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This isn't really accurate.
We "greatly inspired" their first president.
No need for the passive aggressive quotation marks, and a word of advice: being passive aggressive and funny like that isn't praised in our culture.
It's very caccish.

1 - Take your emotions out of the table, and read again.

And to the bolded part, fair enough, but who told you that i am here to please or be praised by African Americans? You should take this out of your mind, that the fact that i am using this platform, that i was invited to, means that i came here to please or expect some type of praise from black americans. Saying this, doesn't mean that i came to disrespect, either.

My advice to you and a lot of people here, you guys should know the meaning of passive-aggressiveness. Because from what i have seen, people here just don't use it properly.

2 - Back to the topic, what is not really accurate? African Americans have DNA mixes from all of the west coastal Africa. But they always tend to be more connected to the people from Ghana. If you meet black americans who are open to travel to Africa, the majority of them, will always tell you that they want to visit Ghana. And in second place, Nigeria. So, MAYBE, just MAYBE, it is because there are cultural aspects that still stand and connect more Ghanaians to African Americans or African Americans to Ghanaians, than Gabonese, Angolans, Guineans, Malians and etc to African Americans.

For instance, there are many AAs with roots in the ancient kongo kingdom. But you are more likely to find a black american girl named Ashanti than N'zinga, and i have met AA girls named N'zinga, but not at the same rate as Ashanti.

Do you understand, that the fact that Kwame Nkruma was influenced by AA movements, doesn't change the possibility that what remains African inside of the AA culture, could be heavily rooted in Ghana? Do you understand that i am talking about a connection from slaves and slavery that was passed through centuries?

And that's why i tagged @Akan , because he is the one who posted before, evidence that Gullah people love rice, because they are descendants of enslaved people that were already experts in rice farming in West Africa.

If you still don't get it, just think it like this. If you were raised in a traditional African American family, let's say with Gullah roots. And you were raised to love gullah red rice, gullah stories, junkanoo and etc. PS: Gullah and Bahamians have a lot of similarities, so i believe that the Gullah have something close to junkanoo.

And years later, you find about Ghana, and you find out that Ghana is the country in Africa, that resembles the most, the education and culture that was passed to you.

What is that going to do to you? It is going to make you more comfortable around the ghanaian culture. You might have more yoruba dna in your family, but what still stands as African, is more ghanaian, even if your ghanaian percentage is very low...Ghanaian culture is going to be out of your comfort zone, but still the closest thing to your comfort zone...

Simple, maybe it is just that. That's my theory, to the fact that African Americans are more connected to Ghana than the rest of West Africa :sas1:
 

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I am not completely sure, and i have asked myself the same thing. But, i think it has more to do with the fact that most AA's can trace their DNA's to Ghana, and i also think, that what remains ''AFRICAN" inside of the black american culture, is heavily rooted in Ghana.

I think @Akan can give you a better explanation.

Actually in West Africa most AAs DNA comes back to Sierra Leone, Liberia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Gambia, Mali, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Burkina Faso and Senegal. The reason that most AAs have attached to Ghana is because Ghana is an English speaking nation and to Ghana's credit they have continuously reached out to AAs over the years to visit and or relocate to Ghana.
 

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How come we have to "be mindful" doing regular every day tasks. But when a land stealing cac, arab or finessing ass Chinese come and disrespect african locals 24/7/365 for literally centuries ya'll got no smoke for em? fukk outta here with this bullshyt.

Strawman. At no point did I say it was okay for other groups to disrespect and exploit Africans, nor is it something people are silent on.

trust me, your money isnt putting you in ANY position of power...

That's not correct. When you're in a position where people depend on you to feed and educate their family, you hold power over them.
 

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No, they don’t like us. And no, they don’t appreciate us moving there and appropriating their land. I wish her the best, but she better stay frosty :ufdup:


Ex-Detroit Activist & Sister Slain in Ghana

Jeannette Salters of Detroit got involved in activism in the early 1970s, and it was that activism that led her to discovering her roots and moving to Ghana, as well as changing her name to Mamelena Diop. Along with Diop, other Detroiters moved to Ghana to reclaim their roots.

