Alexandria Ocasio Cortez - "Not All Dems Are The Same"

[Warren Moon]

So if MOST politicians release those plans publicly before they are even signed in to office, then it should be easy for you to list some great ones that made their way into law.

I'll ask you again - Name the five best actionable plans that a U.S. Congressman has put forth in the 21st century where were actually carried out in a successful matter and made the country better. Now you're talking like congressmen who aren't even in office yet have loads of these awesome actionable plans just waiting to get signed into law, so lets hear it. You already failed to meet the challenge the first time I proposed it, I'm giving you a second chance.

While we're on it, who are your five favorite congressmen anyway?






That "Opportunity Zones" bullshyt was a pure tax writeoff windfall for Kushner and his friends, good luck seeing that help any actual Black people. The First Step Act is an extremely watered-down version of something the Democrats have proposed for years. The Farm Bill additions are a small positive but they ain't affecting the direction of the country at all.

But beyond the fact that you just posted three extremely marginal changes, you didn't meet the challenge at all. Were those three changes the result of actionable plans that Congressmen had posted publicly before they even been signed into office? And were those the BEST things you've seen this country do in the last 20 years?

If you really believe that that crap you posted is #goals and the most we should be pressuring our politicians to strive for.

Opportunity zones have been publically been endorsed by the great majority of black centric economists 70%of our ppl are located in them.

Why are y’all Nikkas caping so hard for this chick?


Even when you compare her to other liberal left wing new congress members, they blow her out of the water

Ayanna Presley’s agenda

Equity Agenda for the 7th District - Ayanna Pressley for Congress


Well thought out ideas with plans on how to accomplish it, even if it doesn’t happen she has some idea on how to do it.

And she’s black

Compared to

Alexandria Cortez

Ocasio 2018: Vote November 6th


Has ideas with ZERO supporting points on how to do it at all.


The proofs right there! Read it yourself.
This isn’t even a right/left issue, it’s someone just spitting out talking points when she can’t even support them on her election page. For fukks sake stop drinking the kool aid

 

[Warren Moon]

Are you sure? She doesn't seem to be shutting up now does she? And actually her ideas are popular and she has plans to do the actionable writing you require. Sit down, read a book and wait for it. lol


Poll: Majorities of both parties support Green New Deal

Even when you compare her to other liberal left wing new congress members, they blow her out of the water

Ayanna Presley’s agenda

Equity Agenda for the 7th District - Ayanna Pressley for Congress


Well thought out ideas with plans on how to accomplish it, even if it doesn’t happen she has some idea on how to do it.

And she’s black

Compared to

Alexandria Cortez

Ocasio 2018: Vote November 6th

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Even when you compare her to other liberal left wing new congress members, they blow her out of the water

Ayanna Presley’s agenda

Equity Agenda for the 7th District - Ayanna Pressley for Congress


Well thought out ideas with plans on how to accomplish it, even if it doesn’t happen she has some idea on how to do it.

And she’s black

Compared to

Alexandria Cortez

Ocasio 2018: Vote November 6th

I like Ayanna Presley, Rashida Tlaib, Lauren Underwood and Ilhan Omar a lot. It's not a one or the other type scenario breh. So wait for it. lol

 

[Warren Moon]

I like Ayanna Presley, Rashida Tlaib, Lauren Underwood and Ilhan Omar a lot. It's not a one or the other type scenario breh. So wait for it. lol

I’m cool with that.I wish Ayanna came in the same time as trump, I think she’d be a legit candidate for president or vp. I just hate how ppl think Alexandria Cortez is leading some type of movement. No! She just tweets stuff that sounds good with nothing to support her.

If you have an agenda you want to accomplish, prop up someone who has an “actual plan” to get that done! Not so media darling who has provided nothing to support her ideas! It’s stupid.​

 

[Professor Emeritus]

That's twice in a row that he hasn't been able to give even a single response to the challenge.

Ayanna Presley’s agenda

Equity Agenda for the 7th District - Ayanna Pressley for Congress


Well thought out ideas with plans on how to accomplish it, even if it doesn’t happen she has some idea on how to do it.

And she’s black

Compared to

Alexandria Cortez

Ocasio 2018: Vote November 6th

I ain't gonna shyt on Ayanna, she looks like the real deal, her and AOC are obviously gonna be working together too. In fact:



So if you're shytting on AOC for publicly advocating for the Green New Deal without presenting a detailed plan, then I'm guessing we already have the plan from Ayanna, so we're good there, right?

If you like Ayanna or any other Congressman, then start a thread on them. Coming in to shyt on AOC for promoting the SAME plan that Ayanna is promoting pretty much shows that you have another agenda here. Why the hell would you put those two against each other?


p.s. - that AOC page you're hating on had nine different specific, already-written Congressional acts that she endorses. Ain't that specific?

Opportunity zones have been publically been endorsed by the great majority of black centric economists 70%of our ppl are located in them.

