African Involvement in the slave trade

[Robbie3000]

The same bible prophesied the transatlantic slave trade and the destructions of the so-called white man who is referred to as Esau/Edom/Edomites for what they did to those same people. Again, you are a Hamite, that is not for you. That is the reason why the cac elites selected Obama, they knew he is a Hamite and didn't care about the black people (so-called Negroes) here, who are not Hamites. You do not come from the chosen line of Jacob, that is why the prophecies do not fit your people. Obama the Hamite has been the worst thing to happen to black people in this country in a long time. He is nothing but a demon, just like you are.

Allllrighty then.

 

[Amulet of Immortality]

Whites have more time being slaves on this planet than blacks and Asians combined. Heard it here first, but you won't here it in your history book (propaganda magazine).

 

[Czar]

You are a Hamite, so this doesn't pertain to you.

You're a Hamite too stupid. Or are you oblivious to the fact that the psuedo-belief system you parrot (which originated in 1 West) claims only the true Hebrews were taken as slaves.

Your family is 100% Nigerian with no hebraic connection to speak of and came to this country of their own free will. Which not only makes you a Hamite, but "guarantees" you are going into slavery according to the same false theology you've bought into.

Which makes you that much more dumb for adhering to it.

But then again.

Zondervan’s Compact Bible Dictionary:

Ham – The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; not the Negroes, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.

You believe Hamites are actually dark skin Caucasians

Which Is why I had to ether you before.

What he fails to realize is Zondervan's bible dictionary entry on Ham uses the Hamitic Hypothesis, which is a Eurocentric theory.

For those who are unfamiliar with the Hamitic Hypothesis...

Hamitic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the mid-19th century, the term Hamitic acquired a new meaning as a few European writers claimed to identify a distinct "Hamitic race" that was superior to "Negroid" populations of Sub-Saharan Africa. The theory arose from early anthropological writers, who linked the stories in the Bible of Ham's sons to actual ancient migrations of a supposed Middle-Eastern sub-group of the Caucasian race.

And here's more proof Zondervan uses it.

books.google.com/books?isbn=0310442117

Zondervan's NIV Study Bible (Red Letter Edition)

Noah’s curse cannot be used to justify the enslavement of blacks, since most of Ham’s descendants are known to be Caucasian, as the Canaanites certainly were (as shown by ancient paintings of the Canaanites discovered in Egypt).

What's funny is, here's Zondervan's entry on Shem

SHEM (shĕm, Heb. shēm, Gr. Sēm, name, fame). This second son of Noah and progenitor of the Semitic race was born ninety-eight years before the Flood (Gen.11.10). He lived six hundred years, outliving his descendants for nine generations (except for Eber and Abraham). In the racial prophecy that Noah made after the episode of his drunkenness (Gen.9.25-Gen.9.27), he mentioned “the Lord, the God of Shem.” The three great monotheistic religions—Judaism, Christianity, and Islam—all had Semitic origins. Noah added that Japheth’s descendants would “live in the tents of Shem,” indicating that the Aryan peoples to a large extent have derived their civilization from the Semites. In the “Table of the nations” (Gen.10.1-Gen.10.32)

Notice it doesn't say SHEM: progenitor of the Negroes?

Let's look at the definition of the word Negro


Negro - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Definition of NEGRO
sometimes offensive
: a member of a race of humankind native to Africa and classified according to physical features (as dark skin pigmentation)
— Negro adjective, sometimes offensive
— ne·groid adjective or noun often capitalized sometimes offensive
— Ne·gro·ness noun, sometimes offensive
See Negro defined for English-language learners »
See Negro defined for kids »
Origin of NEGRO
Spanish or Portuguese, from negro black, from Latin nigr-, niger

But dude is too willfully ignorant to understand any of this.

@Robbie3000 refer to this comment.

Didn't that Marvel dude used to be a basic run-of-the-mill Tariq Nasheed/Umar Johnson-dikkriding group economics/cacs/c00ns/feminism/gay agenda blah blah blah coli "militant"?

Then all of a sudden he started posting all this crazy ass Hebrew Israelite gibberish overnight like

Is he losing his mind or something?

 

[Czar]

The same bible prophesied the transatlantic slave trade and the destructions of the so-called white man who is referred to as Esau/Edom/Edomites for what they did to those same people. Again, you are a Hamite, that is not for you. That is the reason why the cac elites selected Obama, they knew he is a Hamite and didn't care about the black people (so-called Negroes) here, who are not Hamites. You do not come from the chosen line of Jacob, that is why the prophecies do not fit your people. Obama the Hamite has been the worst thing to happen to black people in this country in a long time. He is nothing but a demon, just like you are.

Hmm, I wonder what the bible has to say about those Hamites intermixing with Hebrews. (Just a couple off top)


Genesis 16:3

And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife.

Genesis 38:1-6

And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah.

And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her.

And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name Er.

And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan.

And she yet again conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him.

And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar.

Genesis 41:45

And Pharaoh called Joseph's name Zaphnathpaaneah; and he gave him to wife Asenath the daughter of Potipherah priest of On. And Joseph went out over all the land of Egypt.

