All Belts do is Collect Dust: Danny Garcia vs Lamont Peterson & KidChoc vs Lee..PBC on NBC Apr11th

[#SOG_soldier]

I'm going to rewatch it tonight but I was doing a round by round scoring in this very thread none of that scoring after the fact I'm seeing in here. :cmsas2:

I kept my card and thought canny dominated the early rounds. Peterson came on late but he dug himself a hole he couldn't climb out of

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Danny will knock carry his 5 round power to 147 for sure, unless he get dem shakes.

That was the most worrysome thing his power disappeared

Usually he carry's it with him late knockdowns of Zab, Morales N Matthysse

 

[HARLEM AL]

I hope all the nikkas that had Peterson winning, had Algieri beating Ruslan as well since he didn't clown or take as many breaks on offense as Lamont did.

Just saying.

I had Algeri winning. And Rislan did way more than what Danny did last night. nikka didn't do shyt last night but follow him around.

 

[HARLEM AL]

Where do you draw the line between running and boxing

Was he moving a lot? Yes but with that moving he was jabbing the shyt out of Danny. That right hand left hook combo didn't do shyt last night.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I had Algeri winning. And Rislan did way more than what Danny did last night. nikka didn't do shyt last night but follow him around.

Ruslan had those 2 knockdowns, but that was it for the most part imo. I do feel that he made the rounds he did lose a lil closer by landing a good shot every now and then whereas Swift had about 4 rounds where I don't recall him landing anything of note (rds 1, 2, 11, 12).


Those final rounds with Swift getting soul clapped all over the place really ain't sit well with me though. He looked dog shyt bad during those moments.

 

[TheNig]

speaking of quillin and lee...if GGG is not making his case as the top middle in the sport.those 2 just added to it by proxy..lee has a one hitter quitter but his defense and durability are just average..lee lose that belt soon enough..quillin i have no idea where this cat is headed in his career whether at middle or operating at 168

The way is looking, GGG is the best at 160. Lee is my favorite fighter at 160 and he proved why last night. Dude has no quit. GGG would beat us but it wouldn't change my rooting interest. Hell... I think we could put GGG on his ass.

Quillin is in No Man's Land right now. He's going to struggle to make 160 becuz he had no choice. He'd be dead meat at 168 and he's not a big enough name to fight anyone at a catch weight.

Speaking of catch weights. Garcia shouldn't be able to make that demand again. Next guy he gets in the ring with needs to meet him at 140 or 147. Sad part is that no one is really worth a damn at 140. If they are, he's beaten them already. But he ain't ready for the heat at 147 and he never will be.

 

[TheNig]

That right hand left hook combo didn't do shyt last night.

That trash didn't even land. Cat was punching at the air.

 

[HARLEM AL]

The way is looking, GGG is the best at 160. Lee is my favorite fighter at 160 and he proved why last night. Dude has no quit. GGG would beat us but it wouldn't change my rooting interest. Hell... I think we could put GGG on his ass.

Quillin is in No Man's Land right now. He's going to struggle to make 160 becuz he had no choice. He'd be dead meat at 168 and he's not a big enough name to fight anyone at a catch weight.

Speaking of catch weights. Garcia shouldn't be able to make that demand again. Next guy he gets in the ring with needs to meet him at 140 or 147. Sad part is that no one is really worth a damn at 140. If they are, he's beaten them already. But he ain't ready for the heat at 147 and he never will be.

GGG
Lee
Peter Q that order.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

The way is looking, GGG is the best at 160. Lee is my favorite fighter at 160 and he proved why last night. Dude has no quit. GGG would beat us but it wouldn't change my rooting interest. Hell... I think we could put GGG on his ass.

Quillin is in No Man's Land right now. He's going to struggle to make 160 becuz he had no choice. He'd be dead meat at 168 and he's not a big enough name to fight anyone at a catch weight.