This is literally the ONLY reason that opportunity zones got put into the tax bill. Unless you're advocating that AOC and the rest of Congress find was to kiss Trump's daughter's ass and find kickbacks for her and her husband, it's a pretty irrelevant example. And you STILL haven't shown how it was the result of a Congressman's pre-existing public plan - in fact it was the direct result of Tim Scott's deliberations with Trump's daughter, which has nothing whatsoever to do with public plans and will almost certainly benefit wealthy developers far more than Black people.

Investors seek out safer bets in Opportunity Zones

Jared Kushner-founded firm buys hot real estate under program for poor

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‘Opportunity Zones’ Potential Windfall for Developers, Investors | WNYC | New York Public Radio, Podcasts, Live Streaming Radio, News

Ivanka Trump reportedly advocated for a tax break she and Jared Kushner could profit from

Ivanaka Trump, Jared Kushner Opportunity Zone program could benefit them

White House boosts tax break that's attracted Kushner, Scaramucci and other wealthy investors - CNNPolitics

Why are y’all Nikkas caping so hard for this chick?
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For fukks sake stop drinking the kool aid

I praise her when she says the right thing, and I defend her when someone's attack on her is stupid. That is the ENTIRE extent of my "caping" for her, and I'd do the same for any politician who looks like they got their agenda right.

 

[Warren Moon]

That's twice in a row that he hasn't been able to give even a single response to the challenge.




I ain't gonna shyt on Ayanna, she looks like the real deal, her and AOC are obviously gonna be working together too. In fact:



So if you're shytting on AOC for publicly advocating for the Green New Deal without presenting a detailed plan, then I'm guessing we already have the plan from Ayanna, so we're good there, right?

If you like Ayanna or any other Congressman, then start a thread on them. Coming in to shyt on AOC for promoting the SAME plan that Ayanna is promoting pretty much shows that you have another agenda here. Why the hell would you put those two against each other?




This is literally the ONLY reason that opportunity zones got put into the tax bill. Unless you're advocating that AOC and the rest of Congress find was to kiss Trump's daughter's ass and find kickbacks for her and her husband, it's a pretty irrelevant example. And you STILL haven't shown how it was the result of a Congressman's pre-existing public plan - in fact it was the direct result of Tim Scott's deliberations with Trump's daughter, which has nothing whatsoever to do with public plans and will almost certainly benefit wealthy developers far more than Black people.

Investors seek out safer bets in Opportunity Zones

Jared Kushner-founded firm buys hot real estate under program for poor

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

‘Opportunity Zones’ Potential Windfall for Developers, Investors | WNYC | New York Public Radio, Podcasts, Live Streaming Radio, News

Ivanka Trump reportedly advocated for a tax break she and Jared Kushner could profit from

Ivanaka Trump, Jared Kushner Opportunity Zone program could benefit them

White House boosts tax break that's attracted Kushner, Scaramucci and other wealthy investors - CNNPolitics





I praise her when she says the right thing, and I defend her is someone's attack on her is stupid. That is the ENTIRE extent of my "caping" for her, and I'd do the same for any politician who looks like they got their agenda right.

I’m not pitting them against each other. Just clearly showing two new congresswomen with the same ideas. One actually has a plan, one obviously doesn’t.

Yes opportunity zones help developers tremendously. I live in Atlanta black
Developers have opp zones on lock. In rural areas they bring jobs.

Even in poor rural areas, the poorest rural areas are disproportionately black across the board.

If we want to accomplish goals push somebody else to the front. Not this woman! I'm only shytting on her bc ppl going hard for her, bc of her ideas. But no one can tell me how? When ppl with her same ideas have well thought out plans!

Public persona is power in Congress, put somebody in power who can get stuff done. Not someone who tweets to ppl what they want to hear.


I will continue shytting on her bc she is not the one to lead any movement, her webpage clearly states that. I’m not going to sit idle while ppl champion her it’s idiotic

I want to actually accomplish stuff not retweets

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I’m not pitting them against each other. Just clearly showing two new congresswomen with the same ideas. One actually has a plan, one obviously doesn’t.

Ayanna has a plan for the Green New Deal that's different than what AOC has done? Where?

 

[Warren Moon]

Ayanna has a plan for the Green New Deal that's different than what AOC has done? Where?

You sure it’s hers. You read she created and presented the deal

 

[Warren Moon]

You sure it’s hers. You read she created and presented the deal

Is it bc she posted this? She admits she didn’t plan or develop shyt. She’s a tweeter not a policy maker

 

[Secure Da Bag]

She isn't wrong though.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You sure it’s hers. You read she created and presented the deal

You really bad with this receipts thing, aren't you? Keep moving the goalposts instead, eh?

You attacked AOC for talking about the Green New Deal without a definitive plan, but when I pushed you to show someone moving differently you held up Ayanna as an example even though she doing the exact same thing in regards to the Green New Deal.

