All Belts do is Collect Dust: Danny Garcia vs Lamont Peterson & KidChoc vs Lee..PBC on NBC Apr11th

[surv2syn]

This is what I was thinking. The "boxing" Peterson was doing was not what Mayweather (or Rigo) does. They can not be the aggressor, avoid your offense, yet still entirely get the better of you and control the pace of the fight. Peterson did a less effective version of Lara vs. Canelo. He totally avoided engaging and was moving around. With Danny being the aggressor in stalking and throwing more punches, and Danny landing equal to slightly more punches, I think Danny deserved most of the first part of the fight. It would not have take much for Lamont to steal those rounds clearly.
When the fight went toe to toe, Lamont was clearly the better fighter. A little more activity and setting his feet early on and Lamont would have nothing to complain about, he would have won easily visually and on the cards.

I think people need to take into consideration that this is what makes one fighter better than another also. how they approach a fight. everybody has a belt these days but I am careful at who I call a champion. Swift was able to get a win/draw based more off of what Peterson didnt do. if Peterson really wanted to take his career to the next level, he shouldve fought for 12 rounds. anything less is below true world championship caliber performance. he had too many ups and down in his career to not come out and leave it all in the ring.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

140 was set up better match up wise for Danny. 147 is gonna be rough.

Stay at 140 Swift and go after Terrence Crawford. 140 looking tougher now.

 

[Black_Jesus]

no, no, no. fukk no. Lucas is a notorious slow starter, thats one of the reasons he looked like a killer after destroying Lamont. Lucas again started slow against Swift and I thought he showed him too much respect. you cant win at the top level by trying to start fighting after the 4th round. the first 3 rounds are critical for anyone at the top level. dudes need to learn that.

I dont know what fight you were watching, but Matthysse was up on Swift the fist half of that fight.. My response to @patscorpio comments about Swift making easy work of LM, I was just saying the work didn't get easy until LM lost one of his eyes.. It was downhill from that point even with Swift getting his mouthpiece knocked out his mouth. .. Had that been the Master Boxer he was in the ring with, fight might've ended another way

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

if its not a robbery, how can it be a bullsht decision??


egregious=robbery = bullsht decision

A robbery implies one guy clearly won the fight and got screwed on the decision...

Neither one of these guys clearly won the fight last night but Garcia did absolutely nothing to deserve the decision...At best if you're giving Garcia rounds based off Peterson's idiotic inactivity that made rounds unnecessarily close this fight is a draw...Garcia did not win 7 rounds last night, chasing a guy around the ring doesn't give you points...Aggression counts when its effective, ie cutting off the ring and landing punches...Even if those punches are blocked, odds are you're outworking the other guy which counts...what Garcia did is the opposite of that last night, he was ineffective...Garcia spent 12 rounds chasing and eating jabs and straight rights...He begged Peterson to come to him and when Peterson did he slapped Garcia around the ring like a rag doll...In the championship rounds where close fights are won Peterson beat that ass silly...

That's why the decision is bullshyt IMO...The guy that got his ass whooped throughout the majority of the fight got the decision...

 

[surv2syn]

I dont know what fight you were watching, but Matthysse was up on Swift the fist half of that fight.. My response to @patscorpio comments about Swift making easy work of LM, I was just saying the work didn't get easy until LM lost one of his eyes.. Had that been the Master Boxer he was in the ring with, fight might've ended another way

I didnt say he wasnt up, I said he started slow. What I am saying is....guys who are murderous punchers, usually come out the gate with a seek and destroy mentality. as the fight goes on, especially against boxers....the likelihood of them winning gets smaller. Lucas is one of the few punchers that starts so slow. its the reason why he has all those L's. even gotta give GGG credit for that. some guys take the 1st round to feel you out but by the 2nd or 3rd round they would have turned up the heat considerably. Stevenson, Kovalev, Manny, Walters, etc....

 

[Newzz]

This nikka popped up out the blue

 

[Black_Jesus]

I didnt say he wasnt up, I said he started slow. What I am saying is....guys who are murderous punchers, usually come out the gate with a seek and destroy mentality. as the fight goes on, especially against boxers....the likelihood of them winning gets smaller. Lucas is one of the few punchers that starts so slow. its the reason why he has all those L's. even gotta give GGG credit for that. some guys take the 1st round to feel you out but by the 2nd or 3rd round they would have turned up the heat considerably. Stevenson, Kovalev, Manny, Walters, etc....

I dont get what you mean when you say Lucas started off slow... He won 4, if not, 5 rounds in the first half.. That was a great start.. The moment his eye closed in the 6th it was down hill from there. Swift could do whatever he wanted to do... Had his eye not closed, LM would've won a lopsided victory

 

[Newzz]

Shane Mosley going in...

 

[Black_Jesus]

Shane Mosley going in...

Someone has to

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Im driving home so I can only speak on seeing the fight in person

Peterson gave that fight away...I was right next to Peterson fans, drooling Irish fans...errybody was goin why is this nikka running N not throwing punches he's giving rds away...at no point in time was people like peterson outboxing

We saw farhoods scorecards on the screen N it confirmed what we all saw from our seats

Swift didn't get swept last 6 rds either


He lost them last two rounds...gassed N no power which was weird cuz his power usually stays with him late

 

[GzUp]

Shane Mosley going in...

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

danny having issues with the likes of postol and algieri is now very fathomable

I'd bet on Algieri if they fought...

The only thing I would fear is the fix...

 

[Figaro]

I scored it a draw but i can see 115-113 either way, based on all those close rounds.

Danny 'The Gift' Garcia looked ordinary out there to me but still banked rounds against a decent fight....Garcia might be feeling his power too much now days.

 

[Newzz]

I guarantee if that was Floyd last night, doing exactly what Lamont did, people would've said he beat Danny Garcia

 

[#SOG_soldier]

I guarantee if that was Floyd last night, doing exactly what Lamont did, people would've said he beat Danny Garcia

Floyd don't run. He put shots and can put together offense when he needs to.

Peterson looked a lot more like Lara last night