Speaking of catch weights. Garcia shouldn't be able to make that demand again. Next guy he gets in the ring with needs to meet him at 140 or 147. Sad part is that no one is really worth a damn at 140. If they are, he's beaten them already. But he ain't ready for the heat at 147 and he never will be.

Catchweight prolly hurt the nikka more then anything...he still gassed lost his power N Peterson ended up outweighing him on fight night by over 10 pounds

 

[krackdagawd]

I kept my card and thought canny dominated the early rounds. Peterson came on late but he dug himself a hole he couldn't climb out of

I've never had a suspect card on here you can't give Danny more than 3 rounds for the first half of that fight TOPS.

Dudes talking about power punches Danny doesn't hit like Algieri why did Lamont have ZERO signs of damage from those "power punches" Lucas did damage to that boy face and Danny had 12 rounds of supposed damage where are the signs? I need receipts nikka

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

I hope all the nikkas that had Garcia winning this fight had Algieri losing to Provodnikov

I don't think triangle theories apply to judging either. I know there definitely are people who prefer boxing or pressure and judge accordingly. I try to balance myself in between and judge rounds based on who is being more effective in boxing, aggression, clear punching, etc.

Both the Algieri, Lara, and Peterson fights were all close and similar...but I personally judged them differently and not just on style.
I thought Provodnikov scored early with the KD's and thend Algieri started moving around making Provodnikov ineffective. I could see that some would think Algieri was running because he moved so much it didn't allow Prov to engage at all. Even though he danced all over the ring, he landed clean jabs, while Prov did nothing. I think Algieri probably deserved that decision, but I could see a draw.

Lara was running vs. Canelo. And that is the only fight recently that I would truly say that about a fighter. He wasn't boxing effectively at all to me. Canelo was applying pressure and landing decent punches. Lara showed he could land clean punches against Canelo, but wasn't doing so enough. Had he stayed in front of Canelo a la Mayeather, Lara would have probably gotten the victory. I leaned Canelo and really didn't see how people had Lara winning.

Peterson flat out did nothing the first half of the fight. He was moving around the ring and never threw any effective offense. When the fight got in closer (second half) Peterson dominated Garcia, although Danny did deserve 1 or 2 rounds in the second half of the fight. If Peterson had let the distance close just a little in the first half he could have landed some jabs and upped his offensive stats. It wasn't Peterson moving that bothered me, it is smart because Danny can't compete with that at all, it was the distance Peterson chose to do it at that looked really bad. He was so far away there was no chance for him to have any offensive effectiveness.
This fight really probably deserved to be a draw. On first watch I though Peterson got the better of the damage aspect, but probably lean towards a draw or if I had to choose was thinking Danny 7-5. It felt like Lamont gave that fight away. Had he just closed the distance just a touch in the beginning to allow him to land outside punches, he still could have kept it at a distance and he truly would have dominated the fight.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

I've never had a suspect card on here you can't give Danny more than 3 rounds for the first half of that fight TOPS.

Dudes talking about power punches Danny doesn't hit like Algieri why did Lamont have ZERO signs of damage from those "power punches" Lucas did damage to that boy face and Danny had 12 rounds of supposed damage where are the signs? I need receipts nikka

Peterson beat up Denny later in the fight that don't mean running for seven rounds didn't happen

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

C/s

When Floyd makes you miss he follows up and makes you pay usually with a pull counter...

What Peterson did was make Danny miss and keep running and that's the same shyt Lara did against Canelo...

The difference with the Lara fight is Lara never landed anything effective, hence why most pretty much agree he lost...Even though Canelo was only landing body shots, those body shots were more effective than the 3 jabs per round Lara was landing...Peterson clearly landed the harder more effective punches last night and all you need to do is take a look at Garcia's face to know that...

But they weren't really that effective til later in the fight. Watching the fight again, its hard to give lamont any of the first three rounds.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I don't think triangle theories apply to judging either. I know there definitely are people who prefer boxing or pressure and judge accordingly. I try to balance myself in between and judge rounds based on who is being more effective in boxing, aggression, clear punching, etc.

