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We are the richest but not in the top 10 or 15 on these lists. Don't you wonder why? And I didn't cut shyt man. lol
Now those budget numbers you threw out are they realistic? lol You need her to explicitly say, "I want to cut the military budget." before you believe she wants to cut the military budget? OK.


because people are obese
we have higher murder rates
we are melting pot of different cultures who have not fully assimilated
we are rich because through innovation and technology rich people live here and create a large disparity between rich and poor

there's various reasons why we are the happiest nation or from a metric standpoint the best nation. I'm happy being #18-#20 out of 230+ nations but we should strive for more, but what makes you think we need to revamp the entire economy to do so (green new deal) or pay for college education (which by the way, using your list we are #6 The 10 most educated countries in the world) in education. These are fool's gold and costly initiatives

Yes she has spoken very clearly on what she wants to do, which is continue spending. Khanna who is a disciple of the same school also hasn't touted this and believes austerity measures are fools gold and believes we should continue to deficit spend. Not one of them have specifically stated they want to cut military spending period.
 

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we aren't going back because taxing rich at a stuid high rate doesn't make sense...go look at France to see if your Robin Hood theory works. If we want to follow Sweden or Norway or Denmark, then you will see the government not interfering in the private industry in those nations and that offset is with higher taxes across the board. Happy to go that route, but that means no "new green deal", and no blanket government paying for all healthcare and education. Also no minimum wage (since those countries don't have one!) lol
Sweden has government funded healthcare.
 

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gat damn this is a load of bullshyt. We are way better than the majority of those euro countries with exception (argue) of Nordic countries, which aren't socialist at all either, they are capitalistic. All the socialist leaning countries in Europe are failures , France, Spain, Italy, Greece all abysmal economies and people can't find jobs! US issued a safety net and given free everything to people to help them be part of the labor force and many of them succeeded in doing so. But people took for granted alot of these programs , you have kids not finishing highschool for various reasons and not being porductive members of society - how is that 100% government fault? I'm not going to debate with you because you have no idea what you're talking about, just spouting nonsense.


Again if everyone in a community get sick the system is sick

This country has a lot of resources but people keep falling behind other nations in both education, life expectancy and debt

number one debt factor is health care , number one for foreclosure of homes

every other develop nation has a better health care system then we do

something broken man
 

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i like ocasio swing for the fences attitude

i just dont know if its good to play your cards like that in public

better to focus on some passable legislation and getting impeachment sent to senate
 

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agent denotes they work for someone. Who?


well i was being slightly facetious - i really don't know the communist or socialist network like that. And don't want to get into some McCarthyism allegations but it's very strange the emergence of this and the vigor and noting what we've seen with new age propaganda , someone or something is definitely boosting socialism idealogy and it's not even being checked.
 

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If AOC was as ridiculous as people claim she is, then she wouldn't get as much attention and traction as she's getting.
If the system worked as well as people claimed, then she'd be talking to an empty room.

The fact is the 29 year old, freshman Congresswoman who danced in college is the future and the result of a breaking system. Baby boomers are to blame.
 

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and noting what we've seen with new age propaganda , someone or something is definitely boosting socialism idealogy and it's not even being checked.

When poverty and racism were rampant in the US in the 1960s, the communist/socialist ideology was very popular.
When poverty and racism were rampant in the US in the 2010s, the communist/socialist ideology is very popular.

There might be a trend. :jbhmm:
 

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because people are obese
we have higher murder rates
we are melting pot of different cultures who have not fully assimilated
we are rich because through innovation and technology rich people live here and create a large disparity between rich and poor

there's various reasons why we are the happiest nation or from a metric standpoint the best nation. I'm happy being #18-#20 out of 230+ nations but we should strive for more, but what makes you think we need to revamp the entire economy to do so (green new deal) or pay for college education (which by the way, using your list we are #6 The 10 most educated countries in the world) in education. These are fool's gold and costly initiatives

Yes she has spoken very clearly on what she wants to do, which is continue spending. Khanna who is a disciple of the same school also hasn't touted this and believes austerity measures are fools gold and believes we should continue to deficit spend. Not one of them have specifically stated they want to cut military spending period.
I want is to be #1. And obesity is directly correlated to deficient healthcare. And I am also for extreme gun control.
So we have too many rich peolpe skewing the numbers?! :mjlol: Wow that's dumb.
Free public college would be less than 10% of the military budget. It's not that costly.
And while a geeeg new deal would be costly doing nothing would be devastating and way more costly after an environmental disaster. Let's be proactive.
 

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what happens long term to a hot econonmy and deficit spending. What happens when our economy is hot , low unemployment, and government is spending out of control.
If unemployment is low and there’s a lot of currency circulating the economy due to high government spending, then you’re at risk of inflation, and you should increase taxes to decrease that currency flow. Notice, government debt or deficit has nothing to do with this, it’s inflation, employment, and the social good that are/should be the key goals and metrics of governmental action.

Governemnt does not pay for expenditure by ading or subtracting numbers in a computer. I'm not going to have a conversation with someone about the economy who says stuff like that, because it shows you have no idea wtf you're talking about, respectfully speaking. you don' t understand it so you're minimalizing it to "numbers on a computer" - all these organizaation and fed banking systems an dprogrammes but hey it's just some numbers on a computer LOL!
Where do you think the government gets the money to pay for its expenditures? When they give out SS payments, what do you think that process looks like?

And it's not "just numbers on a computer", those numbers are very important. The point is that those numbers don't have to abide by the same financial physics of a household/personal budget. Private citizens are constrained by the fact they cannot print legal tender, while the US government is the sole issuer of the US dollar. When a private citizen gets into debt, they cannot just conjure up the money to pay it off. The US government can. It can never run out of US currency anymore than Walmart can run out of Walmart gift cards. By that token, they have to worry about inflation and unemployment and the social good, whereas the private citizen simply has to worry about their own financial situation. Being in "debt" of US currency means totally different things to the two groups.
 
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