Detroit is now mourning the loss of one of their own. Diop and her sister, Nzinga Janna, were both found murdered near their home in Ghana. According to Ghanian online news site, Diop was 75 and her sister was 60 at the time of death. So far, two men have been arrested in connection to the murders.

“I feel terrible about what happened,” said her son, Greg Salters of Detroit. “It’s a tragedy. Words can’t even explain how I feel about my mom being taken away from her home, murdered and put in a shallow grave 300 feet from her home.”

Salters family says she was killed because people wanted the land she acquired from the government in Ghana.

“Some locals decided they wanted to take the land from them,” he said. “My mom went to court over that” and won.


“I guess the locals decided they were going to take matters into their own hands,” he said. “And they decided to abduct and murder them.”

The sisters went missing last Tuesday, and while searching their home, blood was found, as well as the object used to kill them.

“She loved that place,” said Diop’s daughter Cheryl Salters. “She loved Africa. The people were nice.”

The family is trying to raise money through GoFundMe to ship the sisters’ remains back to Detroit.

“My mother was very articulate, very into herbs and holistic medicine, eating natural,” said Cheryl Salters.

Yes lets take an incident and paint the whole people in that way :dahell:
 

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I wouldn't propose anything like that. Just basic respect.

At the end of the day we have had to suffer as well. It is not our responsibility to give half of what we have, but in the spirit of moving forward it is important to treat one another with respect and compassion.

Who gave half of what they had? Because if that is your position then I propose to you that half of what you have was taken from those ancestors that were captured in the slave trade. So if you believe in your own thinking shouldn't their descendants be given the land back that was claimed by the ones that remained?

Btw, you sound like an ignorant hater.
 

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I always go Africa for christmas.Africa is beautiful man, the only problem with living in most African countries is the economy, the job salaries dont match the cost of living

If you get a good paying job or a good hustle, Africa is amazing:wow:
I always say this myself. Africa IS heaven, but our leaders work overtime to turn it into hell.
 

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Who gave half of what they had? Because if that is your position then I propose to you that half of what you have was taken from those ancestors that were captured in the slave trade. So if you believe in your own thinking shouldn't their descendants be given the land back that was claimed by the ones that remained?

Btw, you sound like an ignorant hater.

What you're saying isn't clear. It was put to me that those returning should build a nice house for the natives when returning home.

I'm saying that the people returning home do not have a responsibility to do that. Is that something you have a problem with?
 

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The coli ins't real life. After today I just will take everything with a grain of salt in the TLR when it comes to discussing black issues except for threads like this :wow:

Black people dont actually talk about race in TLR in 2018. Most these peopel arent black or are too new to know TLR is just for trolling.
 

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Actually in West Africa most AAs DNA comes back to Sierra Leone, Liberia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Gambia, Mali, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Burkina Faso and Senegal. The reason that most AAs have attached to Ghana is because Ghana is an English speaking nation and to Ghana's credit they have continuously reached out to AAs over the years to visit and or relocate to Ghana.

Yeah, i think that the last part of your comment explains a lot. But don't you think that African Americans retained a lot of cultural aspects that can be found in Ghana? If compared with the rest of the West Africa.
 

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Yeah, i think that the last part of your comment explains a lot. But don't you think that African Americans retained a lot of cultural aspects that can be found in Ghana? If compared with the rest of the West Africa.

No. Not that I have seen.

The only significant cultural aspects from West Africa that AAs seem to have retained were from the ethnic groups (Mende, Mandingos, Temne, Susu, Fulani, Wolof, etc) from the rice growing regions, notably Sierra Leone, Liberia, Guinea-Bissau, Senegal, Gambia and Guinea. That is who the Geechee Gullah people along the Geechee Gullah Corridor in the USA are largely descended from. However, AAs connections to the Mende people of Sierra Leone is the most obvious, which stands to reason because the English focused on purchasing them during slavery because of their knowledge of tidal rice growing and indigo. South Carolina planters paid a higher price to get the slaves that came from Sierra Leone, so it is no mystery as to why so many AAs come back to the Mende people in Sierra Leone.

