Alexandria Ocasio Cortez - "Not All Dems Are The Same"

[Perfectson]

You could very well be right, I'm gonna have to do some research.

Lol, of course he right. Surprised you ain't lie your way out of it like you do with me.

"I guess I'll have to do research" means you won't be anzwering back anytime soon

 

[Perfectson]

One of his links in the title compared health care costs to a fukking wall.

And where's your non partisan resesrch?

 

[Json]

New brand of leftist authoritarian

Where do y’all find these cats ? Holy shyt... the Fox News propaganda is strong

You got an administration that is gutting voting rights/ civil rights, fukking with public education, crazy tax cuts for the rich, gutting the healthcare system and when someone comes with ideas to improve the country they have the audacity to ask how are we going to pay for it?!

This is what I was saying earlier. Apparently lowering toxins and pollutants needs a ten year estimate cost study.

Lowering tax rates?

It will pay for itself with revenue!!!!


They are making AOC a popular media figure with their own disregard for facts.

 

[storyteller]

New brand of leftist authoritarian

Where do y’all find these cats ? Holy shyt... the Fox News propaganda is strong

You got an administration that is gutting voting rights/ civil rights, fukking with public education, crazy tax cuts for the rich, gutting the healthcare system and when someone comes with ideas to improve the country they have the audacity to ask how are we going to pay for it?!

This thread is always good for comedy fam. "Leftist authoritarian"

 

[jerniebert]

 

[HellRell804]

This thread is always good for comedy fam. "Leftist authoritarian"

Cant forget "I'm the boss, how bout that?", as she explains her program that would bankrupt America but put a few choice "green" companies in a whole new realm of income.

Oh and my favorite "Until then, we’re in charge - and you’re just shouting from the cheap seats."
-Said by the socialist politician from her luxury condo with her 3500 suit, when 2 months before swearing in she could barely afford a regular apartment.

But yes, you guys keep thinking it's a joke and that power doesn't corrupt. We're only 2 months in to this.

I see why Bernie is throwing this last hail mary. Get this last bag and get out before "Democratic Socialist" is automatically attached to these people and permanently ruined as a concept

 

[Jhoon]

I think the Republicans have won the trolling game. The Laffer Curve and trickle down economics is pretty damn good.

 

[HellRell804]

I think the Republicans have won the trolling game. The Laffer Curve and trickle down economics is pretty damn good.

Lol but arent Democrats telling black people that if we're just patient and stay the course, their policies will "trickle down" to us and the rest of America. That we're wrong to ask for specific things like other groups.

Sounds like both parties are full of shyt.

You guys pride yourselves on being "smarter" than the rest of this site but your lack of awareness is cult like

 

[storyteller]

Cant forget "I'm the boss, how bout that?", as she explains her program that would bankrupt America but put a few choice "green" companies in a whole new realm of income.

Oh and my favorite "Until then, we’re in charge - and you’re just shouting from the cheap seats."
-Said by the socialist politician from her luxury condo with her 3500 suit, when 2 months before swearing in she could barely afford a regular apartment.

But yes, you guys keep thinking it's a joke and that power doesn't corrupt. We're only 2 months in to this.

I see why Bernie is throwing this last hail mary. Get this last bag and get out before "Democratic Socialist" is automatically attached to these people and permanently ruined as a concept

In the bold lies the disconnect. What you think she means by "we" and what I think she means by "we" is definitely completely different. I'll just leave it at that because I can already tell this isn't gonna go anywhere.

 

[HellRell804]

Oh and can't forget from this very thread...

"We need to send them to the guillotine like the french"

And

"The time for asking is over once we take the senate"

Totally not Authoritarian

 

[HellRell804]

In the bold lies the disconnect. What you think she means by "we" and what I think she means by "we" is definitely completely different. I'll just leave it at that because I can already tell this isn't gonna go anywhere.

