AI is the most overrated player/scorer in NBA history

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Aren't you like 18-19? Shut the fukk up kid, you're just wrong.

You do know A.I won an MVP and like 4-5 scoring titles right? Dude averaged 33 ppg one season and in his prime, he was most DEFINITELY a top 5 player in the NBA. Dude at one point was arguably the best player in the league, let alone being a top 5 SG :rudy:

Wade? Dude wasn't even in the league when A.I was at his best and even when he was a rookie and a sophomore, A.I was averaging 30+ ppg

Ray Allen and VC were never better than Iverson, period.

T-Mac, yeah maybe, Kobe during that era, it was arguable but during 1999-2005 it's not like those guys were leaps and bounds better than A.I. I would even argue that during a season or two during that era, Iverson was better than them.

I know for a fact you never watched Iverson play in his prime if you're labeling him a "bum" dude is far from and is pound for pound one of the best scorers in NBA history. He averages more ppg than everyone on that list you listed. Fukking fakkit :pacspit:

The fact that points per game is the crutch of your argument to defend A.I actually proves the point of the post. The post said A.I's best attribute was scoring and he wasn't even that great at it, and another comment said his style surpasses his substance.

That's the case. You point to high point totals, but a closer look reveals that he is an inefficient chucker.

I wouldn't say he's a bum, but he's overrated if you think he's on Kobe, Wade or T-Mac's level. He's around the level of Vince and Ray, but I would give them the edge because of efficiency.

Allen Iverson shot around 41 percent in what is considered his prime. His career True Shooting % is 51.8. He played on some poor offensive teams, but he was a part of why they were poor as well.
 

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That one is not even arguable. Tracy was easily better than AI.

fukk outta here.

lol right

nikkas say AI peaked in 2001.

But that same season was Tmacs first season in Orlando(only 4th year in the league) and he fucced around and averaged 27ppg, 4.6apg(same as iverson), 7.5 rebounds, 1.5 steals, 1.5 blocks, 46% from the field and 35% from the 3 :noah:
 

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I like how over the years AI's supporting cast went from being viewed as trash to underrated :beli: He was on barely average squads with no other scoring options that played at a snails pace.
 

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I like how over the years AI's supporting cast went from being viewed as trash to underrated :beli: He was on barely average squads with no other scoring options that played at a snails pace.

Tmacs squad in Orlando was jus as trash.

Even Kobes squad was worse as well.

You forget, AI had 6thman of the year and defensive player of the year while Kobe had Kwame Brown, Luke Walton and Smush Parker as starters :gag:

Put prime kobe on that 2001 sixers team, and put prime AI on the lakers.
Sixers still make the finals while Lakers lose to the Kings:gag:
 

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I like how over the years AI's supporting cast went from being viewed as trash to underrated :beli: He was on barely average squads with no other scoring options that played at a snails pace.

What's not taken into account here is we have seen Kobe, Wade and T-Mac in similar situations and have much better individual seasons. That's because they are substantially better players.

I get that A.I played on poor offensive teams, but that doesn't absolve him from chucking. He also didn't elevate anyone around him offensively.
 

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I hate to say it since he is my 2nd favorite player alltime, but enough is enough.
Just last night I was arguing with some clowns thinking prime AI was better than prime Kobe:wtf:

I started thinking, in the GOAT SG era, AI realistically was BARELY a top 5 SG(if he was at all) yet people still have him as one of the best.

These are a list of SG that played during AIs era, that were better than him at their peak/prime

Kobe
TMAC
Wade
Ray Allen
VC

Then if you wanna just talk about scorers, Lebron and Durant are better than him as well.

In the thing AI did the "best", he wasnt even top 5 in that regard when he was playing, ever.

Hes a bum

didn't AI take out Vince and Ray Allen when both was in their prime and was the leader of their own team?

Iverson played with no other threat on his team to take away any focus off of him. PPL forget that his jumpshot was wet and the shots that he missed was floaters over 7 footers which allowed easier offensive rebounds. You throw out stats like they tell the story. Their is no stat for leader or will power. And I seen AI will his team to victory plenty of times. Vince and T-mac are both mental midgets. Hell the Rockets didnt make it out of the first round until T-Mac was hurt.
 

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OP is a fakkit and kobe lover plus he's only 18, nikka probably never saw A.I. school Kobe

A.I. was a leader, kobe is just a role player.

:what:

foh fakkit the ONLY thing in the game of basketball AI does better than Kobe is dribble.

Stop it.

Didnt Kobe sweep AI in 08 :umad:

Them nikkas both came in the league the same year, kobe still a league scoring leader while AI shooting 35% in yugoslavia :gag:
 

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In a way, the Sixers in 01' built the best possible team you can have with AI as your number one option.

Great defensive role players around iverson who would be ok with literally going 3,4,5,6 possessions without ever seeing the ball:heh:. Let AI take all the shots he wants, play GREAT defense every night and hope to win games like 90-85. Now to he fair, they coulda got more shooters around him to space the floor but still for that one year in that crap conference with their excellent D it got them to the finals. But once their defense fell apart over the years they were never the same, of course the conference geting slightly better didnt help
 

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foh fakkit the ONLY thing in the game of basketball AI does better than Kobe is dribble.

Stop it.

Didnt Kobe sweep AI in 08 :umad:

Them nikkas both came in the league the same year, kobe still a league scoring leader while AI shooting 35% in yugoslavia :gag:

If A.I. had at least another nikka... you wouldn't be :troll: right now.

I mean.... them 3 titles in the 2000s were because of :shaq: and a lil bit of help from David Stern (2002 WFC) and Robert Horry.

2009, a weak Magic team.
2010, Kobe caught a break and was lucky to catch the Celtics sleeping. Mind you that the series went to 7.

Kobe aka 100 shots attempts per game :umad:
 

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If A.I. had at least another nikka... you wouldn't be :troll: right now.

I mean.... them 3 titles in the 2000s were because of :shaq: and a lil bit of help from David Stern (2002 WFC) and Robert Horry.

2009, a weak Magic team.
2010, Kobe caught a break and was lucky to catch the Celtics sleeping. Mind you that the series went to 7.

Kobe aka 100 shots attempts per game :umad:

He had Carmelo anthony and got swept:whew:
 

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nikkas is delusional. Iverson is one of the best to ever do it. He was liver than all them nikkas mentioned.
 

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didn't AI take out Vince and Ray Allen when both was in their prime and was the leader of their own team?

Iverson played with no other threat on his team to take away any focus off of him. PPL forget that his jumpshot was wet and the shots that he missed was floaters over 7 footers which allowed easier offensive rebounds. You throw out stats like they tell the story. Their is no stat for leader or will power. And I seen AI will his team to victory plenty of times. Vince and T-mac are both mental midgets. Hell the Rockets didnt make it out of the first round until T-Mac was hurt.

Iverson teams lost half of the games he played in during his career. For all his will, that is not very good.

Let's keep it as objective as possible and judge him by his production and not speculate on intangibles.
 
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