Numbers 12:1

And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

1 Kings 3:1

And Solomon made affinity with Pharaoh king of Egypt, and took Pharaoh's daughter, and brought her into the city of David, until he had made an end of building his own house, and the house of the LORD, and the wall of Jerusalem round about.

1 Chronicles 2:34-35

Now Sheshan had no sons, but daughters. And Sheshan had a servant, an Egyptian, whose name was Jarha.

And Sheshan gave his daughter to Jarha his servant to wife; and she bare him Attai.

1 Chronicles 4:18

And his wife Jehudijah bare Jered the father of Gedor, and Heber the father of Socho, and Jekuthiel the father of Zanoah. And these are the sons of Bithiah the daughter of Pharaoh, which Mered took.

And just for fun.


Isaiah 19:25

Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.

Don't make me embarrass you some more @Marvel

 

[Czar]

Egypt is spiritual term that means the house of bondage.

Wrong.

Egypt in Exodus 13:3 is a proper name (Mizraim) and does NOT mean house of bondage. The words mibbeit avadim in the same text actually mean house of bondage. Which makes sense, since the Israelites were clearly in a literal bondage during their stay in Egypt.

Furthermore, Mizraim in Deuteronomy 28:68 is also literal, and was fulfilled during the Siege of Jerusalem (70 AD) and Bar Kokhba Revolt.

And we have two historical accounts as proof.


Josephus (Who was a 1st century Hebrew historian)

Chapter 9 - The Works of Flavius Josephus

So this Fronto slew all those that had been seditious and robbers, who were impeached one by another; but of the young men he chose out the tallest and most beautiful, and reserved them for the triumph; and as for the rest of the multitude that were above seventeen years old, he put them into bonds, and sent them to the Egyptian mines. Titus also sent a great number into the provinces, as a present to them, that they might be destroyed upon their theatres, by the sword and by the wild beasts; but those that were under seventeen years of age were sold for slaves.

And Jerome, Roman historian and translator of the Vulgate.

Testimony of the Ages: Or, Confirmations of the Scriptures, from Modern ... - Herbert William Morris, Enoch Fitch Burr - Google Books

After the last overthrow of the Jews by Adrian, many thousands of them were sold, says St. Jerome, and those who could not be sold were transported to Egypt, and perished by shipwreck or famine, or were massacred by the inhabitants.- Hieron. in Zech. ii. fol. 120. I.

Moreover, America as a nation didn't even exist when the slave trade was started. And wouldn't exist until 200 years into it.

So you finna say Brazil was Egypt? Since 40% of the slaves went there? Not to mention they were last western nation to "abolish" slavery. How about the rest of South America? Or Central America? Or the West Indies?

Seems like someone didn't even bother to read this part in Deuteronomy.

Deuteronomy 28:63

And it shall come to pass, that as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it.

Aka Canaan, not West Africa.

Its no coincidence that this nation's capital has an obelisk and that a pyramid is on the back of the 1 dollar bill.

Washington monument is an obelisk, originating from Ancient Egypt. It is not a coincidence, its prophecy.

You do realize Assyria ALSO had obelisks?

Guess who else had them?

And guess what their national symbol was.

Coincidentally, they also had a pyramid which was built in 12 BC. To go along with the fact that they ruled Egypt for 600 years.

Hmm, I wonder if there are obelisks in Germany?

And I wonder what the Nazi's national symbol was?

@Marvel

 

[Czar]

First you must understand that the word Africa comes from Leo Scipio Africanus who was a Roman general that defeated Hannibal. Before that the entire land of what is know Africa was called Kemet or Chem-eret (in hebrew) which means Land of Ham. Now within the Land of Ham outsiders that were not descendants of Ham lived. Those people migrated from elsewhere and were isolated groups who were not liked on the continent. Those same people were Israelites that fled Roman perception after the Siege of Jerusalem in 70AD which expelled every single real Jew out of the land of Israel.

http://israelunite.org/videos/israelites-east-coast-to-west-coast/
Start at 56:00 for some insight. These guys use maps, other books, documentaries and historical documents to back up their stuff.

The tribes in Africa that were targeted for the slave trade were targeted deliberately. It wasn't some total chaos or every man for himself, it was planned out and conspired between certain African tribes/kingdoms and the white man to capture certain tribes for the slave trade. Anybody that tells you differently is a liar.

Here go @Marvel again with the SAME Scipio Africanus polemic. And it's Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus, not Leo Scripio Africanus Leo Africanus lived in the 16th century AD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_africanus


Moreover, Scipio adopted the agnomen Africanus AFTER Africa, not the other way around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scipio_Africanus

Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus (236–183 BC), also known as Scipio the African, Scipio Africanus-Major, Scipio Africanus the Elder, and Scipio the Great[1] was a general in the Second Punic War and statesman of the Roman Republic. He was best known for defeating Hannibal at the final battle of the Second Punic War at Zama, a feat that earned him the agnomen Africanus

Scipio was welcomed back to Rome in triumph with the agnomen of Africanus. He refused the many further honours which the people would have thrust upon him such as Consul for life and Dictator. In the year 199 BC, Scipio was elected Censor and for some years afterwards he lived quietly and took no part in politics.