Imagine the outrage on this board if trump said "To all the people criticizing my tax cuts, at least I'm trying, I'm coming up with proposals to fix unemployment and make America business friendly, so until you try it I'm the boss, keep heckling from your mother's basement".

It would be on the news in a non stop loop rightfully so.

Politicians are public servants. Their job is to interact with other politicians and make deals and temporary alliances that benefit their constituents, not to power into office, take control of government, punish enemies, and make unilateral decisions without criticism or pushback.

To use that language 2 months into a first term shows someone is getting tipsy from the power

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Founder of Greenpeace

Ok you attacked the messenger, but did he lie?

How is this 94 trillion dollar plan feasible?

• The US doesn't feed 8 billion people.
  
• We already have automated cars and trucks.
  
• We have electric cars and trucks.
  
• What about horses?
  
• What study shows this will cost 94 trillion dollars?

So the 90 trillion number has been floated around a lot, I know HL is an echo chamber but i doubt this is your first time hearing about it. But yet you act as if I pulled that number out of my ass.

A lot where? And yes, this is the first time I've heard of it. That's why I asked where you got that number from? So, yes, it does sound like you pulled that number out of your ass.

So i know how this goes.

Clearly you don't.

This is the part where i post an article, you attack the source, call it a conservative rag whether I post Bloomberg, Forbes, or whatever.

I then ask you to disregard the source and tell me why the numbers are wrong.

Then you accuse me of arguing in bad faith, while still never addressing how much this ambitious program is going to truly cost.

Another poster tags in and brings up an old unrelated post to try and discredit me.

Ya'll walk away feeling smug and victorious without ever actually defending your point.

That's how this place works right?

I put up 5 points and you immediately juelz on the last point to keep from responding to the 1st 4 points. It sounds like you're trying to throw up a lot to false indignation to duck really discussing the issue. Your post is bad enough that I had to make sure I wasn't in TLR.

 

[HellRell804]

• The US doesn't feed 8 billion people.
  
• We already have automated cars and trucks.
  
• We have electric cars and trucks.
  
• What about horses?
  
• What study shows this will cost 94 trillion dollars?

1. The us population isn't 8 billion, but we export food around the world.

2 and 3. I already went over this. We have electric cars, but if we have to suddenly shift from our current gas powered vehicles to a country full of electric vehicles, who is going to pay for that. Electric cars are great for the environment and I agree we should gradually shift to using them, but last time I checked Elon Musk wasn't giving away Tesla's and they were kind of expensive.

4. Horses were used in the context of this text to mean, if companies cant afford to buy all new fleets of electric vehicles and gas powered vehicles are banned, horse drawn carriages would be an alternative. Walking dead style.

5. Posted the links to the study already. Was immediately attacked for being right wing. But also it was admitted that no one on the other side has challenged the numbers, not even the creators of the green new deal. So the numbers kind of stand unless you can point out some errors in the math, at that point I'll concede.

Whew, your post had so much omitted information from the last few pages of this thread and willful ignorance I knew I was in HL.

 

[storyteller]

Imagine the outrage on this board if trump said "To all the people criticizing my tax cuts, at least I'm trying, I'm coming up with proposals to fix unemployment and make America business friendly, so until you try it I'm the boss, keep heckling from your mother's basement".

It would be on the news in a non stop loop rightfully so.

Politicians are public servants. Their job is to interact with other politicians and make deals and temporary alliances that benefit their constituents, not to power into office, take control of government, punish enemies, and make unilateral decisions without criticism or pushback.

To use that language 2 months into a first term shows someone is getting tipsy from the power

You see how you just removed "We" from the equation and turned it into a "me" based pronoun. That's exactly what I mean. Who do you think the "WE" is a reference to in her actual statement?

 

[HellRell804]

You see how you just removed "We" from the equation and turned it into a "me" based pronoun. That's exactly what I mean. Who do you think the "WE" is a reference to in her actual statement?

You noticed how you completely ignored "I'm the boss how bout that" because it didn't fit the narrative you were trying to create?