You claim that freshmen legislators who haven't even been sworn in yet should have detailed actionable plans posted publicly for all of their proposed policies, but you still haven't come up with even ONE example where that has directly resulted in meaningful change.

Show me an example of someone doing the things you say AOC needs to do, and it making a difference. I'm still waiting for receipts.

Is it bc she posted this? She admits she didn’t plan or develop shyt. She’s a tweeter not a policy maker

There are 435 members of the House of Representatives. Most of them go years without anything they've written ever getting passed. Most of your favorite congressmen have probably only penned 1-2 successful pieces of legislation in their entire careers, if even that.

We don't need Congressmen who will write the bills, they got staff for that and most of this shyt is written and re-written in committee anyway and bears little relation to whatever some damn freshman might have written down before they were even signed in. What we need is Congressmen who will change the conversation, potentially even shift the Overton Window, and bring meaningful initiatives to the forefront. And so far she's doing that. Which strangely you see as a negative.

 

[Perfectson]

Are you sure? She doesn't seem to be shutting up now does she? And actually her ideas are popular and she has plans to do the actionable writing you require. Sit down, read a book and wait for it. lol


Poll: Majorities of both parties support Green New Deal

here you go with that fake poll, i already gave you mad info about it, where the respondents didn't know wtf it actually was (nor does AOC). The idea of a greener planet is awesome but it's not her idea, it's not new, and unless has a way to get it implemented successfully without destroying America's economy, then it lacks any substance.

 

[Perfectson]

She isn't wrong though.

lol - she won a race.

she didn't put green into a national conversations - Obama did, JIll Scott did as well. No one is talking about the new green deal, except her which has created some media coverage but there's nothing to actually talk about because there's yet any actual substance.

LOL@#3 how is she even measuring that? LMFAO

you guys can't tell she's an attention whore ? Like really? Look at what we (I) did before I swore in lol..."shone new lvl transparency to gov" LMFAO!!!

 

[AnonymityX1000]

here you go with that fake poll, i already gave you mad info about it, where the respondents didn't know wtf it actually was (nor does AOC). The idea of a greener planet is awesome but it's not her idea, it's not new, and unless has a way to get it implemented successfully without destroying America's economy, then it lacks any substance.

You sure it was me? I'm not reading all your replies just the ones aimed at me. lol

 

[Warren Moon]

You really bad with this receipts thing, aren't you? Keep moving the goalposts instead, eh?

You attacked AOC for talking about the Green New Deal without a definitive plan, but when I pushed you to show someone moving differently you held up Ayanna as an example even though she doing the exact same thing in regards to the Green New Deal.

You claim that freshmen legislators who haven't even been sworn in yet should have detailed actionable plans posted publicly for all of their proposed policies, but you still haven't come up with even ONE example where that has directly resulted in meaningful change.

Show me an example of someone doing the things you say AOC needs to do, and it making a difference. I'm still waiting for receipts.





There are 435 members of the House of Representatives. Most of them go years without anything they've written ever getting passed. Most of your favorite congressmen have probably only penned 1-2 successful pieces of legislation in their entire careers, if even that.

We don't need Congressmen who will write the bills, they got staff for that and most of this shyt is written and re-written in committee anyway and bears little relation to whatever some damn freshman might have written down before they were even signed in. What we need is Congressmen who will change the conversation, potentially even shift the Overton Window, and bring meaningful initiatives to the forefront. And so far she's doing that. Which strangely you see as a negative.

I never attacked aoc new green deal plan. Bc she has no plan. She has a talking point, she has created no ideas, literature or policy developments for the new green deal.

I didn’t attack her plan bc it doesn’t exist, aoc tweets about the plan that’s it. You presented the question of the difference between aoc’s plan and Ayanna’s. And all I did was ask u if u were even sure aoc created her “unique and distinct plan”. Btw she didn’t

I only pointed the vast and clear differences between candidates with the more or less the same ideas and who had plans for those ideas and who didn’t. A quick click of your mouse and skim clearly shows this.

Every legitimate candidate for Congress has detailed plans on their websites. I challenge u to find one that’s not aoc who was elected, for the first time; who hasn’t (republican or Democrat). It’s not something new that ppl do this, it’s been the minimum standard for DECADES!

On your second point I took five seconds and googled freshmen congressmen with bills passed and found multiple links
https://www.quorum.us/data-driven-insights/three-freshmen-lawmakers-make-history-with-most-bills-passed-through-house this past class

https://scholar.colorado.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1172&context=honr_theses

Take the five seconds and google, you may learn something.

On your last point wanting someone who brings conversations to the table and not caring about who writes the bills

That laziness and twitter champion mindset is why you’re wrong and how stupid it was for you to even try to stan for her.

You’re more worried about the topic then what’s in the actual legislation.

Your a grown man too you can’t make this up