How is someone who claims to have two master degrees and a supposed "vast knowledge of ancient history" getting BASIC Roman history wrong?


And EVERY Israelite was expelled from Judea/Israel in 70 AD???

Last time I checked, the siege of Jerusalem only happened IN JERUSALEM.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70)


Jews weren't completely enslaved and expelled from Judea/Israel until 135 AD. Or are you even familiar with the Bar Kokhba revolt? (We all know the answer is no)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt

The Bar Kokhba revolt (Hebrew: מרד בר כוכבא‎ or mered Bar Kokhba), was a rebellion of the Jews of Judea Province, led by Simon bar Kokhba, against the Roman Empire. Fought circa 132–136 CE,[3] it was the last of three major Jewish–Roman wars, so it is also known as The Third Jewish–Roman War or The Third Jewish Revolt.[4]

Your level of ignorance/trolling never ceases to amaze me. You jump in threads with copy and paste gibberish from websites like Israelunited and don't even bother doing a quick fact check.

Speaking of that website.

IUIC=House of David rejects. The same HOD which split from the Original UPK and claimed Mashah was King David, hence the name.

IUIC essentially preach the same false doctrines as all the other half baked camps (minus the fake Hebrew known as Lashawan Qadash). And Nathanyel has them set up as a 501c3. Go figure.

 

[Robbie3000]

You're a Hamite too stupid. Or are you oblivious to the fact that the psuedo-belief system you parrot (which originated in 1 West) claims only the true Hebrews were taken as slaves.

Your family is 100% Nigerian with no hebraic connection to speak of and came to this country of their own free will. Which not only makes you a Hamite, but "guarantees" you are going into slavery according to the same false theology you've bought into.

Which makes you that much more dumb for adhering to it.

But then again.




You believe Hamites are actually dark skin Caucasians

Which Is why I had to ether you before.




@Robbie3000 refer to this comment.

: merchant:

wait a minute, this dude isNigerian believing in that HI nonsense about Ham and Africans?

: laff:

That is self ether at the highest level.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

It's a damn shame what happened to @Marvel

 

[Robbie3000]

It's a damn shame what happened to @Marvel

I'm still tripping that he's Nigerian. I'm curious as to how the recruitment process went. @Marvel, how did you prove to your brethren that you were not a Hamite B? Did you have to produce some type of paperwork? Maybe some genetic analysis from 23andme?

 

[emoney]

@Czar

Marvel is right about West Africans being "Negro" and not "Hamitic".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamitic

Hamitic is a historical term for the peoples supposedly descended from Noah's son Ham, aralleling Semitic and Japhetic. It was used to label non-Semitic languages in the Afroasiatic language family, which was thus formerly labelled "Hamito-Semitic". The Hamitic languages were said to include the Berber,Cushytic and Egyptian branches.

According to the Hamitic theory this "Hamitic race" was superior to or more advanced than Negroid populations of Sub-Saharan Africa.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Hamite

n.
A member of a group of peoples of northern and northeast Africa, including the Berbers, Tuaregs, and the ancient Egyptians and theirdescendants.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Just want to point out that the institute of slavery in Africa was different from that practiced in America. Slaves in Africa were foreign prisoners of war or from enemy nations but in status were no different from servants and still had certain rights. They could even buy their freedom. It was only in America where slaves were treated harshly. The same was true for another black African society called Kemet (Egypt) where slaves were never a significant population and largely consisted of prisoners of war. The height of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade was due to the result of feudal wars between African states peddled by European colonialists in which they exchanged slaves for guns. Using such a tactic, the Euro-colonialist were able to divide and conquer. The British used a similar system in China except instead they traded opium for guns and gun powder.

I'll post more later; when I find a computer.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

make it sound as nice as you want I still look at as an horrible pratice done by any cultrue. Just because they did it nicer then whites and Arabs does not abslove them of the fact that they owned a person which strips the slave of dignity and freedom.

Every group prior to the 19th ccentury was enslaved/conquer. Its human nature but also how ideas/civilizations grow in a way. Everyone poster on this forum(black or white) had ancestors that were enslaved/conquered. If this wasn't the case then we would basically be like the Australian aboriginals; still in the stone age

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I'm not making it sound nice, I'm just tellin you how it was. African slavery didn't have the dehumanizing trait of other forms of slavery. Those "slaves" were more like domestic servants rather than chattel property gettin whipped and beaten. African "slavery" is incomparable breh, I'm not sayin its the right thing but it also isn't equal to euro cac/sand cac slavery.

It seems people have this fixed idea of what a slave is. Some correlate it with treating a slave like liveatoc, like what was did in the Americas. Slavery existed since the time of man. All groups enslaved another group.

 

[Gains]

the whole blacks sold other blacks argument

always used to down play the transatlantic slave trade

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Also why hell are people on this thread discussing the racist hamitic theory? When it was created and used by racist white scientist and colonizers to separate certain blacks(Horners,Tutsi,Fulani, Nubian,Beja,etc) and to add them to the greater "caucasoid race", due to them not being "true negroids". You people are only repeating what those racist whites of the 19th century did!