, and is probably about to move up and vacate now

That means AB has 2 titles available to go after

do you think your AB boy could add some muscle on his legs and thighs to maybe increase his overall strength and k.o. power?

 

[krackdagawd]

Danny landed damn near nothing but gets credit For what ? Plodding forward swinging at after images ? Not being able to close the distance or cut off the ring?

nikkas winning rounds for beating up the ring ropes and shyt.

It's funny you mention Floyd Canelo at one point in the early rounds Lamont did the same exact shyt Floyd did when Canelo hit one of the ropes. nikka stuck his head out and looked at the ropes to make sure they were okay.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Can we get links for some re-watch action. Missed Quillin/Lee how was it?

 

[#SOG_soldier]

Come on breh....you just said this:






Now you saying Lamont lost after you just said it was a draw or a victory either way?

You going back to give Danny a round you gave to Lamont in order to give him the victory?

I never said Denny only won rounds 1,2,3 ,5,6,7 I was only making the point that Peterson gave the right away.

 

[Newzz]

2 of the judges had it 5-1 N 6-0 Swift

One of them late RDS I know Swift clearly won (he threw some combos N landed good punches) maybe the 10th?? N I member Lamont doin the running man in one if them late rds too

Ionno breh I didn't see it on TV...in person Swifts shots were heavier (til he gassed) in them Lamont LA Hoya rds nothing stood out as punches landed cept Dannys work to the body

Them last rds tho .... No reason Swift should a been gassed N lose all his power like that

You and I both gave Swift the 10th as well...while 2 of the 3 judges didn't

That's why I keep saying it was definitely a fight of what you prefer

You're right though, regardless of my card...it wasn't a robbery, because it was alot of close rounds that they could've scored for the Champion because he's the Champ.

 

[surv2syn]

Side note, to all the brehs in here. Good convo and respectful back and forths are right now

At the end of the day, Swift won and we won because it was a good match up and fight.

I respect yall's boxing eyes and this is gonna be a topic of controversy being it REALLY came down to what you prefer.

Salute to both Danny Garcia and Lamont Peterson for giving us a good fight:salutekobe:

I say it couldve went either way. Those last 2 cards couldve easily had Peterson as the winner...and I wouldnt be mad. There is a reason why Peterson is not an elite fighter though and he showed you why last night. The opportunity was right there and he didnt seize it. He basically couldve shut Swift out but obviously was scared to get tagged. That has to be added to his traits as a fighter. Fighting isnt just skill and game plans....u gotta have some balls sometimes too.

 

[Newzz]

U think bronerr would fight Peterson?

Never. Too close of friends...closer with Peterson than he is with Garcia and Alexander.

Peterson said he would never take it and AB just said last night he was rooting for Peterson to get the W....plus he worked with Lamont in camp to help him get ready for this fight.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

ironically, this is how Lucas always got the robbery cry against Zab and Devon. the rounds he won, he dominated. problem is, fights are scored by number of rounds. cant dominate 5 rounds and have 7 close rounds and call it a robbery. this is why Oscar lost his 2nd fight with Shane and why he lost to Tito. Oscar outboxed them easy in the rounds he won...but he thought that was enough. He ran against Tito....and against Shane, that fight was close, Shane dominated some rounds, Oscar dominated some...but the rounds where neither dominated, Shane got the benefit of the doubt. The fighters and the corners are supposed to be counting rounds they put in the bank so they know what they need and when they need it. You dont need open scoring to know what the hell you are supposed to be doing. Peterson didnt even employ the SRL tactic.

Exactly. I honestly don't know how anybody can look at Swift/Herrera or Swift/Peterson and see one guy CLEARLY winning 9 or 10 rounds. Too many close rounds and momentum swings for domination.

I think nikkas will just automatically make a dominant round mean more to themselves in their head while close rounds that nikkas win get the bushes treatment.

When you're outboxing someone it's not enough to just make a nikka miss and move around the ring. You also have to consistently score too. Defensive guys like Toney and Bryd would light you up with combos while making you miss. Somehow these new age nikkas think they're outboxing you simply because they're using some lateral movement and a few jabs.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Side note Lamonts entourage was goin at it with Swifts people all night

After the fight they started fighting... some big nikka on Lamont's side picked up Anthony Peterson like a child N got him away from the action

 

[Newzz]

do you think your AB boy could add some muscle on his legs and thighs to maybe increase his overall strength and k.o. power?

Nope. He's already big up top and has power and good strength. He just has to let his hands go more.

Emmanuel Taylor and Marcos Maidana commented on his strength and power, as well as plenty sparring partners. The problem is he doesn't REALLY open up unless he has you woozy now in order to stay defensive.

 

[patscorpio]

Side note Lamonts entourage was goin at it with Swifts people all night

After the fight they started fighting... some big nikka on Lamont's side picked up Anthony Peterson like a child N got him away from the action

thats hilarious..anthony peterson can take himself too im sure...they did mention that lamont stayed defending him when they were kids..i guess it still happening in adulthood lol

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Exactly. I honestly don't know how anybody can look at Swift/Herrera or Swift/Peterson and see one guy CLEARLY winning 9 or 10 rounds. Too many close rounds and momentum swings for domination.

I think nikkas will just automatically make a dominant round mean more to themselves in their head while close rounds that nikkas win get the bushes treatment.

When you're outboxing someone it's not enough to just make a nikka miss and move around the ring. You also have to consistently score too. Defensive guys like Toney and Bryd would light you up with combos while making you miss. Somehow these new age nikkas think they're outboxing you simply because they're using some lateral movement and a few jabs.

Lamont's jab wasn't even landing like that early...I rember thinking all Lamont is doin is jabbing N it aint even landing like that coli nikkas...

I come on here N see 6-0 peterson

Im more concerned about the gassing N lack of power late then the early RDS

Im hoping its cuz in the past 12 months he only fought them 2 RDS vs Salka

 

[Newzz]

I never said Denny only won rounds 1,2,3 ,5,6,7 I was only making the point that Peterson gave the right away.

I asked for yall to post the rounds yall gave Swift and you said:

Dañny soon rounds 1,2,3,5,6, and 7. Peterson should have been throwing more combos. Danny outlander him in power shots badly early on.

That's 6 rounds breh. That means you had it a draw

You gave Peterson rounds 4, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 then

Yup .


Either a draw or a victory either way

You said it yourself. You gave me 6 rounds Garcia won and said it could've been a draw or a victory either way....meaning Garcia could've won 7 rounds or Peterson could've won 7 rounds.

How could Peterson give the fight away if you seen it as a draw or even being the victor ("victory either way").

I mean it's cool breh, but we can't post our scorecards/rounds and then go back and change.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Lamont's jab wasn't even landing like that early...I rember thinking all Lamont is doin is jabbing N it aint even landing like that coli nikkas...

I come on here N see 6-0 peterson

Im more concerned about the gassing N lack of power late then the early RDS

Im hoping its cuz in the past 12 months he only fought them 2 RDS vs Salka

yeah I feel you, Lamont didn't have that consistent Algieri head snapping jab. He'd take 30 seconds to throw 3 jabs and would only land 1 clean.

I don't know why Swift was so gassed late, but maybe that has something to do with Lamont's pressure. When he gets going he makes it difficult to stop him. I never would of thought he'd stop ****, but he did and Swift landed all types of hard shots on ****. Even Bradley's pressure got to ****.

Pressure drains nikkas and everybody handles it differently. Lee was outboxing Chavez clean as fukk for like 3 or 4 rounds, but that pressure wore him down. Quillin's struggle pressure wasn't on the same level.