Alexandria Ocasio Cortez - "Not All Dems Are The Same"

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chico25 said:
Which is why she's setting the salaries for her employees in a way that allows everyone to be paid a living wage with no one getting excessive pay and doing so in spite of the fact that she makes the same amount regardless of what others on her staff get paid. If she were a capitalist she would be looking for a way to cut everyone's salary so she could make more than she is now.
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Okay of you want to slant it like that, then her socialist ideaology has created a larger wealth gap . Because she just basically wiped out her mjddle class to support the poor while maintaining her super rich salary.

The highest paid person is now 70k....shes making 175k, so let's call it 150% wealth gap. Where as before her highest paid was 150k, which meant wealth gap was ,20%


However you spin it's the same answers, she has created a larger wealth gap and she is happily receiving her full 175k with her Cadillac plan of benefits while the people under her happily suffer pay wise for her ideaology.

Whether you call that capitslism .socialism, serfdom, or a republican ideaology the root and branches are the same.

You're telling me if you went to work today and they cut your salary so everyone made the same amount regardless of experience, time in the job, education etc etc except for the CEO and the c-Suite employees who kept theirs salary you would be okay with that?
 
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Okay of you want to slant it like that, then her socialist ideaology has created a larger wealth gap . Because she just basically wiped out her mjddle class to support the poor while maintaining her super rich salary.

The highest paid person is now 70k....shes making 175k, so let's call it 150% wealth gap. Where as before her highest paid was 150k, which meant wealth gap was ,20%


However you spin it's the same answers, she has created a larger wealth gap and she is happily receiving her full 175k with her Cadillac plan of benefits while the people under her happily suffer pay wise for her ideaology.

Whether you call that capitslism .socialism, serfdom, or a republican ideaology the root and branches are the same.

You're telling me if you went to work today and they cut your salary so everyone made the same amount regardless of experience, time in the job, education etc etc except for the CEO and the c-Suite employees who kept theirs salary you would be okay with that?
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You're assuming a lot of things. You assume in your scenario that I'd be one of the people taking a cut instead of being one of the people getting an increase. You can't look at the prospective of people who wouldn't have enough to survive now being in a position to live comfortably.

You're assuming that AOC made the choice alone instead of consulting with the senior staff whose job is to advise her and are the ones whose salaries are being cut. You can't imagine the idea of people looking out for each other to make sure everyone can eat because you prefer capitalism where some people starve so others can have more than they need. If my bosses came to me with a plan to adjust salaries in a way that allowed more people to make a living wage and discussed cutting my salary to do it, I would discuss it and make sure I'd be okay with the new salary, if I wasn't I would negotiate or quit.


You assume she has control over her salary as though she can just say cut my salary and put that money towards paying my staff. Her salary was determined by a literal act of Congress. She can't determine how much she gets and can't determine what to do with that money until she gets paid. What you would be suggesting by saying she should take the raise out of her own salary is that when she gets paid every two weeks, or however often Congress gets paid, she should take part of that check and distribute it to her staff based on what she wants their salaries to be. That's the most inefficient way of paying someone I've ever heard of. Why not just take the money allocated for staff salaries and use it to make sure everyone is happy with their salary. Which is the main thing, nobody is bytching about the pay adjustment except for you. If her staff was unhappy I'm sure we'd hear about people quitting or complaining to the press.
 
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You're assuming a lot of things. You assume in your scenario that I'd be one of the people taking a cut instead of being one of the people getting an increase. You can't look at the prospective of people who wouldn't have enough to survive now being in a position to live comfortably.

You're assuming that AOC made the choice alone instead of consulting with the senior staff whose job is to advise her and are the ones whose salaries are being cut. You can't imagine the idea of people looking out for each other to make sure everyone can eat because you prefer capitalism where some people starve so others can have more than they need. If my bosses came to me with a plan to adjust salaries in a way that allowed more people to make a living wage and discussed cutting my salary to do it, I would discuss it and make sure I'd be okay with the new salary, if I wasn't I would negotiate or quit.