Both the Algieri, Lara, and Peterson fights were all close and similar...but I personally judged them differently and not just on style.
I thought Provodnikov scored early with the KD's and thend Algieri started moving around making Provodnikov ineffective. I could see that some would think Algieri was running because he moved so much it didn't allow Prov to engage at all. Even though he danced all over the ring, he landed clean jabs, while Prov did nothing. I think Algieri probably deserved that decision, but I could see a draw.

Lara was running vs. Canelo. And that is the only fight recently that I would truly say that about a fighter. He wasn't boxing effectively at all to me. Canelo was applying pressure and landing decent punches. Lara showed he could land clean punches against Canelo, but wasn't doing so enough. Had he stayed in front of Canelo a la Mayeather, Lara would have probably gotten the victory. I leaned Canelo and really didn't see how people had Lara winning.

Peterson flat out did nothing the first half of the fight. He was moving around the ring and never threw any effective offense. When the fight got in closer (second half) Peterson dominated Garcia, although Danny did deserve 1 or 2 rounds in the second half of the fight. If Peterson had let the distance close just a little in the first half he could have landed some jabs and upped his offensive stats. It wasn't Peterson moving that bothered me, it is smart because Danny can't compete with that at all, it was the distance Peterson chose to do it at that looked really bad. He was so far away there was no chance for him to have any offensive effectiveness.
This fight really probably deserved to be a draw. On first watch I though Peterson got the better of the damage aspect, but probably lean towards a draw or if I had to choose was thinking Danny 7-5. It felt like Lamont gave that fight away. Had he just closed the distance just a touch in the beginning to allow him to land outside punches, he still could have kept it at a distance and he truly would have dominated the fight.

Great post.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

I don't think triangle theories apply to judging either. I know there definitely are people who prefer boxing or pressure and judge accordingly. I try to balance myself in between and judge rounds based on who is being more effective in boxing, aggression, clear punching, etc.

Both the Algieri, Lara, and Peterson fights were all close and similar...but I personally judged them differently and not just on style.
I thought Provodnikov scored early with the KD's and thend Algieri started moving around making Provodnikov ineffective. I could see that some would think Algieri was running because he moved so much it didn't allow Prov to engage at all. Even though he danced all over the ring, he landed clean jabs, while Prov did nothing. I think Algieri probably deserved that decision, but I could see a draw.

Lara was running vs. Canelo. And that is the only fight recently that I would truly say that about a fighter. He wasn't boxing effectively at all to me. Canelo was applying pressure and landing decent punches. Lara showed he could land clean punches against Canelo, but wasn't doing so enough. Had he stayed in front of Canelo a la Mayeather, Lara would have probably gotten the victory. I leaned Canelo and really didn't see how people had Lara winning.

Peterson flat out did nothing the first half of the fight. He was moving around the ring and never threw any effective offense. When the fight got in closer (second half) Peterson dominated Garcia, although Danny did deserve 1 or 2 rounds in the second half of the fight. If Peterson had let the distance close just a little in the first half he could have landed some jabs and upped his offensive stats. It wasn't Peterson moving that bothered me, it is smart because Danny can't compete with that at all, it was the distance Peterson chose to do it at that looked really bad. He was so far away there was no chance for him to have any offensive effectiveness.
This fight really probably deserved to be a draw. On first watch I though Peterson got the better of the damage aspect, but probably lean towards a draw or if I had to choose was thinking Danny 7-5. It felt like Lamont gave that fight away. Had he just closed the distance just a touch in the beginning to allow him to land outside punches, he still could have kept it at a distance and he truly would have dominated the fight.

Incredibly important in why I couldn't give him those early rounds. It wasn't until Garcia finally threw his hands up in the air and said, "come on, what the fukk are you doing?" that lamont got closer and made it an actual fight.