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Gullah Geechee Cultural Heritage Corridor | Where Gullah Geechee Culture Lives
https://glc.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/bance Island in Sierra leone.pdf
https://glc.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/South Carolina Rice Plantations.pdf
https://gondobaymangafoundation.org/2007/03/sierra-leone-draws-americans-seeking-slave-roots/
Gullah, descendants of African slaves in South Carolina who haven't abandoned their cultural roots - Face2Face Africa

It is through the rice culture people of West Africa that the USA got most of its music, southern foods, some crops, folk stories (breh rabbit, tortise and the hare, row-row-row your boat, etc.), ring shout and Islam. So African Americans have always known where their ancestors were from and current day AAs DNA takes them right back to North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia were the Gullah Geechee are; but a lot of AAs renounced that shyt decades ago.






Oddly enough most slaves taken from Ghana and for that matter Nigeria ended up in the Caribbean and in South America, but for whatever reason Ghana focused heavily on AAs. Just to be clear there were some slaves taken from Ghana that were taken to the USA, but those were probably from Akan tribes like the Brong from Central Ghana or Mande tribes like Bissa or Dyula (although the Dyula are not really a tribe) and others from the Muslim North in Ghana. The people in Northern Ghana were likely taken as prisoners of war by the Dagomba people who waged war against them in order to pay tribute to the Ashanti; who had defeated the Dagomba in an earlier war.

Dagomba
 
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No. Not that I have seen.

The only significant cultural aspects from West Africa that AAs seem to have retained were from the ethnic groups (Mende, Mandingos, Temne, Susu, Fulani, Wolof, etc) from the rice growing regions, notably Sierra Leone, Liberia, Guinea-Bissau, Senegal, Gambia and Guinea. That is who the Geechee Gullah people along the Geechee Gullah Corridor in the USA are largely descended from. However, AAs connections to the Mende people of Sierra Leone is the most obvious, which stands to reason because the English focused on purchasing them during slavery because of their knowledge of tidal rice growing and indigo. South Carolina planters paid a higher price to get the slaves that came from Sierra Leone, so it is no mystery as to why so many AAs come back to the Mende people in Sierra Leone.

Slave_Auction_Ad.jpg


4Gullah_Geechee_Cultural_Heritage_Brochure_Background_Inside_CMYKupdated-copy.png


Gullah Geechee Cultural Heritage Corridor | Where Gullah Geechee Culture Lives
https://glc.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/bance Island in Sierra leone.pdf
https://glc.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/South Carolina Rice Plantations.pdf
https://gondobaymangafoundation.org/2007/03/sierra-leone-draws-americans-seeking-slave-roots/
Gullah, descendants of African slaves in South Carolina who haven't abandoned their cultural roots - Face2Face Africa

It is through the rice culture people of West Africa that the USA got most of its music, southern foods, some crops, folk stories (breh rabbit, tortise and the hare, row-row-row your boat, etc.), ring shout and Islam. So African Americans have always known where their ancestors were from and current day AAs DNA takes them right back to North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia were the Gullah Geechee are; but a lot of AAs renounced that shyt decades ago.






Oddly enough most slaves taken from Ghana and for that matter Nigeria ended up in the Caribbean and in South America, but for whatever reason Ghana focused heavily on AAs. Just to be clear there were some slaves taken from Ghana that were taken to the USA, but those were probably from Akan tribes like the Brong from Central Ghana or Mande tribes like Bissa or Dyula (although the Dyula are not really a tribe) and others from the Muslim North in Ghana. The people in Northern Ghana were likely taken as prisoners of war by the Dagomba people who waged war against them in order to pay tribute to the Ashanti; who had defeated the Dagomba in an earlier war.

Dagomba


Thanks. Well explained :thumbsup:
 
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