Digga38
The seperation between what's fake and what's real
Both parties are responsible.....the west isnt absolved and neither are those countries in africa....
they both owe us you morons
African Involvement in the slave trade
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they both owe us you morons
The Nigerian
The Realest Member of TheColi
When my people, the Igbo, were caught and brought over to America on ships they jumped overboard before they could be reprogrammed as slaves. That's why you don't hear too much Igbo slang in BVE.
Dignity before EVERYTHING!
Don't generalize; yes, some Igbo did jump overboard, but many still survived the Middle Passage. Check Michael Gomez's Exchanging Our Country Marks; its a great book on African ethnicities from Africa through the Middle passage to America
Digga38
The seperation between what's fake and what's real
that doesnt absolve them of financial responsibility....
asking for reparations from ALL involved parties seems pretty fair to me
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I trained Sheng Long and Shonuff
Here go @Marvel again with the SAME Scipio Africanus polemic. And it's Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus, not Leo Scripio AfricanusLeo Africanus lived in the 16th century AD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_africanus
Moreover, Scipio adopted the agnomen Africanus AFTER Africa, not the other way around.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scipio_Africanus
How is someone who claims to have two master degrees and a supposed "vast knowledge of ancient history" getting BASIC Roman history wrong?
And EVERY Israelite was expelled from Judea/Israel in 70 AD???
Last time I checked, the siege of Jerusalem only happened IN JERUSALEM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70)
Jews weren't completely enslaved and expelled from Judea/Israel until 135 AD. Or are you even familiar with the Bar Kokhba revolt? (We all know the answer is no)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt
Your level of ignorance/trolling never ceases to amaze me. You jump in threads with copy and paste gibberish from websites like Israelunited and don't even bother doing a quick fact check.
Speaking of that website.
IUIC=House of David rejects. The same HOD which split from the Original UPK and claimed Mashah was King David, hence the name.
IUIC essentially preach the same false doctrines as all the other half baked camps (minus the fake Hebrew known as Lashawan Qadash). And Nathanyel has them set up as a 501c3. Go figure.
No Tyson uppercut breh
Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
You do realize that Igbos still made it here in masses, right?. There is whole book written by an American history scholar just Igbos being the predominant group in the slave trade. What your dad did not teach you is that it was the Beni people got guns from Esau and raided the Igbo cities and towns for slaves. That is information that purposely not taught to his generation to accept the Nigerian nationality. A lot of other groups did the same thing as far as rebellions on slave ships and suicides. Nobody wants to have chains around their neck and be treated inhumanely...that is why they had to beat most slaves before they would accept their condition, especially the ones that we not born into slavery.
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Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
The thing is you need to identify the culprits. People think that all tribes in West and Central Africa were involved in the slave trade. That is a big lie because most so-called black Americans do not understand that there are major differences between groups and they had separate kingdoms. They are not all the same people. You had certain groups that partnered with Esau to trade other groups into slavery. It was not some free for all on who will trade their enemies to Esau faster. Esau did business with specific tribes to target specific tribes for slavery. Esau documented them and called them forest states and he strengthen them with guns to give them an advantage over their enemies.
The forest states noted were the ones trading slaves in that regions and if you look up the info on them, they were controlled by specific tribes. One of the biggest lies is that people traded their own people by the millions, anybody that believes that will believe anything. No empire can grow trading their own people by the millions, that would be a prototype definition of hustling backwards. Esau is not teaching you this and now, he is really confusing y'all because since the 1970s he has been making you think that you are descendants from the same forest states that traded slaves.
I have read material and books dating back to the 1600s til now and have seen them change the narratives by the 1970s on who was targeted. Did you know that the people traded traded and groups targeted for slavery were never called Africans but Negroes. Ask yourself why? Is it possible that they were two completely seperate groups. Now, Esau has put the African term on those who were considered Negroes, both in the Americas and Africa. This was purposely done to cover the separate identities, so that you never know that the negroes are Shemites and not Hamites. Esau has documented this in his archaeology of ancient Israelite graves and admitted that the bone structure, head shapes, shovel teeth are found in certain tribes in Africa and among the natives of the Americas.