You assume she has control over her salary as though she can just say cut my salary and put that money towards paying my staff. Her salary was determined by a literal act of Congress. She can't determine how much she gets and can't determine what to do with that money until she gets paid. What you would be suggesting by saying she should take the raise out of her own salary is that when she gets paid every two weeks, or however often Congress gets paid, she should take part of that check and distribute it to her staff based on what she wants their salaries to be. That's the most inefficient way of paying someone I've ever heard of. Why not just take the money allocated for staff salaries and use it to make sure everyone is happy with their salary. Which is the main thing, nobody is bytching about the pay adjustment except for you. If her staff was unhappy I'm sure we'd hear about people quitting or complaining to the press.
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First I'm not assuming , I'm speaking generally, I never stayed anyone is upset in her staff. I've spoken generally on what she is doing

Second I want to stick to my point, which is why she is creating a 150% income gap in her on office. I can tell you that there is no rich socialist , greed knows no allegiance. If she came out the same time she slashed her employees salaries with an initiative to cut her own salary I would not be saying anything

Cutting her salary would be by direct depositing an allocation of her salary directly into her employees bank account or cutting a check directly to their treasury so her paycheck could potentially be utilized in next year's budget. She should be making closer to 105k based on her cuts and increase the livable wages of her employees.

Lastly, even before this maneuver her employees were making a livable wage from all accounts. I believe livable wage is like 38k in D.C. for a person


Please answer the question regarding why AOC didn't put herself in the same category of her employees when it came time to give back

It isn't about her enamored staff or her chief of staff who worked for free before .it's about her sticking to the same idealogy she placed on others. How is this any different than authoritative socialists like Maduro? People support him too btw, while he lives in splendor his people starve (being extreme here for point making)


Please no long diatribe or suggesting it's inefficient. I have my paycheck going to multiple accounts , it's actually quite easy to setup direct deposits
 
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Perfectson said:
First I'm not assuming , I'm speaking generally, I never stayed anyone is upset in her staff. I've spoken generally on what she is doing

Second I want to stick to my point, which is why she is creating a 150% income gap in her on office. I can tell you that there is no rich socialist , greed knows no allegiance. If she came out the same time she slashed her employees salaries with an initiative to cut her own salary I would not be saying anything

Cutting her salary would be by direct depositing an allocation of her salary directly into her employees bank account or cutting a check directly to their treasury so her paycheck could potentially be utilized in next year's budget. She should be making closer to 105k based on her cuts and increase the livable wages of her employees.

Lastly, even before this maneuver her employees were making a livable wage from all accounts. I believe livable wage is like 38k in D.C. for a person


Please answer the question regarding why AOC didn't put herself in the same category of her employees when it came time to give back

It isn't about her enamored staff or her chief of staff who worked for free before .it's about her sticking to the same idealogy she placed on others. How is this any different than authoritative socialists like Maduro? People support him too btw, while he lives in splendor his people starve (being extreme here for point making)


Please no long diatribe or suggesting it's inefficient. I have my paycheck going to multiple accounts , it's actually quite easy to setup direct deposits
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to put quite simply, she's making around 2.5 times what her staff makes, while decrying CEOs making 2-300 times what their staff make. i hardly see the hypocrisy
 
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Perfectson said:
First I'm not assuming , I'm speaking generally, I never stayed anyone is upset in her staff. I've spoken generally on what she is doing

Second I want to stick to my point, which is why she is creating a 150% income gap in her on office. I can tell you that there is no rich socialist , greed knows no allegiance. If she came out the same time she slashed her employees salaries with an initiative to cut her own salary I would not be saying anything

Cutting her salary would be by direct depositing an allocation of her salary directly into her employees bank account or cutting a check directly to their treasury so her paycheck could potentially be utilized in next year's budget. She should be making closer to 105k based on her cuts and increase the livable wages of her employees.

Lastly, even before this maneuver her employees were making a livable wage from all accounts. I believe livable wage is like 38k in D.C. for a person


Please answer the question regarding why AOC didn't put herself in the same category of her employees when it came time to give back

It isn't about her enamored staff or her chief of staff who worked for free before .it's about her sticking to the same idealogy she placed on others. How is this any different than authoritative socialists like Maduro? People support him too btw, while he lives in splendor his people starve (being extreme here for point making)


Please no long diatribe or suggesting it's inefficient. I have my paycheck going to multiple accounts , it's actually quite easy to setup direct deposits
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the cac mamba said:
to put quite simply, she's making around 2.5 times what her staff makes, while decrying CEOs making 2-300 times what their staff make. i hardly see the hypocrisy
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What he said.
 
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the cac mamba said:
to put quite simply, she's making around 2.5 times what her staff makes, while decrying CEOs making 2-300 times what their staff make. i hardly see the hypocrisy
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There was no income gap until she pulled this maneuver now it's 2.5 and she's not contributing to her own socialist experiment. You can't compare a capitalistic model to a socialist one . It's one thing I decry capitalism. It's another to pretend you're a socialist champion but don't actually partake.
 
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