Now,I will say that today do to slavery in those same forest states, you have people whose have the same identity of their oppressor but they are not of the same descendants. Just like black people here call themselves Americans, when "Americans" oppressed them. You can imagine, having the name of your oppressor, adopting their culture and language and not even knowing it because you grew up in that region. That might be too deep for some of you to understand right now.
Also, whole families did not go into slavery...people lost their loved ones to slavery and they happened to escape the raids and now those people are still their in their homelands today...so are you are going to be against them...this is deeper than rap. That is why we as Israelites through the spirit of Yahawah bahasham Yahawashi are able to break the mysteries of this down to get our people to understand why these things happened to us...it was already written.
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RealAryansRtheIndians
Banned
Wrong.
"Negro" is only the spanish word for black. There is no separate "race" in Africa called "Hamitic Africans." Please stop with the nonsense.
Fulanis were considered "Hamitic".
They have what you call "Hamitic" features. Yet they are not only from West African and speak a Niger Congo language, but the Nigerian Fulanis males I posted carry West African E1b1a around 100% in frequencies. Fulanis, Ethiopians and Somalis "Caucasoid" features has nothing to do with them being a separate group of Africans but them evolving them due to their environment/climate/diet. One most also remember that West Africans aren't even one homogeneous group to begin with. So you have to elaborate on with "negros" in West Africa; because there some West Africans like the Fulani(in the Sahel) who have those same "traits" horners have.
The Atlantic Slave trade had nothing to do with what specific African was inferior or superior. The Europeans before hand regarded the Benin civilization as magnificent for their benin art(which they said rivaled Ancient Greece) yet they were still taken as slaves.
Interisting photos.
The last picture of the couple, they look very Arabic.
The 2nd picture, the guy with black suit looks like a Scandinavian white guy with dark skin. The guy in white looks Somali.
RealAryansRtheIndians
Banned
no but I am pretty sure whites were responsible for their divide and rule tactic. that's how they managed to exterminate and steal lands from so many people. just like in India and Aztec/Mayan civilization, they divided and set up Africans against one another. the only losers were the Africans, no matter which side ''won'' as you can see from the results of today.
they only failed in India because the Indians realized this and united against them, otherwise India today would've been another whiteman country.
Roland Coltrane
Superstar
Not to burst your bubble @emoney but @Marvel is in fact dead wrong.
The Hamitic Hypothesis/Theory is 100% Pseudoscience and Eurocentrism at it's finest. And this is coming from someone who isn't trying to play the role of "coli militant".
From the same article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamitic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
So according to all that, @2Quik4UHoes would be considered Caucasian.
Skip to 18:08 so you can see an Egyptian girl who identifies as black, yet is being forced to list herself as white under the current census in this country.
http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-05.pdf
Btw, I was about to post a link to an article that really exposes the Hamitic Hypothesis. Unfortunately, it's no longer available. It appears in the Journal of African History (which is published by Cambridge University). Vol 4 (I969), Pages 521-531. I saved it on a flash drive somewhere. Soon as I find it, I'ma upload it for you.
Even reputable scholars see how that theory was nothing more than a ploy by Europeans to claim the accomplishments of other groups. This is why research is important.
@Marvel only makes appeals to it because he's bought into a pseudo-belief that claims all Africans are going to be destroyed or enslaved by God. Which is ironic to say the least, since he's African
started from the beginning and there's a lot of cringeworthy stuff in that video
dark skin sista held it down tho
a lot of it just seems to be light skin and mixed people crying
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
staticshock
Veteran
There is no way you are black.
Please tell me how Obama was worse for blacks more than constant discrimination when applying for jobs, loans or houses.
Please tell me how Obama was worse than police officers killing black men and not getting punished for it.
Please tell me how Obama was worse than Jewish media heads putting out entertainment and music that constantly paints black Americans in a bad picture.
Please tell me how Obama was worse than the drug laws and legal system that has put away so many black men.
I’m waiting to hear how Obama is the devil and we are all in a worse place after him. Please tell us smart-dumb nikka
Good post.Ghanians went through the same thing. For them it was more than likely Dahomey. For the Igbos, It could have been the Benin Kingdom to the west of them and some tribes on the shoreline, that were part of the Aro Confederacy. Aro Confederacy did not start in Nri kingdom but outside of it, when they started dealing with Europeans. The Aros rose to prominence around the time the slave trade began, its not a coincidence. It compromised of Ibibio, Efik, Annang, Ijaw, Urhobo and some people that are considered Igbo today. Some of these people were also sent into slavery for resisting the Aro Confederacy as well. People were not willingly going into slavery, there was counters to it. You could have a friend you do business with that joined Aro and he could trick you into being sent into slavery to show his loyalty to Eze Aro. Aro also created a shrine with an oracle and people would come to pray at the shrine and the priest would do say that the oracle is saying you need to go into slavery and they would seize them right there.
Also the Niger River was shared by different groups. I'm sure conducting business/trading with other groups along the Niger River and shores was tougher to do. Don't think that people didn't fight back, but without the Europeans weaponry it can get tougher, I know that some of the raids were led by Europeans, its the reason why they had maps of all Igbo towns by 1700. The book I posted earlier has the map and details it. You see once, you were able to get guns, it makes it easier to take raid villages for slaves.
I believe that Igbos (originally called Heebos by Euros) and Ghanaians as well were targeted because they were Hebrews and the Europeans, especially the British in all their craftiness identified the same people who built up Egypt as slaves, the Israelites. These groups were not dummies either, they were industrious and were skilled in all things. They didn't just work in the fields, they were skilled in multiple areas making them useful for building Amerikkka. The slave trade happened to us because were not obeying God's commandments and started worshipping idols and taking on heathen customs like our neighbors. The transatlantic slave trade fulfilled the prophecy by Moses that the children of Israel will be sent into captivity by slave ships if they did not obey the laws of God. Remember when he told them this, they had just got out of 400 years of slavery. We and our ancestors are to blame, because we disobeyed the LORD and he fulfilled this:
Egypt is spiritual term that means the house of bondage. Its no coincidence that this nation's capital has an obelisk and that a pyramid is on the back of the 1 dollar bill.
Washington monument is an obelisk, originating from Ancient Egypt. It is not a coincidence, its prophecy.
Even though im not usually down w hebrew Israelite craziness. But some info is right.
@Czar
Excellent post! You hit the nail right in the coffin. Like I said the Hamitic myth was to separate non-stereotypical looking Africans from other Africans. But also like you said; to claim every advanced civilization in Africa.
Also I watched the video you posted. I came to the conclusion that the Egyptian girls black friend is a straight up c00n and seems to subscribe to the "true negroid" nonsense.
1. "Black" is not biologically defined. You're either black or you're not. So if the Egyptian girl choses to consider himself black then she is black. I have met many Egyptians online that considered themselves black, like this one:
2. Even though today's Egyptians are heavily mixed, especially those in the North(lower Egypt). There are still Egyptians today that still carry significant number of African linkages:
There are still "black" Egyptians today in Egypt in the South:
The girl in the video seems like she is of Upper Egyptian descent, probably from Luxor. She could easily pass for a mulatto.
Like I said again her black friend and other people who hold the Hamitic theory nonsense subscribe to "true Negroid" nonsense that Africans/blacks most only look a certain way. When in fact Africans are said to be the most diverse people on the planet, with built-in diversity which has nothing to do with foreign admixture. Here's a quote that shatters there theory:
(S O Y Keita, R A Kittles, et al. "Conceptualizing human variation," Nature Genetics 36, S17 - S20 (2004)
Most diverse skin color:
-- Relethford JH.(2000). Human skin color diversity is highest in sub-Saharan African populations. Hum Biol. 2000 Oct;72(5):773-80.)
So to me I would consider that Egyptian girl black since she chooses to consider herself black.
According to her black friend, these Khoisans are not "black":
Due to having very light skin. Yet these girls are the most "African" on the continent with the most ancient lineages and with very little foreign influence, besides with other Africans(Bantu).
LOL I said the same thing in my mind.
